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<blockquote data-quote="Taranjeet singh" data-source="post: 194046" data-attributes="member: 10049"><p>It would be better if we find the meaning of related terms i.e sadh, sangat and Satsang’. These are given below.</p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">1.ਸਾਧ=</span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">ਸਾਧੂ, ਸੰਤ, ਸੰਤ ਜਨ, ਭਗਤ ਜਨ, ਗੁਰਮੁਖ, ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਬੰਦੇ, ਉਹ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਜਿਸ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਸਾਧਿਆ ਹੈ, ਜਿਸ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਮਨ ਨੂੰ ਵੱਸ ਵਿਚ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ, ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਸੇਵਕ। ਹੇ ਸਾਧੂ! ਸੱਧਰ, ਸਿੱਕ, ਤਾਂਘ। ਉਦਾਹਰਣ: ਅੰਚਲੁ ਗਹਿ ਕੈ ਸਾਧ ਕਾ ਤਰਣਾ ਇਹੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ॥ {ਗਉ ੫, ੧੭੨*, ੨:੧ (218)}। </span> </p><p><strong>2.Sangat=</strong></p><p>(noun) Society, company, party, union, league, association. (2) Friendship, connection.</p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">3. ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ=</span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">ਸਤ ਸੰਗ ਵਿੱਚ/ਨਾਲ, ਸੰਤ ਨਾਲ, ਸੱਚੀ ਸੰਗਤ ਦੁਆਰਾ/ਵਿੱਚ। ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤ। ਉਦਾਹਰਣ: ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੀ ਜਾਣੀਐ। ਜਿਥੈ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੀਐ॥ {ਸਿਰੀ ੧, ਅਸ ੨੮, ੫:੧;੨ (72)}। ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਮਹਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਹਰਿ ਉਪਜੈ ਜਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਸੁਭਾਏ॥ {ਸਿਰੀ ੩, ਅਸ ੨੨, ੭:੧ (67)}। ਧਨੁ ਧੁੰਨ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਜਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਮਿਲਿ ਜਨ</span></p><p></p><p>On the basis of above ‘sadh sangat’ would imply the company/society of Sadhu/Saint or Gurmukh. If I refer to Guru Granth Sahib ji I do not get a ‘tuk’ or shabd that seems to contain the definition of ‘Gurmukh’ or ‘sadh sangat’. May be you have come across some shabad that contains the definitional aspect: Kindly share.</p><p></p><p>The meaning of ‘satsang’ includes ‘sadh sangat’. These terms, in my opinion, may be used interchangeably in the present context. Precise question that bothers: would every one visiting Gurudwara be within the purview of ‘sadh sangat’. People have made Gurudwaras as rendezvous for discussing business or office. Some lack the basic etiquettes to be observed at the Gurudwara. Other category of the sangat may be those who really come to Gurudwara for listening to keertan or for doing Path in congregation. But- Does it make them Saint/sadh? A ‘saint’/sant is a term that has been assigned very high quality of Spirituality and so should be ‘sat sangat’.</p><p></p><p>I am reminded of a Tuk that Gyani Maskeen ji used often in his discourses: <em><strong>Know that to be satsangat where only one Naam is the subject matter/ discussed/contemplated/recited/explained. </strong></em></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੀ ਜਾਣੀਐ। ਜਿਥੈ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੀਐ॥ {ਸਿਰੀ ੧, ਅਸ ੨੮, ੫:੧;੨ (72)}</span></p><p></p><p>This clarifies the meaning of ‘sat sangat’ and, therefore’ sadh sangat’.</p><p>Thus the outer periphery of the term is determined and fixed for the limited purpose of this definition of ‘sadh sangat’. </p><p></p><p>We return home from Gurudwara as if we had met some friends and have come back doubting whether I was really in the company of holy or was it the congregation of persons like me. In case it was so, it shall not qualify for ‘sat sangat’/’sadh sangat.’ </p><p></p><p>I stopped going to Gurudwara and my visits to Gurudwara are now on the days that my wife decides as per her convenience. Her purpose is to see some friends whom we do not visit due to her busy schedule.</p><p></p><p><strong>It makes me conclude that there cannot be better saint/sadh than our Living Guru.[Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji].</strong> That for me is the meaning of ‘sadh sangat’ as stated above and is in consonance with the poster had stated. </p><p>The company of ‘sadh sangat’ is limited to once a week or sometimes once a month when I am in the company of my Living Guru at Local Gurudwara.</p><p></p><p>May be you have better answer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Taranjeet singh, post: 194046, member: 10049"] It would be better if we find the meaning of related terms i.e sadh, sangat and Satsang’. These are given below. [B][SIZE="3"]1.ਸਾਧ=[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE="3"]ਸਾਧੂ, ਸੰਤ, ਸੰਤ ਜਨ, ਭਗਤ ਜਨ, ਗੁਰਮੁਖ, ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਬੰਦੇ, ਉਹ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਜਿਸ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਸਾਧਿਆ ਹੈ, ਜਿਸ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਮਨ ਨੂੰ ਵੱਸ ਵਿਚ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ, ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਸੇਵਕ। ਹੇ ਸਾਧੂ! ਸੱਧਰ, ਸਿੱਕ, ਤਾਂਘ। ਉਦਾਹਰਣ: ਅੰਚਲੁ ਗਹਿ ਕੈ ਸਾਧ ਕਾ ਤਰਣਾ ਇਹੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ॥ {ਗਉ ੫, ੧੭੨*, ੨:੧ (218)}। [/SIZE] [B]2.Sangat=[/B] (noun) Society, company, party, union, league, association. (2) Friendship, connection. [B][SIZE="3"]3. ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ=[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE="3"]ਸਤ ਸੰਗ ਵਿੱਚ/ਨਾਲ, ਸੰਤ ਨਾਲ, ਸੱਚੀ ਸੰਗਤ ਦੁਆਰਾ/ਵਿੱਚ। ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤ। ਉਦਾਹਰਣ: ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੀ ਜਾਣੀਐ। ਜਿਥੈ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੀਐ॥ {ਸਿਰੀ ੧, ਅਸ ੨੮, ੫:੧;੨ (72)}। ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਮਹਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਹਰਿ ਉਪਜੈ ਜਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਸੁਭਾਏ॥ {ਸਿਰੀ ੩, ਅਸ ੨੨, ੭:੧ (67)}। ਧਨੁ ਧੁੰਨ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਜਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਮਿਲਿ ਜਨ[/SIZE] On the basis of above ‘sadh sangat’ would imply the company/society of Sadhu/Saint or Gurmukh. If I refer to Guru Granth Sahib ji I do not get a ‘tuk’ or shabd that seems to contain the definition of ‘Gurmukh’ or ‘sadh sangat’. May be you have come across some shabad that contains the definitional aspect: Kindly share. The meaning of ‘satsang’ includes ‘sadh sangat’. These terms, in my opinion, may be used interchangeably in the present context. Precise question that bothers: would every one visiting Gurudwara be within the purview of ‘sadh sangat’. People have made Gurudwaras as rendezvous for discussing business or office. Some lack the basic etiquettes to be observed at the Gurudwara. Other category of the sangat may be those who really come to Gurudwara for listening to keertan or for doing Path in congregation. But- Does it make them Saint/sadh? A ‘saint’/sant is a term that has been assigned very high quality of Spirituality and so should be ‘sat sangat’. I am reminded of a Tuk that Gyani Maskeen ji used often in his discourses: [I][B]Know that to be satsangat where only one Naam is the subject matter/ discussed/contemplated/recited/explained. [/B][/I] [SIZE="3"]ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੀ ਜਾਣੀਐ। ਜਿਥੈ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੀਐ॥ {ਸਿਰੀ ੧, ਅਸ ੨੮, ੫:੧;੨ (72)}[/SIZE] This clarifies the meaning of ‘sat sangat’ and, therefore’ sadh sangat’. Thus the outer periphery of the term is determined and fixed for the limited purpose of this definition of ‘sadh sangat’. We return home from Gurudwara as if we had met some friends and have come back doubting whether I was really in the company of holy or was it the congregation of persons like me. In case it was so, it shall not qualify for ‘sat sangat’/’sadh sangat.’ I stopped going to Gurudwara and my visits to Gurudwara are now on the days that my wife decides as per her convenience. Her purpose is to see some friends whom we do not visit due to her busy schedule. [B]It makes me conclude that there cannot be better saint/sadh than our Living Guru.[Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji].[/B] That for me is the meaning of ‘sadh sangat’ as stated above and is in consonance with the poster had stated. The company of ‘sadh sangat’ is limited to once a week or sometimes once a month when I am in the company of my Living Guru at Local Gurudwara. May be you have better answer. [/QUOTE]
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