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<blockquote data-quote="Luckysingh" data-source="post: 197530" data-attributes="member: 16886"><p><span style="color: darkred">Please explain HOW and Where it is saying to NOT still your mind ??</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Please show me where in the full shabad it says the above?</span></p><p><span style="color: #8b0000">I will kindly help you here and lay out the essentials.</span></p><p><span style="color: #8b0000">You can by all means point out where I am wrong and going against gurbani, because I'm gonna tell you where I think so !</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(139, 0, 0)"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 15px">ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਸਕਤੀ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਸੀਉ ॥ </span></span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 15px">Ih man sakṯī ih man sī▫o.</span></span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(139, 0, 0)"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 15px">This mind is Shakti; this mind is Shiva.</span></span></em> </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(139, 0, 0)"><span style="font-size: 15px">in rest of gurbani, shiva is reference to matter/the sargun.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><span style="font-size: 15px">Shakti is reference to consciousness/power/nirgun manifestation.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><span style="font-size: 15px">However, saying that Mind is BOTH shiva and shakti, yet we can't see this Mind physically.... then How can that be ??.... how can you say Shiva ???</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(139, 0, 0)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Guruji... nicely answers in the next line which you have sadly taken in the completely wrong direction......</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਚ ਤਤ ਕੋ ਜੀਉ ॥</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Ih man pancẖ ṯaṯ ko jī▫o. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">This mind is the life of the five elements.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(139, 0, 0)"><span style="font-size: 15px">So, he answers and says this.. But it is a much deeper and extensive answer and completly no where near to your interpretation.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><span style="font-size: 15px">Summing briefly... ALL Physical creation was created from 5 elements.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><span style="font-size: 15px">But Gurbani also says there is the nirgun/formless and subtle/sukam creations which we can't see like the Mind within us.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><span style="font-size: 15px">But what are all these nirgun and subtle manifestations made of in order to survive in maya ???</span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><span style="font-size: 15px">ANSwer-.. They still have the subtle forms of 5 elements.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(139, 0, 0)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Gurbani talks quite clearly about these as well.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(139, 0, 0)"><span style="font-size: 15px">So, this particular line is actually saying.''The Mind is also the life of these 5 elements whilst it sustains itself in maya creation''</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 10px"> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਲੇ ਜਉ ਉਨਮਨਿ ਰਹੈ ॥ </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Ih man le ja▫o unman rahai.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">When this mind is channeled, and guided to enlightenment, </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">ਤਉ ਤੀਨਿ ਲੋਕ ਕੀ ਬਾਤੈ ਕਹੈ ॥੩੩॥</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Ŧa▫o ṯīn lok kī bāṯai kahai. ||33|| </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">it can describe the secrets of the three worlds. ||33|| </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>ਜੋਰੁ ਨ ਰਾਜਿ ਮਾਲਿ ਮਨਿ ਸੋਰੁ ॥</p><p>Jor na rāj māl man sor.</p><p>No power to rule, with wealth and occult mental powers.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">It is saying nothing about ''mind cannot be be stilled''</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><em>'Man sor</em>'' is using your mind to do the talking or make the noise,-which is why translation says <em>'occult mental powers'</em>..... as that is what these mind manipulator ridi sidi occults do.</span></p><p><span style="color: #8b0000">Please elaborate and explain if I have missed or can't see something ?</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Please explain how do you <u>replace chattering, </u>without eradicating the thoughts ?</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Gurbani says in a few places that the Mind is like a BIRD and it will just wander in 10 directions, This same wandering is your mind going through all it's internal chitter chatter.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">The ONLY way to stop the wandering is what Gurbani itself says <em>'mann nu takhona' </em>or 'Still the Mind'</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Like yourself, I shall quote the 1-liner references here but only to show you so that you may quite freely pick and choose any one to discuss further......(these are references to discuss further and prove me wrong!)</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">I have not had the time myself to look at them in depth, BUT please, please... enlighten me with any one that you find that has some message that only the '<em>Sakat' or faithless cynic </em>STILLS the Mind.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">OR that one is Manmukh compared to gurmukh who Stills Mind.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">OR even, any one that has the message that you gave above</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Page 170, Line 19</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਇਹੁ ਮਨੂਆ ਖਿਨੁ ਨ ਟਿਕੈ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗੀ ਦਹ ਦਹ ਦਿਸਿ ਚਲਿ ਚਲਿ ਹਾਢੇ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Ih manū▫ā kẖin na tikai baho rangī ḏah ḏah ḏis cẖal cẖal hādẖe.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">This mind does not hold still, even for an instant. Distracted by all sorts of distractions, it wanders around aimlessly in the ten directions</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Page 232, </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਧਾਵਤੁ ਰਾਖੈ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਏ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Ḏẖāvaṯ rākẖai ṯẖāk rahā▫e.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">He controls, and restrains, and holds still the wandering mind</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Page 656, Line 9</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਸੰਤਹੁ ਮਨ ਪਵਨੈ ਸੁਖੁ ਬਨਿਆ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Sanṯahu man pavnai sukẖ bani▫ā.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">O Saints, my windy mind has now become peaceful and still</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Page 789, Line 12</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਦਹ ਦਿਸ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਧਾਵਦਾ ਗੁਰਿ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Ḏah ḏis ih man ḏẖāvḏā gur ṯẖāk rahā▫i▫ā.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">The mind runs around in the ten directions; the Guru holds it still</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Page 1022, Line 17</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਧਾਵਤ ਰਾਖੇ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Ḏẖāvaṯ rākẖe ṯẖāk rahā▫i▫ā.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">He quiets and holds his wandering mind still</span></p><p> <span style="color: darkred"></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Page 1068, Line 8</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਰੈ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਰੇ ਹਉਮੈ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥੫॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Gur kai sabaḏ marai man māre ha▫umai jā▫e samā▫i▫ā. ||5||</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">He dies in the Word of the Guru's Shabad, and conquers his mind; stilling his egotism, he merges in the Lord. ||5||</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">I thought it was forum rules to not give your own interpretation without full shabad.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Your gurmukhi and punjabi is way more advanced than my self taught efforts, but I cannot in the world see how you make the statement above ?</span></p><p><span style="color: #8b0000">very poor 'made in china' quality !!!!!!</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">I will save you some effort and give the shabad below.....</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Again, show me <u>how Guruji is calling stilling the Mind useless here ?</u></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਗ੍ਰਿਹਿ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਜੋ ਰਹੈ ॥ </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Gur kai garihi sevak jo rahai. </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">That selfless servant, who lives in the Guru's household, </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਆਗਿਆ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਸਹੈ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Gur kī āgi▫ā man mėh sahai.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">is to obey the Guru's Commands with all his mind. </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਆਪਸ ਕਉ ਕਰਿ ਕਛੁ ਨ ਜਨਾਵੈ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Āpas ka▫o kar kacẖẖ na janāvai.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">He is not to call attention to himself in any way. </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਸਦ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Har har nām riḏai saḏ ḏẖi▫āvai.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">He is to meditate constantly within his heart on the Name of the Lord. </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><strong>ਮਨੁ ਬੇਚੈ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਪਾਸਿ ॥</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><strong>Man becẖai saṯgur kai pās.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"><strong>One who sells his mind to the True Guru -</strong> </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਤਿਸੁ ਸੇਵਕ ਕੇ ਕਾਰਜ ਰਾਸਿ ॥ </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Ŧis sevak ke kāraj rās.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">that humble servant's affairs are resolved.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਤ ਹੋਇ ਨਿਹਕਾਮੀ ॥ </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Sevā karaṯ ho▫e nihkāmī. </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">One who performs selfless service, without thought of reward, </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਤਿਸ ਕਉ ਹੋਤ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਸੁਆਮੀ ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Ŧis ka▫o hoṯ parāpaṯ su▫āmī.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">shall attain his Lord and Master. </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਅਪਨੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਜਿਸੁ ਆਪਿ ਕਰੇਇ ॥ </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Apnī kirpā jis āp kare▫i.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">He Himself grants His Grace; </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">ਨਾਨਕ ਸੋ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਮਤਿ ਲੇਇ ॥੨॥</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Nānak so sevak gur kī maṯ le▫e. ||2|| </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">O Nanak, that selfless servant lives the Guru's Teachings. ||2|| </span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkred">Does selling or offering your Mind mean you must never still it ?</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred">How do you sacrifice and devote your Mind toward satguru, keeping in Mind that you have dozens of thoughts running through and He knows every single one of them ??</span></p><p><span style="color: darkred"></span></p><p>All my lowly knowledge and ignorance is telling me is that your interpretations are totally fabricated for your own personal use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Luckysingh, post: 197530, member: 16886"] [COLOR=darkred]Please explain HOW and Where it is saying to NOT still your mind ??[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Please show me where in the full shabad it says the above?[/COLOR] [COLOR=#8b0000]I will kindly help you here and lay out the essentials. You can by all means point out where I am wrong and going against gurbani, because I'm gonna tell you where I think so ![/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(139, 0, 0)][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=4]ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਸਕਤੀ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਸੀਉ ॥ [/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=4]Ih man sakṯī ih man sī▫o.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(139, 0, 0)][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=4]This mind is Shakti; this mind is Shiva.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I] [/COLOR] [SIZE=4][/SIZE] [COLOR=rgb(139, 0, 0)][SIZE=4]in rest of gurbani, shiva is reference to matter/the sargun.[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred][SIZE=4]Shakti is reference to consciousness/power/nirgun manifestation. However, saying that Mind is BOTH shiva and shakti, yet we can't see this Mind physically.... then How can that be ??.... how can you say Shiva ???[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(139, 0, 0)][SIZE=4]Guruji... nicely answers in the next line which you have sadly taken in the completely wrong direction......[/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE=4] ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਚ ਤਤ ਕੋ ਜੀਉ ॥ Ih man pancẖ ṯaṯ ko jī▫o. This mind is the life of the five elements. [/SIZE] [COLOR=rgb(139, 0, 0)][SIZE=4]So, he answers and says this.. But it is a much deeper and extensive answer and completly no where near to your interpretation.[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred][SIZE=4]Summing briefly... ALL Physical creation was created from 5 elements. But Gurbani also says there is the nirgun/formless and subtle/sukam creations which we can't see like the Mind within us. But what are all these nirgun and subtle manifestations made of in order to survive in maya ??? ANSwer-.. They still have the subtle forms of 5 elements.[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(139, 0, 0)][SIZE=4]Gurbani talks quite clearly about these as well.[/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE=4][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/SIZE] [COLOR=rgb(139, 0, 0)][SIZE=4]So, this particular line is actually saying.''The Mind is also the life of these 5 elements whilst it sustains itself in maya creation''[/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE=4][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4]ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਲੇ ਜਉ ਉਨਮਨਿ ਰਹੈ ॥ Ih man le ja▫o unman rahai. When this mind is channeled, and guided to enlightenment, [SIZE=2][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4]ਤਉ ਤੀਨਿ ਲੋਕ ਕੀ ਬਾਤੈ ਕਹੈ ॥੩੩॥ Ŧa▫o ṯīn lok kī bāṯai kahai. ||33|| it can describe the secrets of the three worlds. ||33|| [/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT] ਜੋਰੁ ਨ ਰਾਜਿ ਮਾਲਿ ਮਨਿ ਸੋਰੁ ॥ Jor na rāj māl man sor. No power to rule, with wealth and occult mental powers. [COLOR=darkred]It is saying nothing about ''mind cannot be be stilled'' [I]'Man sor[/I]'' is using your mind to do the talking or make the noise,-which is why translation says [I]'occult mental powers'[/I]..... as that is what these mind manipulator ridi sidi occults do.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#8b0000]Please elaborate and explain if I have missed or can't see something ?[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Please explain how do you [U]replace chattering, [/U]without eradicating the thoughts ? Gurbani says in a few places that the Mind is like a BIRD and it will just wander in 10 directions, This same wandering is your mind going through all it's internal chitter chatter. The ONLY way to stop the wandering is what Gurbani itself says [I]'mann nu takhona' [/I]or 'Still the Mind'[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Like yourself, I shall quote the 1-liner references here but only to show you so that you may quite freely pick and choose any one to discuss further......(these are references to discuss further and prove me wrong!) I have not had the time myself to look at them in depth, BUT please, please... enlighten me with any one that you find that has some message that only the '[I]Sakat' or faithless cynic [/I]STILLS the Mind. OR that one is Manmukh compared to gurmukh who Stills Mind. OR even, any one that has the message that you gave above[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Page 170, Line 19 ਇਹੁ ਮਨੂਆ ਖਿਨੁ ਨ ਟਿਕੈ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗੀ ਦਹ ਦਹ ਦਿਸਿ ਚਲਿ ਚਲਿ ਹਾਢੇ ॥ Ih manū▫ā kẖin na tikai baho rangī ḏah ḏah ḏis cẖal cẖal hādẖe. This mind does not hold still, even for an instant. Distracted by all sorts of distractions, it wanders around aimlessly in the ten directions[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Page 232, ਧਾਵਤੁ ਰਾਖੈ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਏ ॥ Ḏẖāvaṯ rākẖai ṯẖāk rahā▫e. He controls, and restrains, and holds still the wandering mind[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Page 656, Line 9 ਸੰਤਹੁ ਮਨ ਪਵਨੈ ਸੁਖੁ ਬਨਿਆ ॥ Sanṯahu man pavnai sukẖ bani▫ā. O Saints, my windy mind has now become peaceful and still[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Page 789, Line 12 ਦਹ ਦਿਸ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਧਾਵਦਾ ਗੁਰਿ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥ Ḏah ḏis ih man ḏẖāvḏā gur ṯẖāk rahā▫i▫ā. The mind runs around in the ten directions; the Guru holds it still[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Page 1022, Line 17 ਧਾਵਤ ਰਾਖੇ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥ Ḏẖāvaṯ rākẖe ṯẖāk rahā▫i▫ā. He quiets and holds his wandering mind still Page 1068, Line 8 ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਰੈ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਰੇ ਹਉਮੈ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥੫॥ Gur kai sabaḏ marai man māre ha▫umai jā▫e samā▫i▫ā. ||5|| He dies in the Word of the Guru's Shabad, and conquers his mind; stilling his egotism, he merges in the Lord. ||5||[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]I thought it was forum rules to not give your own interpretation without full shabad. Your gurmukhi and punjabi is way more advanced than my self taught efforts, but I cannot in the world see how you make the statement above ?[/COLOR] [COLOR=#8b0000]very poor 'made in china' quality !!!!!![/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]I will save you some effort and give the shabad below..... Again, show me [U]how Guruji is calling stilling the Mind useless here ?[/U][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਗ੍ਰਿਹਿ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਜੋ ਰਹੈ ॥ Gur kai garihi sevak jo rahai. That selfless servant, who lives in the Guru's household, ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਆਗਿਆ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਸਹੈ ॥ Gur kī āgi▫ā man mėh sahai. is to obey the Guru's Commands with all his mind. ਆਪਸ ਕਉ ਕਰਿ ਕਛੁ ਨ ਜਨਾਵੈ ॥ Āpas ka▫o kar kacẖẖ na janāvai. He is not to call attention to himself in any way. ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਸਦ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ Har har nām riḏai saḏ ḏẖi▫āvai. He is to meditate constantly within his heart on the Name of the Lord. [B]ਮਨੁ ਬੇਚੈ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਪਾਸਿ ॥[/B] [B]Man becẖai saṯgur kai pās.[/B] [B]One who sells his mind to the True Guru -[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]ਤਿਸੁ ਸੇਵਕ ਕੇ ਕਾਰਜ ਰਾਸਿ ॥ Ŧis sevak ke kāraj rās. that humble servant's affairs are resolved. ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਤ ਹੋਇ ਨਿਹਕਾਮੀ ॥ Sevā karaṯ ho▫e nihkāmī. One who performs selfless service, without thought of reward, ਤਿਸ ਕਉ ਹੋਤ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਸੁਆਮੀ ॥ Ŧis ka▫o hoṯ parāpaṯ su▫āmī. shall attain his Lord and Master. ਅਪਨੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਜਿਸੁ ਆਪਿ ਕਰੇਇ ॥ Apnī kirpā jis āp kare▫i. He Himself grants His Grace; ਨਾਨਕ ਸੋ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਮਤਿ ਲੇਇ ॥੨॥ Nānak so sevak gur kī maṯ le▫e. ||2|| O Nanak, that selfless servant lives the Guru's Teachings. ||2|| [/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Does selling or offering your Mind mean you must never still it ? How do you sacrifice and devote your Mind toward satguru, keeping in Mind that you have dozens of thoughts running through and He knows every single one of them ?? [/COLOR] All my lowly knowledge and ignorance is telling me is that your interpretations are totally fabricated for your own personal use. [/QUOTE]
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