Eh Janam Tumhare Lekhe

Astroboy · #1 (**permalink**) 19-Feb-2009, 23:47 PM

At the request of respected NamJap ji,
this thread was started to keep a spot to
discuss how the Bhagats of
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj
understand the cycle of life and death.
aad0002

Quote:

"Bahut janam bicherie thei madho- eh janam tumerei lekhei"- (Someone- please give me the page number from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji).

Page 694, Line 8
ਬਹੁਤ ਜਨਮ ਬਿਛੁਰੇ ਥੇ ਮਾਧਉ ਇਹੁ ਜਨਮੁ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰੇ ਲੇਖੇ ॥
Bahuṯ janam bicẖẖure the māḏẖa▫o ih janam ṯumĥāre lekẖe.
For so many incarnations, I have been separated from You, Lord; I dedicate this life to You.
Devotee Ravidas - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

Quote:

When the opportunity arises, we will talk about mukti one day because a Sikh is not interested in eternity-mukti either.

Page 534, Line 4
ਰਾਜੁ ਨ ਚਾਹਉ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਚਾਹਉ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਚਰਨ ਕਮਲਾਰੇ ॥
Rāj na cẖāha▫o mukaṯ na cẖāha▫o man parīṯ cẖaran kamlāre.
I do not seek power, and I do not seek liberation. My mind is in love with Your Lotus Feet.
Guru Arjan Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

Tejwant Singh · #2 (**permalink**) 20-Feb-2009, 00:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namjap

Page 694, Line 8
ਬਹੁਤ ਜਨਮ ਬਿਛੁਰੇ ਥੇ ਮਾਧਉ ਇਹੁ ਜਨਮੁ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰੇ ਲੇਖੇ ॥
Bahuṯ janam bicẖẖure the māḏẖa▫o ih janam ṯumĥāre lekẖe.
For so many incarnations, I have been separated from You, Lord; I dedicate this life to You.
Devotee Ravidas - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

[size=-1]Page 534, Line 4
ਰਾਜੁ ਨ ਚਾਹਉ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਚਾਹਉ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਚਰਨ ਕਮਲਾਰੇ ॥
Rāj na cẖāha▫o mukaṯ na cẖāha▫o man parīṯ cẖaran kamlāre.
I do not seek power, and I do not seek liberation. My mind is in love with Your Lotus Feet.
Guru Arjan Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

Santokh ji,

Thanks for being my lifevest. I was drowning in the salty waters.

I would love the Gurbani lovers to share their views on the above 2 .

Regards

Tejwant Singh

Astroboy · #3 (**permalink**) 20-Feb-2009, 00:22 AM

You may open a new thread for that, here let's not deviate from Kabir Ji de Selok.

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar-project/24068-eh-janam-tumhare-lekhe.html
I have good news for you and everyone too. SPN is working hard to make available a downloadable software called Shabad Guru Explorer. It will be available soon.
This means, using it, you can search any shabad by typing/keying in the initials. For e.g. if you want to find ਬਹੁਤ ਜਨਮ ਬਿਛੁਰੇ ਥੇ ਮਾਧਉ ਇਹੁ ਜਨਮੁ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰੇ ਲੇਖੇ ॥ just key in : bjbtmejtl or even a portion of it like ejtl for ਇਹੁ ਜਨਮੁ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰੇ ਲੇਖੇ
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24068

I would like to request Aad Ji to consider moving post # 75, 76 and 77 to a new thread.

Narayanjot Kaur · #4 (**permalink**) 20-Feb-2009, 02:27 AM

Nam Jap ji

I think in Gurmat Vichaar it is OK to have a Punjabi thread title, instead of English. Everyone would either know the tuk or they would have the motivation to look it up. Is this OK as a title with you? Sat Nam.

Astroboy · #5 (**permalink**) 20-Feb-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Santokh ji,

Thanks for being my lifevest. I was drowning in the salty waters.

I would love the Gurbani lovers to share their views on the above 2 .

Regards

Tejwant Singh

OK.

ਕਾਰਨ ਕਵਨ ਅਬੋਲ ॥
Bhagat Ravidas asked the Lord for the reason why he was silent ? Was he expecting human language reply from the Lord who is Lord, God and Creator of the whole universe with its extensive life forms. Would God choose a particular fashion and style to speak with his Creatures?

Astroboy · #6 (**permalink**) 10-Apr-2009, 14:29 PM

JMHO, I think God speaks to all living creatures in the most basic language (sound current) which can be felt by inner senses (call it inner ears) and such sound can be that of insects during the night.

Do you hear God speak to you ?

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #7 (**permalink**) 10-Apr-2009, 16:43 PM

imho..God speaks through his creation.
Once Guru Gobind Singh Ji had a devout Sikh who visited him for "Darshan". He stood in front of GGS and Bowed...GGS told him..I will give you "Darshan" as you have requested. He was puzzled...what is Guru Ji talking baout..here I an front of Guru Ji, having his darshan...but he is saying..Go back to your village I will give you the Darshan you have been requesting in each prayer.. He was a Vaid..village doctor. and he returned to his village.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24068
One day he had a visit from a poor child in the village far away.... the poor child was in rags and he had been walking for many days to reach the doctor's village. His mother was very sick and lay dying. He wanted the doctor to follow him immediately. It was raining heavily and the night was stormy and cold. Just then a naukar of a rich man came and told the doctor his Master was sick and wanted him to come immediately. The doctor followed the naukar.
Many months later after waiting in vain for Guru Ji to come to his village and give him the darshan GGS promised....the doctor then travelled to Anandpur. When he reached Guru Jis darbar...he asked Guru Ji..I waited but you didnt come...But I did come...and I asked you to follow me..but in your midn you thought..its raining, this chidl is poor..so no hope of any thing...so you followed the rich mans naukar...and left ME crying..all my cries didnt reach your ehart..YOU DIDNT HEAR ME CALLING !!

SO YES..I have heard GURU Ji many times...the Creator too...BUT i havent heard any special Naad..or sounds or whispers - neither awake or sleeping or in my dreams...
Once I was in a shop to buy my duaghter new shoes for teh coming school year....and i saw a rather shabby tamil girl hanging around..the shop owner was trying to shoo her away..all she wanted was for soemone's old shoes..because a lot of children straight from school were with their parents trying on new shoes and leaving their old shoes in the rubbish bin...suddenly I heard Guru Ji loud and clear..He just wanted a pair of school shoes...just RM 12/= what a cheap bargain...I heard Guru Ji for just RM 12 !! Someone i know didnt hear a peep even after sponsoring a RM 2000 Akahnd Paath in the Gurdwara !! After that I was very careful and kept my ears peeled..for the whispers of Guru Ji...and YES i heard him many many times since....and for quite cheap financial outlay too..

lalihayer · #8 (**permalink**) 10-Apr-2009, 22:12 PM

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ਰਾਜੁ ਨ ਚਾਹਉ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਚਾਹਉ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਚਰਨ ਕਮਲਾਰੇ ॥
I do not seek power, and I do not seek liberation. My mind is in love with Your Lotus Feet.
Guru Arjan Dev

Such a selfless love! Not even desire for liberation!
This surely is a big step towards being one with Beloved.

Tejwant Singh · #9 (**permalink**) 10-Apr-2009, 22:22 PM

The time when anything that makes ourselves measure our chracter against all odds is the time when Ik Ong Kaar within echoes in our thoughts,whispers in our inner ears and makes us reason with the help of the tools we have obtained through Gurmat ideals, so that we are able to make the right decision based on Miri- Piri.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24068
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24068

Ik Ong Kaar is the inner voice activated Creative Energy.

Tejwant Singh

Tejwant Singh · #10 (**permalink**) 10-Apr-2009, 22:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lalihayer

Such a selfless love! Not even desire for liberation!
This surely is a big step towards being one with Beloved.

Lalihayer ji,

Guru Fateh.

It is amazing indeed. Like this, every moment becomes eternal- wrapped with mukti-.

Secondly come to think of it, why would one want to liberate- detach oneself from Ik Ong Kaar, the connection one has seeked and tried to be connected with for all his/her life?

Tejwant Singh