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<blockquote data-quote="ExploringSikhi" data-source="post: 192398" data-attributes="member: 19734"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Harry Ji, “artificial evolution” and biological evolution are not the same thing; I don’t see how they can even be compared. Computers, cars, airplanes and other tools created by humans to make our lives easier are changing, yes, but they are not living organisms. You can open up a computer, change the hard drive, upgrade the operating system, install a new box and voila, it isn’t even the same machine anymore, there is no memory of the past that affects its performance.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Living organisms are different, we do not shed off our past, it is ingrained in our DNA. Just because we have flying machines and centrally heated homes, does not mean that our genetic makeup has been altered, it is the same as it has been for hundreds of thousands of years, a few thousand years of civilization will not change anything.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">You are right in that masculinity and femininity have been defined for us by our prehistoric past, by the existence of gender roles and separate responsibilities. But just because we go to a supermarket to get our food rather than go out to hunt prey, it doesn’t mean that masculinity and femininity have no role to play in our 21st century existence. The purpose of human existence, as per evolution, is reproduction, that is the goal of every organism, to pass their genes on into the next generation. An organism that does not pass its genes on into the next generation is removed from the gene pool, the “bloodline” ends and they are forgotten, those that had a natural inclination for reproduction and had the means to do so lives on through their offspring.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">For most people, reproduction is the greatest driving force behind their day-to-day lives, it powers everything we do. From the way we dress to the way we speak to the way we try to look (going to the gym, working out etc…) to the way we act, even what career path to follow, for most people, it is all to do with attracting the opposite gender for the purposes of procreation.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">People may not talk about masculinity and femininity in public as much as before but that doesn’t mean their significance has decreased. What goes up must come down, this was true long before a formal theory of gravity was ever drafted, similarly, all of us have natural, internal inclinations towards certain traits in the opposite, they are for the most part beyond our control, masculinity and femininity have existed long before the words were created, masculinity and femininity still exist and will exist into the foreseeable future, at least until we can find a way to alter our genetic makeup.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Harry Ji, </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">“Knowing where you came from is no less important than knowing where you are going.”</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">- Neil deGrasse Tyson.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Yes, very much so. Mail traits and feminine traits are the same today as they have been for thousands, if not millions of years. I will give a few physical and personality traits.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Physical: Masculine= wide chest, broad shoulders, defined arms, calves and quads (basically, lean body) and to a lesser extent, height (women tend to prefer men who are taller than them).</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Feminine= wide hips (child-bearing), supple breasts, petite frame and height (men tend to go for women who are shorter than them).</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Personality: Masculine= probably the number one masculine personality trait is decisiveness, it shows confidence and power, which combined demand respect, and make that particular man a leader. Men who are leaders and have high social status tend to do much better than men who are not leaders and do not have high social status.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Feminine= Empathy is a powerful feminine trait, it implies warmth and kind-heartedness, necessary qualities when it comes to raising stable children.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Now again, there is no such thing as an exclusively masculine or feminine trait, women have a certain level of decisiveness just like men have empathy, but feminine traits are, on average, present to a much more powerful degree in females than in males, just like masculine traits are much more powerful in males than in females.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">I will try to dig it up for you if you want, but there is a science between masculinity and femininity in that the more masculine a male is, the more feminine of a mate he seeks out. The more feminine a female is, the more masculine of a mate she will seek out. So for example, a man who is 90% masculine and 10% feminine would be most attracted to a woman who is 90% feminine and 10% masculine (and vice-versa), whereas a man who is 60% masculine and 40% feminine would be most attracted to a woman who is 60% feminine and 40% masculine, a yin-yang of sorts, we try to find someone who will even us out. How masculinity and femininity are determined has much to do with testosterone and estrogen, but that is a whole different discussion.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">We are not androgynous blobs of flesh, there are separate 2 genders, they have historically existed for largely different reason and they are not the same. Physical strength and speed may not have much to do with putting food on the table in the 21st century, but masculinity and femininity are as relevant today as ever in the great struggle for the survival of the human species.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExploringSikhi, post: 192398, member: 19734"] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Harry Ji, “artificial evolution” and biological evolution are not the same thing; I don’t see how they can even be compared. Computers, cars, airplanes and other tools created by humans to make our lives easier are changing, yes, but they are not living organisms. You can open up a computer, change the hard drive, upgrade the operating system, install a new box and voila, it isn’t even the same machine anymore, there is no memory of the past that affects its performance.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Living organisms are different, we do not shed off our past, it is ingrained in our DNA. Just because we have flying machines and centrally heated homes, does not mean that our genetic makeup has been altered, it is the same as it has been for hundreds of thousands of years, a few thousand years of civilization will not change anything.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]You are right in that masculinity and femininity have been defined for us by our prehistoric past, by the existence of gender roles and separate responsibilities. But just because we go to a supermarket to get our food rather than go out to hunt prey, it doesn’t mean that masculinity and femininity have no role to play in our 21st century existence. The purpose of human existence, as per evolution, is reproduction, that is the goal of every organism, to pass their genes on into the next generation. An organism that does not pass its genes on into the next generation is removed from the gene pool, the “bloodline” ends and they are forgotten, those that had a natural inclination for reproduction and had the means to do so lives on through their offspring.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]For most people, reproduction is the greatest driving force behind their day-to-day lives, it powers everything we do. From the way we dress to the way we speak to the way we try to look (going to the gym, working out etc…) to the way we act, even what career path to follow, for most people, it is all to do with attracting the opposite gender for the purposes of procreation.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]People may not talk about masculinity and femininity in public as much as before but that doesn’t mean their significance has decreased. What goes up must come down, this was true long before a formal theory of gravity was ever drafted, similarly, all of us have natural, internal inclinations towards certain traits in the opposite, they are for the most part beyond our control, masculinity and femininity have existed long before the words were created, masculinity and femininity still exist and will exist into the foreseeable future, at least until we can find a way to alter our genetic makeup.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Harry Ji, [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]“Knowing where you came from is no less important than knowing where you are going.”[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]- Neil deGrasse Tyson.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Yes, very much so. Mail traits and feminine traits are the same today as they have been for thousands, if not millions of years. I will give a few physical and personality traits.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Physical: Masculine= wide chest, broad shoulders, defined arms, calves and quads (basically, lean body) and to a lesser extent, height (women tend to prefer men who are taller than them).[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Feminine= wide hips (child-bearing), supple breasts, petite frame and height (men tend to go for women who are shorter than them).[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Personality: Masculine= probably the number one masculine personality trait is decisiveness, it shows confidence and power, which combined demand respect, and make that particular man a leader. Men who are leaders and have high social status tend to do much better than men who are not leaders and do not have high social status.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Feminine= Empathy is a powerful feminine trait, it implies warmth and kind-heartedness, necessary qualities when it comes to raising stable children.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Now again, there is no such thing as an exclusively masculine or feminine trait, women have a certain level of decisiveness just like men have empathy, but feminine traits are, on average, present to a much more powerful degree in females than in males, just like masculine traits are much more powerful in males than in females.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]I will try to dig it up for you if you want, but there is a science between masculinity and femininity in that the more masculine a male is, the more feminine of a mate he seeks out. The more feminine a female is, the more masculine of a mate she will seek out. So for example, a man who is 90% masculine and 10% feminine would be most attracted to a woman who is 90% feminine and 10% masculine (and vice-versa), whereas a man who is 60% masculine and 40% feminine would be most attracted to a woman who is 60% feminine and 40% masculine, a yin-yang of sorts, we try to find someone who will even us out. How masculinity and femininity are determined has much to do with testosterone and estrogen, but that is a whole different discussion.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]We are not androgynous blobs of flesh, there are separate 2 genders, they have historically existed for largely different reason and they are not the same. Physical strength and speed may not have much to do with putting food on the table in the 21st century, but masculinity and femininity are as relevant today as ever in the great struggle for the survival of the human species.[/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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