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<blockquote data-quote="Harjas Kaur Khalsa" data-source="post: 82751" data-attributes="member: 2125"><p>But it goes against the human logic. We are eulogizing the Lord because He exists. The Lord Himself is all that exists. The Lord IS eulogizing Himself through the forms of creation. This is His design. It is God's play.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸਤਿ ਸਾਚੁ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਸਦਾ ਤੁਹੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥੩॥੮॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">sath saach sree nivaas aadh purakh sadhaa thuhee vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahi jeeo ||3||8||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">You are forever True, the Home of Excellence, the Primal Supreme Being. Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o. ||3||8||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਬਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">sathiguroo sathiguroo sathigur gubindh jeeo ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">The True Guru, the True Guru, the True Guru is the Lord of the Universe Himself.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਬਲਿਹਿ ਛਲਨ ਸਬਲ ਮਲਨ ਭਗ੍ਤਿ ਫਲਨ ਕਾਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਕੁਅਰ ਨਿਹਕਲੰਕ ਬਜੀ ਡੰਕ ਚੜ੍ਹੂ ਦਲ ਰਵਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">balihi shhalan sabal malan bhagio falan kaanh kuar nihakalank bajee ddank charrhoo dhal ravindh jeeo ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Enticer of Baliraja, who smothers the mighty, and fulfills the devotees; the Prince Krishna, and Kalki; the thunder of His army and the beat of His drum echoes across the Universe.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਰਾਮ ਰਵਣ ਦੁਰਤ ਦਵਣ ਸਕਲ ਭਵਣ ਕੁਸਲ ਕਰਣ ਸਰਬ ਭੂਤ ਆਪਿ ਹੀ ਦੇਵਾਧਿ ਦੇਵ ਸਹਸ ਮੁਖ ਫਨਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">raam ravan dhurath dhavan sakal bhavan kusal karan sarab bhooth aap hee dhaevaadhh dhaev sehas mukh fanindh jeeo ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">The Lord of contemplation, Destroyer of sin, who brings pleasure to the beings of all realms, He Himself is the God of gods, Divinity of the divine, the thousand-headed king cobra.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਜਰਮ ਕਰਮ ਮਛ ਕਛ ਹੁਅ ਬਰਾਹ ਜਮੁਨਾ ਕੈ ਕੂਲਿ ਖੇਲੁ ਖੇਲਿਓ ਜਿਨਿ ਗਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">jaram karam mashh kashh hua baraah jamunaa kai kool khael khaeliou jin gindh jeeo ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">He took birth in the Incarnations of the Fish, Tortoise and Wild Boar, and played His part. He played games on the banks of the Jamunaa River.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਨਾਮੁ ਸਾਰੁ ਹੀਏ ਧਾਰੁ ਤਜੁ ਬਿਕਾਰੁ ਮਨ ਗਯੰਦ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਗੁਬਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥੪॥੯॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">naam saar heeeae dhhaar thaj bikaar man gayandh sathiguroo sathiguroo sathigur gubindh jeeo ||4||9||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Enshrine this most excellent Name within your heart, and renounce the wickedness of the mind, O Gayand the True Guru, the True Guru, the True Guru is the Lord of the Universe Himself. ||4||9||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">siree guroo siree guroo siree guroo sath jeeo ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">The Supreme Guru, the Supreme Guru, the Supreme Guru, the True, Dear Lord.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਗੁਰ ਕਹਿਆ ਮਾਨੁ ਨਿਜ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ਸਚੁ ਜਾਨੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਇਹੈ ਨਿਸਿ ਬਾਸੁਰ ਹੋਇ ਕਲ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਨੁ ਲਹਹਿ ਪਰਮ ਗਤਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">gur kehiaa maan nij nidhhaan sach jaan manthra eihai nis baasur hoe kalyaan lehehi param gath jeeo ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Respect and obey the Guru's Word; this is your own personal treasure - know this mantra as true. Night and day, you shall be saved, and blessed with the supreme status.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 1403</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>How can the Uncreated take birth? Gurbani says this in many places. The world is illusion. True Reality is there is only the God, nirgun and sargun.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਸਭ ਇਕਾ ਜੋਤਿ ਵਰਤੈ ਭਿਨਿ ਭਿਨਿ ਨ ਰਲਈ ਕਿਸੈ ਦੀ ਰਲਾਈਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">sabh eikaa joth varathai bhin bhin n ralee kisai dhee ralaaeeaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">The One Light pervades all the many and various beings. This Light intermingles with them, but it is not diluted or obscured.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 96</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the Jyot of God is not changed by pervading within all forms, and our forms are dying. Ultimately what are we? Are we the body? No. Are we the human brain? No. So what exactly are we anyway? Ego? Mind? Consciousness? Karam? The jeevatman? And if we believe Gurbani we know mukti means we will merge into the Jyot of God. We won't take our karma and ego. All we will take is purified consciousness which is Light. But it will be a Turiya consciousness, not even this shallow personality we think is who we are. So the Light and Sound exist as one thing in higher dimensions. The Light is singing praise of It's Glory. Maybe that's the best human speech can describe of the indescribable. But mukti and merging won't have anything to do with our perception of being a person. Because ultimately we aren't a person. Haven't we been born in other forms as well? So something of the indestructible and Uncreated persists in us from form to form.</p><p></p><p></p><p>~Bhul chak maaf</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harjas Kaur Khalsa, post: 82751, member: 2125"] But it goes against the human logic. We are eulogizing the Lord because He exists. The Lord Himself is all that exists. The Lord IS eulogizing Himself through the forms of creation. This is His design. It is God's play. [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਸਤਿ ਸਾਚੁ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਸਦਾ ਤੁਹੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥੩॥੮॥ sath saach sree nivaas aadh purakh sadhaa thuhee vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahi jeeo ||3||8|| You are forever True, the Home of Excellence, the Primal Supreme Being. Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o. ||3||8|| ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਬਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥ sathiguroo sathiguroo sathigur gubindh jeeo || The True Guru, the True Guru, the True Guru is the Lord of the Universe Himself. ਬਲਿਹਿ ਛਲਨ ਸਬਲ ਮਲਨ ਭਗ੍ਤਿ ਫਲਨ ਕਾਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਕੁਅਰ ਨਿਹਕਲੰਕ ਬਜੀ ਡੰਕ ਚੜ੍ਹੂ ਦਲ ਰਵਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥ balihi shhalan sabal malan bhagio falan kaanh kuar nihakalank bajee ddank charrhoo dhal ravindh jeeo || Enticer of Baliraja, who smothers the mighty, and fulfills the devotees; the Prince Krishna, and Kalki; the thunder of His army and the beat of His drum echoes across the Universe. ਰਾਮ ਰਵਣ ਦੁਰਤ ਦਵਣ ਸਕਲ ਭਵਣ ਕੁਸਲ ਕਰਣ ਸਰਬ ਭੂਤ ਆਪਿ ਹੀ ਦੇਵਾਧਿ ਦੇਵ ਸਹਸ ਮੁਖ ਫਨਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥ raam ravan dhurath dhavan sakal bhavan kusal karan sarab bhooth aap hee dhaevaadhh dhaev sehas mukh fanindh jeeo || The Lord of contemplation, Destroyer of sin, who brings pleasure to the beings of all realms, He Himself is the God of gods, Divinity of the divine, the thousand-headed king cobra. ਜਰਮ ਕਰਮ ਮਛ ਕਛ ਹੁਅ ਬਰਾਹ ਜਮੁਨਾ ਕੈ ਕੂਲਿ ਖੇਲੁ ਖੇਲਿਓ ਜਿਨਿ ਗਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥ jaram karam mashh kashh hua baraah jamunaa kai kool khael khaeliou jin gindh jeeo || He took birth in the Incarnations of the Fish, Tortoise and Wild Boar, and played His part. He played games on the banks of the Jamunaa River. ਨਾਮੁ ਸਾਰੁ ਹੀਏ ਧਾਰੁ ਤਜੁ ਬਿਕਾਰੁ ਮਨ ਗਯੰਦ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਗੁਬਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥੪॥੯॥ naam saar heeeae dhhaar thaj bikaar man gayandh sathiguroo sathiguroo sathigur gubindh jeeo ||4||9|| Enshrine this most excellent Name within your heart, and renounce the wickedness of the mind, O Gayand the True Guru, the True Guru, the True Guru is the Lord of the Universe Himself. ||4||9|| ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ siree guroo siree guroo siree guroo sath jeeo || The Supreme Guru, the Supreme Guru, the Supreme Guru, the True, Dear Lord. ਗੁਰ ਕਹਿਆ ਮਾਨੁ ਨਿਜ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ਸਚੁ ਜਾਨੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਇਹੈ ਨਿਸਿ ਬਾਸੁਰ ਹੋਇ ਕਲ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਨੁ ਲਹਹਿ ਪਰਮ ਗਤਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ gur kehiaa maan nij nidhhaan sach jaan manthra eihai nis baasur hoe kalyaan lehehi param gath jeeo || Respect and obey the Guru's Word; this is your own personal treasure - know this mantra as true. Night and day, you shall be saved, and blessed with the supreme status. ~SGGS Ji p. 1403 [/COLOR][/INDENT] How can the Uncreated take birth? Gurbani says this in many places. The world is illusion. True Reality is there is only the God, nirgun and sargun. [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਸਭ ਇਕਾ ਜੋਤਿ ਵਰਤੈ ਭਿਨਿ ਭਿਨਿ ਨ ਰਲਈ ਕਿਸੈ ਦੀ ਰਲਾਈਆ ॥ sabh eikaa joth varathai bhin bhin n ralee kisai dhee ralaaeeaa || The One Light pervades all the many and various beings. This Light intermingles with them, but it is not diluted or obscured. ~SGGS Ji p. 96[/COLOR][/INDENT] If the Jyot of God is not changed by pervading within all forms, and our forms are dying. Ultimately what are we? Are we the body? No. Are we the human brain? No. So what exactly are we anyway? Ego? Mind? Consciousness? Karam? The jeevatman? And if we believe Gurbani we know mukti means we will merge into the Jyot of God. We won't take our karma and ego. All we will take is purified consciousness which is Light. But it will be a Turiya consciousness, not even this shallow personality we think is who we are. So the Light and Sound exist as one thing in higher dimensions. The Light is singing praise of It's Glory. Maybe that's the best human speech can describe of the indescribable. But mukti and merging won't have anything to do with our perception of being a person. Because ultimately we aren't a person. Haven't we been born in other forms as well? So something of the indestructible and Uncreated persists in us from form to form. ~Bhul chak maaf [/QUOTE]
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Understanding Guru As Per Granth Sahib
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