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<blockquote data-quote="Siri Kamala" data-source="post: 138280" data-attributes="member: 13802"><p><strong>Re: Yogi Bajan and 3HO</strong></p><p></p><p>Hello Coetgan ji,</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Admittedly I couldn't see your face at the moment you typed that but... you're completely serious aren't you? You actually said that with a straight face?</p><p></p><p>Wait so... using that logic, serial killer Dennis Rader (more commonly known as BTK) had "a strong and mostly positive impact on the world" because hey -- sure, maybe he killed 10 people and tortured several animals, but he was a good husband and father, a hard worker, a regular church-goer, served as President of his Church Council, was a Cub Scout Leader, raised his son to be an Eagle Scout, and put his daughter through college.</p><p></p><p>What a great guy!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>*Style*? You think this is about his STYLE?</p><p></p><p>"Sexual assault" is not a "style." It's a crime.</p><p></p><p>"Bilking elderly people out of their life savings" to support your taste in fancy cars and expensive jewelry is not a "style." It's a <u>crime</u>.</p><p></p><p>It's probably a lot easier to be "tolerant of Yogi Bhajan's style" when he's not forcing himself on you sexually or sending your 9-year-old child off to India against your will or yelling at you for having the audacity to give voice to your opinion or clocking you across the face for the crime of being his wife.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, but no. This is not some obscure, esoteric moral code we're talking about that is only observed in the Hadza people living in a remote corner of central east Africa.</p><p></p><p>Rape is NEVER okay.</p><p></p><p>Beating your wife? NEVER okay.</p><p></p><p>Treating your followers as indentured servants and even slaves? NEVER okay.</p><p></p><p>Dividing otherwise happily married couples? NEVER okay.</p><p></p><p>Sending minor children to live on the other side of the world apart from their parents against the parents' wishes, though the parents are good parents and have no reason to be deprived of their children? NEVER okay.</p><p></p><p>Using one's power as a religious leader to mislead, manipulate, and control people? NEVER EVER okay.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, gosh -- lots. But we can start with just the things I've named there above for now. swordfight</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is my thought: Yogi Bhajan is like the chemical compound strychnine. In small and/or infrequent or highly filtered doses, it may appear to do you some good -- trace amounts of strychnine in human systems can act as a stimulant or a laxative. In any case, those trace amounts will not do you any long-term damage, but in large or unfiltered doses, or in doses that occur with great frequency, the risk of lasting harm increases dramatically.</p><p></p><p>So...really, your saying that he was the right teacher for anybody, in light of the harmful and egotistical behaviors he engaged in? That makes you an enabler of that harm. You are reinjuring everyone he has victimized when you become his apologist in this forum or any other. Is that really a role you're interested in playing? Especially for a criminal who was lucky enough to not get busted before he died?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The people who have been irreparably harmed by this charlatan. THAT is who's to say.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And there was no salesman more slick or, I daresay, sociopathic than Yogi Bhajan. Please. I respectfully request that you discontinue saying or doing anything that even comes close to sounding like you're making an excuse for the things this man did. It is an insult to everyone he has harmed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Siri Kamala, post: 138280, member: 13802"] [b]Re: Yogi Bajan and 3HO[/b] Hello Coetgan ji, Admittedly I couldn't see your face at the moment you typed that but... you're completely serious aren't you? You actually said that with a straight face? Wait so... using that logic, serial killer Dennis Rader (more commonly known as BTK) had "a strong and mostly positive impact on the world" because hey -- sure, maybe he killed 10 people and tortured several animals, but he was a good husband and father, a hard worker, a regular church-goer, served as President of his Church Council, was a Cub Scout Leader, raised his son to be an Eagle Scout, and put his daughter through college. What a great guy! *Style*? You think this is about his STYLE? "Sexual assault" is not a "style." It's a crime. "Bilking elderly people out of their life savings" to support your taste in fancy cars and expensive jewelry is not a "style." It's a [U]crime[/U]. It's probably a lot easier to be "tolerant of Yogi Bhajan's style" when he's not forcing himself on you sexually or sending your 9-year-old child off to India against your will or yelling at you for having the audacity to give voice to your opinion or clocking you across the face for the crime of being his wife. I'm sorry, but no. This is not some obscure, esoteric moral code we're talking about that is only observed in the Hadza people living in a remote corner of central east Africa. Rape is NEVER okay. Beating your wife? NEVER okay. Treating your followers as indentured servants and even slaves? NEVER okay. Dividing otherwise happily married couples? NEVER okay. Sending minor children to live on the other side of the world apart from their parents against the parents' wishes, though the parents are good parents and have no reason to be deprived of their children? NEVER okay. Using one's power as a religious leader to mislead, manipulate, and control people? NEVER EVER okay. Oh, gosh -- lots. But we can start with just the things I've named there above for now. swordfight Here is my thought: Yogi Bhajan is like the chemical compound strychnine. In small and/or infrequent or highly filtered doses, it may appear to do you some good -- trace amounts of strychnine in human systems can act as a stimulant or a laxative. In any case, those trace amounts will not do you any long-term damage, but in large or unfiltered doses, or in doses that occur with great frequency, the risk of lasting harm increases dramatically. So...really, your saying that he was the right teacher for anybody, in light of the harmful and egotistical behaviors he engaged in? That makes you an enabler of that harm. You are reinjuring everyone he has victimized when you become his apologist in this forum or any other. Is that really a role you're interested in playing? Especially for a criminal who was lucky enough to not get busted before he died? The people who have been irreparably harmed by this charlatan. THAT is who's to say. And there was no salesman more slick or, I daresay, sociopathic than Yogi Bhajan. Please. I respectfully request that you discontinue saying or doing anything that even comes close to sounding like you're making an excuse for the things this man did. It is an insult to everyone he has harmed. [/QUOTE]
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