Told DAD that meat is NOT forbidden, and he gets ANGRY!

Singh12 · #1 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 02:14 AM

First of all im a 25 year old MONA that eats meat, and my dad has been case dhari AMRIT vegetarian for 20 years, who KEEPS TELLING ME TO STOP MEAT.

So yeah I told my father about the FOOLS WHO WRANGLE OVER FLESH ARTICLE (http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-s...ver-flesh.html) which basicly Proves that Meat is neither forbidden or recomended, and the same for Veg foods.

And my father got angry... and was hardly letting me finish sentences. Saying meat is wrong bla bla bla! It was like he was so fanatical about his current beleif, that I said to him i think you are getting angry (and also a victim of KROHD/rage) because you have thought your beleifs to be RIGHT for SO LONG (20 years) that if you find out otherwise now, your AHANKAAR does not want to risk any chance of believing it to be true.

He went further with scare mongering tactics like "You will see when you die and you are reincarnated as a animal etc".

Even when im telling him the quote from Nanak:
"The fools argue about flesh and meat, but they know nothing about meditation and spiritual wisdom.
What is called meat, and what is called green vegetables? What leads to sin?
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It was the habit of the gods to kill the rhinoceros, and make a feast of the burnt offering.
Those who renounce meat, and hold their noses when sitting near it, devour men at night.
They practice hypocrisy, and make a show before other people, but they do not understand anything about meditation or spiritual wisdom.
O Nanak, what can be said to the blind people? They cannot answer, or even understand what is said.
They alone are blind, who act blindly. They have no eyes in their hearts.
They are produced from the blood of their mothers and fathers, but they do not eat fish or meat."

And he keeps trying to change the meaning of the quote to fit his agenda (convert me to vegetarism. Where as im saying that neither DIET is recommended in the GGSJ)

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Also I WILL stop meat WHEN I WANT TO, and NOT because my DAD keeps telling me to, because of his silly history.

- For example when he was 24 years old (NON AMRIT) He slapped my mother for eating meat (BTW THEY BOTH ATE MEAT BEFORE THEY GOT MARRIED, BUT AFTER MY DAD TURNED RELIGOUS, AND THEN TRIED FORCING IT UPON MY MUM)
- He also started hitting my mum because she let her MUSLIM (non religious) friend in the house

BUT the GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI promotes PEACE and LOVE to ALL the HUMAN RACE, not ignorent predujices like this (when the muslim friend wasnt even fuckin religious)

ALSO GGSJ says:
"Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false."
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38652

So how can you treat a muslim with disrespect (falseness) when the MUSLIM is made from following the KORAN.
DAMN I HATE HYPOCREATES or HALF EDUCATED PEOPLE on SIKHI SHOVING THEIR BELIVES DOWN MY THROAT

Navdeep88 · #2 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 02:51 AM

1) This is a Blog Entry, not a Topic of Discussion.
2) No one is Perfect, You're a Grown man. Get over the Fact that Not everyone is Going to Aggree w/ you, that's Life. Rofl, He's Your Father, He's always going to be telling you SOMETHING, Trust Me, that's What Parents Do, & that's What they're Supposed to do!
3)Why are you Holding your Father to such a High Standard? He's a Human Being, Just like you. If you were Provided w/ a Safe, Loving Household to Grow up in, if you were Provided w/ a decent education, & Food, that's ALL your Father Had to do for you. That's It, that's where his Loyalty Towards you as a Child Ends b/c You are Now a Grown Man, & He Owes you Nothing.
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*On An Interesting Note: You're Profile Lists you as 22, & you say you're 25. Why Are you LYING?? Isn't THAT DISHONESTY??

Singh12 · #3 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 03:12 AM

1) :/
2) I was calm about the whole thing, he was the one who kept cutting of my sentences and started getting angry. Something or not, hes told me to stop eating meat so many times, he needs to understand that i wont stop meat.. by him imposing his Will onto me.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38652
3) Yes you are right. But Its just me pointing out what he was like at ~25 years old (women beater!), but the only things hes got to say to me is stop eating meat.. its such a broken record

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4) Its a forum, I dont ever put the time and effort in to get the birth date right on a forum, so couldnt care less about that.
So please get over it LOL motherlylove

Thanks for your input though, and which forum catogary do you recommend i post this, could a mod move it to a more suitable catagoary? thanks

Navdeep88 · #4 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Singh12

1) :/
2) I was calm about the whole thing, he was the one who kept cutting of my sentences and started getting angry. Something or not, hes told me to stop eating meat so many times, he needs to understand that i wont stop meat.. by him imposing his Will onto me.
3) Yes you are right. But Its just me pointing out what he was like at ~25 years old (women beater!), but the only things hes got to say to me is stop eating meat.. its such a broken record

4) Its a forum, I dont ever put the time and effort in to get the birth date right on a forum, so couldnt care less about that.
So please get over it LOL motherlylove

Thanks for your input though, and which forum catogary do you recommend i post this, could a mod move it to a more suitable catagoary? thanks

I suggest you Remove it b/c you Sound like a Brat, If @ 22/25 etc, you're Sitting @ HIS Table, Eating HIS Food, You Need to Get Over it Mah Brotha.

Singh12 · #5 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 04:02 AM

Maybe.

But I never bring meat home, I always eat it at takeaway.

And he also imposed his beliefs on my granddad, and after a while my granddad took amrit and stopped eating meat, but then relapsed and broke it and started drinking alcohol again etc, which I believe is because he felt forced to do amrit in the first place and did not make the decision from within, but merely from the outside.

what I'm saying is that I won't give up something if it's against my will, otherwise its pointless and goes no where because you are making a decision for an external person.

and my dad's basically told me I better start changing if I wanna live in his house... but because it's against what I want
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38652

maybe its best if I move out soon

I could just never tell my dad that i eat meat , but that's not me, I'm a man of truth

Luckysingh · #6 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 05:32 AM

Don't worry about it, just because he doesn't want to listen to your point of view.
Remember, there is no law or rule that is correct and standard for the meat issue.
It always comes down to personal belief- this is what you must remember, to tell someone that their life long belief is wrong is not a sikh approach, to make them understand is another matter. Guru Nanak never went around telling people their ritualistic beliefs were wrong did he ? NO, he showed them the way to wake them up and realise the understanding.

DO NOT KEEP INSULTING YOUR FATHER'S INTELLIGENCE by sputting forward your beliefs. You OR me are in no position to say who's right and who's wrong.
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I mean at 22/25 years old I kept trying to convince and tell my dad that I was a virgin.
He just wouldn't believe me and kept telling me that I was lying!!!
What could have I done to prove it ? Should I have bought my girlfriend home and asked him to verify and ask her???
In the end, did it matter if I really was or not ?? NO- It really didn't matter to him!!!
Just like you eat meat outside the house- fine, carry on, but don't insult him by trying to convince him that it is OK to have in his house.

Take it easy and show your love for family and mankind- and enjoy your quarter
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pounder outside.

Navdeep88 · #7 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Singh12

Maybe.

But I never bring meat home, I always eat it at takeaway.

And he also imposed his beliefs on my granddad, and after a while my granddad took amrit and stopped eating meat, but then relapsed and broke it and started drinking alcohol again etc, which I believe is because he felt forced to do amrit in the first place and did not make the decision from within, but merely from the outside.

what I'm saying is that I won't give up something if it's against my will, otherwise its pointless and goes no where because you are making a decision for an external person.

and my dad's basically told me I better start changing if I wanna live in his house... but because it's against what I want

maybe its best if I move out soon

I could just never tell my dad that i eat meat , but that's not me, I'm a man of truth

Oh, Boo-Hoo, Your Dad Inspired your Grandad to Stop Drinking. What a Crime!! Cry a River, Build a Bridge & Get over it. There are Worse things in Life, People have been Physically Raped, Abused etc. They've gone Hungry, w/out Shelter, & Worse.

harry haller · #8 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 12:14 PM

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DAMN I HATE HYPOCREATES or HALF EDUCATED PEOPLE on SIKHI SHOVING THEIR BELIVES DOWN MY THROAT

I think you should play him at his own game, learn as much as you can about Sikhi and try and bond using a love of something you both have an interest in, I don't think either of you sound particularly perfect

, but if you could both have an open mind, you may learn something

peacesignkaur

Singh12 · #9 (**permalink**) 13-Jun-2012, 18:46 PM

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Originally Posted by harry haller

I think you should play him at his own game, learn as much as you can about Sikhi and try and bond using a love of something you both have an interest in, I don't think either of you sound particularly perfect

, but if you could both have an open mind, you may learn something

peacesignkaur

Yeeh true.

And as for navdeep, you just sound like a very angry person

I hope you did not have a predujice against me as soon as you seen that I was a MONA & Meat eater