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Why Number One Is For Two Guru's Vaak In Japji Sahib?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 12474" data-attributes="member: 189"><p><strong>Re: Why Number One is for Two Guru's Vaak in Japuji Sahib?</strong></p><p></p><p>Satkar Yog Balbir Singh jio,</p><p>Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.</p><p> </p><p>I dont see what is the "problem". This vaar has 22 Paurrees and sloks. The SLOKs are numbered correctly [1] and the following slok [2].</p><p> </p><p>Then Paurree followed by the next two sloks numbered accordingly. This system is followed scruplously through out the Vaar and the Next one too...and through out the entire Guru Granth ji sahib.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Here is what Prof sahib Singh Ji in His Guru Granth Ji darpan has to say about this:</p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniLipi'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue"><strong>vwr dI bxqr :—</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniLipi'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue"><strong>ieh ‘vwr’ gurU Amrdws jI dI rcnw hY, ies ivc 22 paVIAW hn, hryk paVI ivc pMj pMj qkW hn [ hryk pauVI dy nwl do do Slok hn; pauVI nM: 4 dy nwl pihlw Slok kbIr jI dw hY, bwkI dy swry Slok gurU Amrdws jI dy hn [</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniLipi'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue"><strong>kbIr jI dw ie`k Slok hoxw BI d`sdw hY ik ‘vwr’ qy ‘Slok’ ie`ko vkq nhIN ilKy gey ikauNik ‘vwr’ dy SlokW dI bxqr ivc iek-surqw nhIN rih geI [ jy iehnW dy ilKx dw vkq ie`k hI hMudw qW pauVI nM: 4 dy nwl isr& ie`ko slok nwh ilKdy [ ies pauVI dy SlokW ƒ pVH ky vyKo; gurU Amrdws jI ny ieh Slok aucwirAw BI kbIr jI dy Slok dy prQwie hI hY (vyKo, slok kbIr jI nM: 58) [ so, ieh dovyN Slok gurU Arjn swihb ny ies pauVI dy Bwv nwl imldy vyK ky drj kIqy hn pr ieh nhIN sI ho skdw ik jy gurU Amrdws jI swry Slok BI nwl hI aucwrdy qW ies pauVI nM: 4 ƒ ^wlI C`f dyNdy, so, swry hI Slok bIV iqAwr krn vyly gurU Arjn swihb ny drj kIqy [</strong></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniLipi'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue"><strong>not :—sRI krqwrpur vwlI ‘bIV’ ivc ies ‘vwr’ dI ‘bwxI’ dI ilKq nwloN ‘slok m: 3’ Awidk swry isr-lyK brIk, ilKq dy hn [ ies qoN AMdwzw ieh l`g skdw hY ik isr-lyKW vwsqy pihlW QW ^wlI rKI geI hY, iPr cMgI qrHW soD ky (ik slok TIk ausy hI gur-ivAkqI dy hn) ‘isr-lyK’ bwrIk klm nwl drj kIqy hn [ qwhIeyN ‘vwr’ dy mu`kx qy hwSIey qoN bwhr l&z ‘suDu’ iliKAw hY, Bwv ieh ik, Slok TIk isr-lyK vwly gur-ivAkqI dy hI hn; ieh g`l soD ky vyK leI hY [</strong></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #0000ff">The Sloks by Guru Amardass ji, Bhagt Kabir Ji are added in by Guru Arjun Ji sahib and certified SHUDH later on when totaling up them all at Vaar's end.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p>The Next Vaar Gujree Ki is also following the EXACT SAME numbering system.</p><p>Here is what Prof Sahib Singh ji has to say about this on Page 517 of His Guru Granth darpan.</p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniLipi'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue"><strong>vwr dI bxqr</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniLipi'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue"><strong>ieh ‘vwr’ gurU Arjn swihb dI rcI hoeI hY, ies ivc 21 ‘pauVIAW’ hn, hryk pauVI dy nwl do do Slok hn, swry SlokW dI igxqI 42 hY, qy ieh swry Slok BI gurU Arjn swihb dy hI hn [</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniLipi'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue"><strong>hryk ‘pauVI’ ivc A`T A`T qukW hn, isr& pauVI nM: 20 ivc pMj qukW hn [ pihlI qy vIhvIN pauVI C`f ky bwkI swrIAW pauVIAW dy nwl vrqy hoey Slok do do qukW dy hn (dUjI pauVI dw pihlw Slok BI cwr qukW dw hY), iehnW 37 SlokW ivc lihMdI bolI dy l&z izAwdw imldy hn [ SlokW dI sWvI vMf, ieko ijhI ‘do-qukI’ bnwvt, ieko ijhw mzmUn, swry hI Slok qy pauVIAW ieko hI gur-ivAkqI dIAW—iehnW g`lW qoN suqy hI ieh Anumwn lwieAw jw skdw hY ik ieh ‘vwr’ qy ies dy nwl vrqy hoey ‘Slok’ ieko hI vkq dy aucwry hoey hn [ ‘Awsw dI vwr’ ivc ieh g`l nhIN hY, iek qW EQy SlokW dy mzmUn v`Ko-v`Kry hn, dUjy, pauVIAW nwl vrqy SlokW dI vMf sWvI nhIN hY, qIjy, keI pauVIAW nwl gurU nwnk swihb dw Awpxw aucwirAw hoieAw koeI Slok BI nhIN hY </strong></span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">I hope this helps clear any doubts. The NUMBERING SYSTEM is UNIQUE and certified Shudh by guru Ji himself.</span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Please dont make me "sharminda"....who is this nimanna gursikh to make any one "intelligent" or not. That is Guru Ji's Purview and Department Ji.</span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Thanks</span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Jarnail Singh Gyani.</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 12474, member: 189"] [b]Re: Why Number One is for Two Guru's Vaak in Japuji Sahib?[/b] Satkar Yog Balbir Singh jio, Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh. I dont see what is the "problem". This vaar has 22 Paurrees and sloks. The SLOKs are numbered correctly [1] and the following slok [2]. Then Paurree followed by the next two sloks numbered accordingly. This system is followed scruplously through out the Vaar and the Next one too...and through out the entire Guru Granth ji sahib. Here is what Prof sahib Singh Ji in His Guru Granth Ji darpan has to say about this: [FONT=GurbaniLipi][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue][B]vwr dI bxqr :—[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=GurbaniLipi][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue][B]ieh ‘vwr’ gurU Amrdws jI dI rcnw hY, ies ivc 22 paVIAW hn, hryk paVI ivc pMj pMj qkW hn [ hryk pauVI dy nwl do do Slok hn; pauVI nM: 4 dy nwl pihlw Slok kbIr jI dw hY, bwkI dy swry Slok gurU Amrdws jI dy hn [[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=GurbaniLipi][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue][B]kbIr jI dw ie`k Slok hoxw BI d`sdw hY ik ‘vwr’ qy ‘Slok’ ie`ko vkq nhIN ilKy gey ikauNik ‘vwr’ dy SlokW dI bxqr ivc iek-surqw nhIN rih geI [ jy iehnW dy ilKx dw vkq ie`k hI hMudw qW pauVI nM: 4 dy nwl isr& ie`ko slok nwh ilKdy [ ies pauVI dy SlokW ƒ pVH ky vyKo; gurU Amrdws jI ny ieh Slok aucwirAw BI kbIr jI dy Slok dy prQwie hI hY (vyKo, slok kbIr jI nM: 58) [ so, ieh dovyN Slok gurU Arjn swihb ny ies pauVI dy Bwv nwl imldy vyK ky drj kIqy hn pr ieh nhIN sI ho skdw ik jy gurU Amrdws jI swry Slok BI nwl hI aucwrdy qW ies pauVI nM: 4 ƒ ^wlI C`f dyNdy, so, swry hI Slok bIV iqAwr krn vyly gurU Arjn swihb ny drj kIqy [[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=GurbaniLipi][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue][B]not :—sRI krqwrpur vwlI ‘bIV’ ivc ies ‘vwr’ dI ‘bwxI’ dI ilKq nwloN ‘slok m: 3’ Awidk swry isr-lyK brIk, ilKq dy hn [ ies qoN AMdwzw ieh l`g skdw hY ik isr-lyKW vwsqy pihlW QW ^wlI rKI geI hY, iPr cMgI qrHW soD ky (ik slok TIk ausy hI gur-ivAkqI dy hn) ‘isr-lyK’ bwrIk klm nwl drj kIqy hn [ qwhIeyN ‘vwr’ dy mu`kx qy hwSIey qoN bwhr l&z ‘suDu’ iliKAw hY, Bwv ieh ik, Slok TIk isr-lyK vwly gur-ivAkqI dy hI hn; ieh g`l soD ky vyK leI hY [[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]The Sloks by Guru Amardass ji, Bhagt Kabir Ji are added in by Guru Arjun Ji sahib and certified SHUDH later on when totaling up them all at Vaar's end.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] The Next Vaar Gujree Ki is also following the EXACT SAME numbering system. Here is what Prof Sahib Singh ji has to say about this on Page 517 of His Guru Granth darpan. [FONT=GurbaniLipi][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue][B]vwr dI bxqr[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=GurbaniLipi][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue][B]ieh ‘vwr’ gurU Arjn swihb dI rcI hoeI hY, ies ivc 21 ‘pauVIAW’ hn, hryk pauVI dy nwl do do Slok hn, swry SlokW dI igxqI 42 hY, qy ieh swry Slok BI gurU Arjn swihb dy hI hn [[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=GurbaniLipi][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue][B]hryk ‘pauVI’ ivc A`T A`T qukW hn, isr& pauVI nM: 20 ivc pMj qukW hn [ pihlI qy vIhvIN pauVI C`f ky bwkI swrIAW pauVIAW dy nwl vrqy hoey Slok do do qukW dy hn (dUjI pauVI dw pihlw Slok BI cwr qukW dw hY), iehnW 37 SlokW ivc lihMdI bolI dy l&z izAwdw imldy hn [ SlokW dI sWvI vMf, ieko ijhI ‘do-qukI’ bnwvt, ieko ijhw mzmUn, swry hI Slok qy pauVIAW ieko hI gur-ivAkqI dIAW—iehnW g`lW qoN suqy hI ieh Anumwn lwieAw jw skdw hY ik ieh ‘vwr’ qy ies dy nwl vrqy hoey ‘Slok’ ieko hI vkq dy aucwry hoey hn [ ‘Awsw dI vwr’ ivc ieh g`l nhIN hY, iek qW EQy SlokW dy mzmUn v`Ko-v`Kry hn, dUjy, pauVIAW nwl vrqy SlokW dI vMf sWvI nhIN hY, qIjy, keI pauVIAW nwl gurU nwnk swihb dw Awpxw aucwirAw hoieAw koeI Slok BI nhIN hY [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]I hope this helps clear any doubts. The NUMBERING SYSTEM is UNIQUE and certified Shudh by guru Ji himself.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Please dont make me "sharminda"....who is this nimanna gursikh to make any one "intelligent" or not. That is Guru Ji's Purview and Department Ji.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Thanks[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Jarnail Singh Gyani.[/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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