Is Sikhism A Pantheistic/Panentheistic Religion?

Narayanjot Kaur · #10 (**permalink**) 14-May-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pk70

It is a simple statement, doesn't need any elaboration

Oh Please do pk70 ji -- This can be a great discussion.

pk70 · #11 (**permalink**) 14-May-2009, 11:46 AM

To satisfy Bhagat Singh Ji, I have to search many Guru Shabdas, then a lot of references by others who are trying it to prove Sikhism as a Comostheism, then my examples from those posts how Gurus refute these small claims etc. So I feel it looks alright as it is. So I ask for forgiveness

Narayanjot Kaur · #12 (**permalink**) 14-May-2009, 11:52 AM

I tried

But I respect your decision pk70 ji

So here is something on that subject.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/christianity/25020-is-sikhism-a-pantheistic-panentheistic-religion.html

Cosmotheism - An all encompassing worldview for White Europeans around the globe. Cosmotheism is a religion which positively asserts there is an internal meaning and purpose in life and in the cosmos. There is an essential unity, or consciousness that binds all living beings and all of the inorganic cosmos, as one. And what our true identity is this: we are the cosmos, made self-aware and self-conscious by evolution. Our undeniable human purpose, is to know and to complete ourselves as conscious individuals, and also as a self-aware species, and thereby to co-evolve with the cosmos towards total and universal awareness, and towards the ever-higher perfection of consciousness and being. The best way to start understanding Cosmotheism more completely is to read the three Holy Books of Cosmotheism, which are The Path, On Living Things, and On Society. After this we have a list of suggested reading at The Library. Once you have taken these steps you are welcome to join us for discussion on the Cosmotheist forum. Cosmotheism is an idea that can not be defeated, it is the idea of life. And the progression of it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25020

Source; http://cosmotheism.net/

Narayanjot Kaur · #13 (**permalink**) 14-May-2009, 11:53 AM

Thread moved to Interfaith Dialogs

pk70 · #14 (**permalink**) 14-May-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by aad0002

I tried

But I respect your decision pk70 ji

So here is something on that subject.

Cosmotheism - An all encompassing worldview for White Europeans around the globe. Cosmotheism is a religion which positively asserts there is an internal meaning and purpose in life and in the cosmos. There is an essential unity, or consciousness that binds all living beings and all of the inorganic cosmos, as one. And what our true identity is this: we are the cosmos, made self-aware and self-conscious by evolution. Our undeniable human purpose, is to know and to complete ourselves as conscious individuals, and also as a self-aware species, and thereby to co-evolve with the cosmos towards total and universal awareness, and towards the ever-higher perfection of consciousness and being. The best way to start understanding Cosmotheism more completely is to read the three Holy Books of Cosmotheism, which are The Path, On Living Things, and On Society. After this we have a list of suggested reading at The Library. Once you have taken these steps you are welcome to join us for discussion on the Cosmotheist forum. Cosmotheism is an idea that can not be defeated, it is the idea of life. And the progression of it.

Source; http://cosmotheism.net/

aad Jio
A bundle of thanks, it is helpful.

BhagatSingh · #15 (**permalink**) 14-May-2009, 14:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aad0002

Bhagat ji

I think you mean - That is not disconfirming evidence against Sikhism being pantheistic. Just want to be sure I understand you. Anyway -- No the mool mantar is not "evidence" in the scientific sense of anything. The mool mantar is the foundation of all of the Shabad of the Guru that follows and that Sikhs adhere to. It is the fundamental belief of Sikhism. Or am I in the wrong forum?

i am saying that mool mantar does not show that SIkhism is not pantheistic.
um...It provides nothing to dismiss the claim that Sikhism is pantheistic. I hope that clarifes it.

wait, why did you say in "scientific sense"? What other sort of evidence is there?

Tejwant Singh · #16 (**permalink**) 14-May-2009, 21:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aad0002

I tried

But I respect your decision pk70 ji

So here is something on that subject.

Cosmotheism - An all encompassing worldview for White Europeans around the globe. Cosmotheism is a religion which positively asserts there is an internal meaning and purpose in life and in the cosmos. There is an essential unity, or consciousness that binds all living beings and all of the inorganic cosmos, as one. And what our true identity is this: we are the cosmos, made self-aware and self-conscious by evolution. Our undeniable human purpose, is to know and to complete ourselves as conscious individuals, and also as a self-aware species, and thereby to co-evolve with the cosmos towards total and universal awareness, and towards the ever-higher perfection of consciousness and being. The best way to start understanding Cosmotheism more completely is to read the three Holy Books of Cosmotheism, which are The Path, On Living Things, and On Society. After this we have a list of suggested reading at The Library. Once you have taken these steps you are welcome to join us for discussion on the Cosmotheist forum. Cosmotheism is an idea that can not be defeated, it is the idea of life. And the progression of it.

Source; http://cosmotheism.net/

Antonia ji,

I had heard of Cosmotheism before and I find it oxymoronic because of the name and White man's "selective pruning club" to grow and create likewise people has nothing to do with creating a cosmopolitan world, to the contrary.

Thanks for posting it.

Tejwant Singh

Narayanjot Kaur · #17 (**permalink**) 14-May-2009, 23:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VaheguruSeekr

Antonia ji,

I had heard of Cosmotheism before and I find it oxymoronic because of the name and White man's "selective pruning club" to grow and create likewise people has nothing to do with creating a cosmopolitan world, to the contrary.

Thanks for posting it.

Tejwant Singh

Tejwant ji

The notion that it is a "white" man's religion alone makes my hair stand on end. The web site is very cryptic. There are links that lead to strange statements. And also a kind of leveling of information. I think it is a budding cult == not sure why.

Tejwant Singh · #18 (**permalink**) 15-May-2009, 00:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aad0002

Tejwant ji

The notion that it is a "white" man's religion alone makes my hair stand on end. The web site is very cryptic. There are links that lead to strange statements. And also a kind of leveling of information. I think it is a budding cult == not sure why.

Antonia ji,

Guru Fateh.

In fact I met a family that belonged to Cosmotheism a few months in Vegas. They were all travelling through on a motorhome. All were blonde more like scandinavian looks. I got curious and checked it out on the internet and read about their growth as a community in a way of selective pruning. Then I realised that it is an ALL WHITE cult.

That is why I was a bit surprised when PK70 used the word Cosmotheism for Pantheism. Perhaps he was not aware of this cult.

Tejwant Singh