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<blockquote data-quote="Sherab" data-source="post: 68026" data-attributes="member: 4661"><p><strong>Re: Yogi Bajan and 3HO</strong></p><p></p><p>So, as for gurbani sources against the practices of yogi Bhajan.</p><p></p><p>First off I said - </p><p></p><p>" You see a banner of apparently "sikhs" using mudras ... in order to train and focus their mind? Is Naam not enough for them, or is there something lacking in Sikhism?"</p><p></p><p>And here is why I am perplexed. From Ang (page) 1348 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib (hereby SGGS):</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਭਗਉਤੀ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਮੁਦ੍ਰਾ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਮਨੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank">ਮੋਹਿਆ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank">ਮਾਇਆ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5" target="_blank">॥੧॥ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89" target="_blank">ਰਹਾਉ </a> ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000"></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">The sacred mudras - ritualistic hand gestures - are made, but the mind remains enticed by Maya. ||1||Pause||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">You can view the whole Shabad here:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1348&L=2&id=57613" target="_blank">Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 1348</a></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">If you read the full thing, it will make alot of sense.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Second, I said:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"</span></span></span></span></span>And after you read the first paragraph - you learn that he had a mission to spread "kundalini yoga and tantra". He never specifies what kind of tantra."</p><p></p><p>From Ang 196 of SGGS:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">All medicines and remedies, mantras and tantras are nothing more than ashes.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">Enshrine the Creator Lord within your heart. ||3||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">All the practices you could ever do with mantra, any form of yoga you could do, any form of tantric meditation or practice - WILL NOT lead you to God. the Naam will not enter your heart - you will be to distracted with outside ritual purity to even focus on the name of God within.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">Here is another shabad against use of mantras and yoga:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=477&L=1&id=21576" target="_blank">Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 477</a></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">Further on Ang 866 of SGGS, we read:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">My Tantra and Mantra is to meditate, to vibrate upon the Lord God.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">Source: <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=866&L=17&id=36899" target="_blank">Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 866</a></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">This is where most who practice mantras, yoga, and tantra would say here that Guru Arjan Dev is saying the practice of all of that is okay if you focus on God - however - It is rather saying that to vibrate on the Lord is HIGHER then tantra. In the next few lines we see:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">Illnesses and pains are dispelled, meditating on God.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">Mantras have many purposes. some of these is too cure disease. Some people use yoga to cure an affliction in their body. None of these works as well as alone, meditating on God.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px">Man bāʼncẖẖaṯ pūran fal pā*ė. ||3||</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">the fruits of mind's desires are fulfilled.<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">Next, I said:</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">" </span></span></span></span> But wait - Here we go. Here is what bothers me.</p><p></p><p>" "Kundalini yoga classes are a dynamic blend of postures, pranayam, mantra, music and meditation, which teach you the art of relaxation, self-healing and elevation." "</p><p></p><p>Let us look at what gurbani thinks about these.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">they perform worship services, wear ceremonial religious marks on their foreheads, and take ritual cleansing baths at sacred shrines of pilgrimage.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">They perform the inner cleansing practice with water and adopt the eighty-four Yogic postures; but still, they find no peace in any of these. ||2||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">Source:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=98&L=4&id=3907" target="_blank">Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 98</a></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">You cannot find peace in any Yogic postures, according to Gurbani. However, it does say:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">By His Mercy, I have met the Holy Saint.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">My mind and body have been cooled and soothed; I have been blessed with patience and composure.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">The Immortal Lord God has come to dwell within my heart. Nanak sings the songs of joy to the Lord. ||4||5||12||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">This verse is from Guru Arjan Dev himself - he had met the Holy Saint, God. The only way to find peace is to chant the Naam, and enshrine god in your heart - then any other methods of Yoga are fruitless.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Please read this whole shabad, it is useless to quote the whole thing here.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=208&L=5&id=8989" target="_blank">Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 208</a></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Yoga is useless if we do not enshrine love for God in our hearts, and stop relying on yogic methods.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In fact, Kabir even says:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK">In the cave of silence, dwell in your <strong><span style="color: #ab5555">Yogic posture</span></strong>; let the subjugation of desire be your spiritual path. ||1||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Source: <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=334&L=16&id=15331" target="_blank">Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 334</a></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I will add more also, later, as i compose my thoughts, with the grace of Waheguru.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sherab, post: 68026, member: 4661"] [b]Re: Yogi Bajan and 3HO[/b] So, as for gurbani sources against the practices of yogi Bhajan. First off I said - " You see a banner of apparently "sikhs" using mudras ... in order to train and focus their mind? Is Naam not enough for them, or is there something lacking in Sikhism?" And here is why I am perplexed. From Ang (page) 1348 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib (hereby SGGS): [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800000][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80"]ਭਗਉਤੀ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"]ਮੁਦ੍ਰਾ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"]ਮਨੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"]ਮੋਹਿਆ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"]ਮਾਇਆ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5"]॥੧॥ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89"]ਰਹਾਉ [/URL] ॥ [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]The sacred mudras - ritualistic hand gestures - are made, but the mind remains enticed by Maya. ||1||Pause|| [COLOR=Black][SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana]You can view the whole Shabad here: [url=http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1348&L=2&id=57613]Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 1348[/url] If you read the full thing, it will make alot of sense. Second, I said: "[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE]And after you read the first paragraph - you learn that he had a mission to spread "kundalini yoga and tantra". He never specifies what kind of tantra." From Ang 196 of SGGS: [SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]All medicines and remedies, mantras and tantras are nothing more than ashes. [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]Enshrine the Creator Lord within your heart. ||3|| [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=Black]All the practices you could ever do with mantra, any form of yoga you could do, any form of tantric meditation or practice - WILL NOT lead you to God. the Naam will not enter your heart - you will be to distracted with outside ritual purity to even focus on the name of God within. Here is another shabad against use of mantras and yoga: [url=http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=477&L=1&id=21576]Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 477[/url] Further on Ang 866 of SGGS, we read: [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]My Tantra and Mantra is to meditate, to vibrate upon the Lord God. [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=Black]Source: [url=http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=866&L=17&id=36899]Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 866[/url] This is where most who practice mantras, yoga, and tantra would say here that Guru Arjan Dev is saying the practice of all of that is okay if you focus on God - however - It is rather saying that to vibrate on the Lord is HIGHER then tantra. In the next few lines we see: [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]Illnesses and pains are dispelled, meditating on God. [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=Black]Mantras have many purposes. some of these is too cure disease. Some people use yoga to cure an affliction in their body. None of these works as well as alone, meditating on God. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1]Man bāʼncẖẖaṯ pūran fal pā*ė. ||3|| the fruits of mind's desires are fulfilled.[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=Black] Next, I said: " [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE] But wait - Here we go. Here is what bothers me. " "Kundalini yoga classes are a dynamic blend of postures, pranayam, mantra, music and meditation, which teach you the art of relaxation, self-healing and elevation." " Let us look at what gurbani thinks about these. [SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]they perform worship services, wear ceremonial religious marks on their foreheads, and take ritual cleansing baths at sacred shrines of pilgrimage. [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]They perform the inner cleansing practice with water and adopt the eighty-four Yogic postures; but still, they find no peace in any of these. ||2|| [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=Black]Source: [url=http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=98&L=4&id=3907]Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 98[/url] You cannot find peace in any Yogic postures, according to Gurbani. However, it does say: [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]By His Mercy, I have met the Holy Saint. [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]My mind and body have been cooled and soothed; I have been blessed with patience and composure. [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]The Immortal Lord God has come to dwell within my heart. Nanak sings the songs of joy to the Lord. ||4||5||12|| [COLOR=Black][SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana]This verse is from Guru Arjan Dev himself - he had met the Holy Saint, God. The only way to find peace is to chant the Naam, and enshrine god in your heart - then any other methods of Yoga are fruitless. Please read this whole shabad, it is useless to quote the whole thing here. [url=http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=208&L=5&id=8989]Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 208[/url] Yoga is useless if we do not enshrine love for God in our hearts, and stop relying on yogic methods. In fact, Kabir even says: [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=BLACK]In the cave of silence, dwell in your [B][COLOR=#ab5555]Yogic posture[/COLOR][/B]; let the subjugation of desire be your spiritual path. ||1|| [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2] Source: [url=http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=334&L=16&id=15331]Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 334[/url] I will add more also, later, as i compose my thoughts, with the grace of Waheguru. 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