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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="palaingtha" data-source="post: 170715" data-attributes="member: 18418"><p><strong>Re: Where are have all the true Sikhs gone</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reply by Palaingtha to S. Jarnail Singh Ji's reply to my comments.</p><p> </p><p>I inadvertently typed AWARD instead of REWARD. I am of the opinion that what is honestly reasonable is good enough. When you say that the Manja prepared by a local carpenter who made a better Manja than factory manufactured Manjas for which you paid double the price of Factory made. The price you paid is reasonable. The carpenter and your goodself seem to be very satisfied.This is fair trade. The carpenter is not expecting more than what he is getting.</p><p>Regarding the Sikhs going to Muslim Graves and Hindu Mandirs and doing all such things that are not acceptable in Sikhism, I will call them fragile Sikhs. They have no moral strength and can be easily molded from their chosen/by birth religion to any other and other. Yet they are still Sikhs. You may say their belief in Sikhism is not strong.While those who do not believe in Sikhism are not Sikhs. It is our weakness our Sikh brothers are going astray and for this state of affairs our leadership/religious personalities are to be blamed.</p><p>Allow me to discuss two (of many) instances:-</p><p>1) Our Head Granthi at Darbar Sahib about four five months back recited REHRAS SAHIB as if were reading Poetry in his solitude. Now he has been corrected. Still he falls again like poetry reciting. In Bhupinder Singh Nagar, Delhi,(not a posh colony), there is a small colony Gurdwara and the Bhai Sahib, a young man of about 30, recites REHRAS SAHIB very accurately.</p><p>2) A Sikh comes along on his car and stops by a Peeple Tree under which there is a tomb like structure. He stops his car and goes to the tree and with folded hands preys facing towards tomb-like structure. Now this Tomb like structure is nothing but a small structure made by one whose land had been acquired by the Govt. and he wanted to hold this place as his and he built a tomb like structure. It was not a tomb. This Sardar was very fragile Sikh because he succumbed to believe that the thing is SAVIOUR.</p><p>I think he has not been brought up in True Sikh family and also was never in near proximity of true Sikh religious practices.</p><p>I do agree with you that many of the so called Sikhs having Sikh appearance do not have an iota of their religion and such Sikhs go to Mazars, Hindu Mandirs, practice Hindu Karam Kand and believe the "RAM" mentioned in GGS is Ram Chander of Ramayana. Ignorant people. </p><p>Kuldip Singh Lamba</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="palaingtha, post: 170715, member: 18418"] [b]Re: Where are have all the true Sikhs gone[/b] Reply by Palaingtha to S. Jarnail Singh Ji's reply to my comments. I inadvertently typed AWARD instead of REWARD. I am of the opinion that what is honestly reasonable is good enough. When you say that the Manja prepared by a local carpenter who made a better Manja than factory manufactured Manjas for which you paid double the price of Factory made. The price you paid is reasonable. The carpenter and your goodself seem to be very satisfied.This is fair trade. The carpenter is not expecting more than what he is getting. Regarding the Sikhs going to Muslim Graves and Hindu Mandirs and doing all such things that are not acceptable in Sikhism, I will call them fragile Sikhs. They have no moral strength and can be easily molded from their chosen/by birth religion to any other and other. Yet they are still Sikhs. You may say their belief in Sikhism is not strong.While those who do not believe in Sikhism are not Sikhs. It is our weakness our Sikh brothers are going astray and for this state of affairs our leadership/religious personalities are to be blamed. Allow me to discuss two (of many) instances:- 1) Our Head Granthi at Darbar Sahib about four five months back recited REHRAS SAHIB as if were reading Poetry in his solitude. Now he has been corrected. Still he falls again like poetry reciting. In Bhupinder Singh Nagar, Delhi,(not a posh colony), there is a small colony Gurdwara and the Bhai Sahib, a young man of about 30, recites REHRAS SAHIB very accurately. 2) A Sikh comes along on his car and stops by a Peeple Tree under which there is a tomb like structure. He stops his car and goes to the tree and with folded hands preys facing towards tomb-like structure. Now this Tomb like structure is nothing but a small structure made by one whose land had been acquired by the Govt. and he wanted to hold this place as his and he built a tomb like structure. It was not a tomb. This Sardar was very fragile Sikh because he succumbed to believe that the thing is SAVIOUR. I think he has not been brought up in True Sikh family and also was never in near proximity of true Sikh religious practices. I do agree with you that many of the so called Sikhs having Sikh appearance do not have an iota of their religion and such Sikhs go to Mazars, Hindu Mandirs, practice Hindu Karam Kand and believe the "RAM" mentioned in GGS is Ram Chander of Ramayana. Ignorant people. Kuldip Singh Lamba [/QUOTE]
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