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<blockquote data-quote="Harjas Kaur Khalsa" data-source="post: 82734" data-attributes="member: 2125"><p>Is the God personal? According to Gurbani, yes. However, a formless God without attributes is nirguna and unknowable to human beings. Even the devas do not know His limits. Is the God impersonal and beyond form, thoughts and concepts where words cannot even be uttered? Yes.</p><p></p><p>But He is also a personal God which can be approached by us in prayer. Therefore He must have taken on a sargun aspect. So both views are correct. The God is nirgun and sargun. </p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਜੇ ਹਉ ਜਾਣਾ ਆਖਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਥਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">jae ho jaanaa aakhaa naahee kehanaa kathhan n jaaee ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 2</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਪੈ ਕੀਤਾ ਆਕਾਰੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">anth n jaapai keethaa aakaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">The limits of the created universe cannot be perceived.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਪੈ ਪਾਰਾਵਾਰੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">anth n jaapai paaraavaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Its limits here and beyond cannot be perceived.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਅੰਤ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਕੇਤੇ ਬਿਲਲਾਹਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">anth kaaran kaethae bilalaahi ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Many struggle to know His limits, </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਤਾ ਕੇ ਅੰਤ ਨ ਪਾਏ ਜਾਹਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">thaa kae anth n paaeae jaahi ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">but His limits cannot be found. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਏਹੁ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ਕੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">eaehu anth n jaanai koe ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">No one can know these limits.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 5</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've always read that Guruji fundamentally changed the Hindu definition of God from pantheism to strict monothesim. We can see embodied in the definition of Omkar/AUMkar is the Trimurti, the 3 principal Mahadevas: Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, plus "kar" (to create). And by placing the numeral 1 in front of the Omkara, Guruji defined a solely monothesistic (sargun) Creator God.</p><p></p><p>It's really a misunderstanding of Hinduism to believe that the 1 is in conflict with the Trimurti of the AUM and fighting for supremacy by negating them. The whole creation is subordinated, not negated. Ek Onkar is a perfectly balanced equation. It reads, "1 created the Om." And the Om embodies the entire sansaara, past, present and future. It is a powerfully mystical concept. The 1 is a literal "Oneness" which pervades and is existing within the creation, because the creation is incorporated, subsumed by it. The True face of creation is not this illusion of form. The creation IS the Creator. If your individual jeev is an illusion which disappears with mukti, then how can you be a creation? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And remember, the Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradya established by Mahaprabhu Chaitanya teaches a qualified Dvaita and accepts the Advaita of most other schools of Hinduism, and that is universe is illusion and everything is Brahman.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਤੂੰ ਘਟ ਘਟ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸਰਬ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਜੀ ਹਰਿ ਏਕੋ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਸਮਾਣਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">thoon ghatt ghatt anthar sarab niranthar jee har eaeko purakh samaanaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">You are constant in each and every heart, and in all things. O Dear Lord, you are the One.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਇਕਿ ਦਾਤੇ ਇਕਿ ਭੇਖਾਰੀ ਜੀ ਸਭਿ ਤੇਰੇ ਚੋਜ ਵਿਡਾਣਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">eik dhaathae eik bhaekhaaree jee sabh thaerae choj viddaanaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">Some are givers, and some are beggars. This is all Your Wondrous Play. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਤੂੰ ਆਪੇ ਦਾਤਾ ਆਪੇ ਭੁਗਤਾ ਜੀ ਹਉ ਤੁਧੁ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">thoon aapae dhaathaa aapae bhugathaa jee ho thudhh bin avar n jaanaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">You Yourself are the Giver, and You Yourself are the Enjoyer. I know no other than You.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">~SGGS Ji p. 11</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਸਹਸ ਪਦ ਬਿਮਲ ਨਨ ਏਕ ਪਦ ਗੰਧ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਹਸ ਤਵ ਗੰਧ ਇਵ ਚਲਤ ਮੋਹੀ ॥੨॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">sehas padh bimal nan eaek padh gandhh bin sehas thav gandhh eiv chalath mohee ||2||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">You have thousands of Lotus Feet, and yet You do not have even one foot. You have no nose, but you have thousands of noses. This Play of Yours entrances me. ||2||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਹੈ ਸੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">sabh mehi joth joth hai soe ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Amongst all is the Light-You are that Light. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਤਿਸ ਦੈ ਚਾਨਣਿ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਚਾਨਣੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">this dhai chaanan sabh mehi chaanan hoe ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">By this Illumination, that Light is radiant within all. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਗੁਰ ਸਾਖੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">gur saakhee joth paragatt hoe ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Through the Guru's Teachings, the Light shines forth. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਜੋ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੁ ਆਰਤੀ ਹੋਇ ॥੩॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">jo this bhaavai s aarathee hoe ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">That which is pleasing to Him is the lamp-lit worship service. ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">~SGGS Ji p. 13</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">Eko Brahman, Dwiteeyo Naasti. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">(There is Brahman alone there is none other (than Brahman) </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">-Upanishads</span></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">aykaa aykankaaru|ikhi daykhaaliaa| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">(By writing 1 (One) in the beginning, it has been shown that Ekankar, God, who subsumes all forms in Him is only one (and not two or three). </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">-Vaar 3 Pauri 15 of 20 of Vaaran Bhai Gurdas</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>Subsumed means incorporated, within, a part of. Nothing is excluded. How can we exclude the demi-gods from the sargun saroop of the Oneness who is Supreme when Gurbani didn't? There is only Oneness. All the jivs are part of the sansaaric world of three gunas and Maya which is all illusion. Behind the shadow of all forms is the Oneness. I'm not even going to say One anymore, because people think there's this One lone Abrahamic God waiting for all His children to get to heaven. No place. No time. No division. The deepest truth is we are the sargun saroop. Not our ego-identities. The light within us. Parabrahm Parameshvar. Some forms shine the light more than others because we live in a world of darkness. Saints are blessed because they shine light in darkness. Avtaars are an incredible brightness. They manifest the imperceivable nirguna to the sansaara. Without avtaaras, we could not have Shabad-Jyot of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Because Gurbani says Guruji was an avtaara of the Kaliyug. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਕਬਿ ਕਲ ਸੁਜਸੁ ਗਾਵਉ ਗੁਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਰਾਜੁ ਜੋਗੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਮਾਣਿਓ ॥੩॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">kab kal sujas gaavo gur naanak raaj jog jin maaniou ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">KAL the poet sings the Sublime Praises of Guru Nanak, who enjoys mastery of Raja Yoga. ||3|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਗਾਵਹਿ ਕਪਿਲਾਦਿ ਆਦਿ ਜੋਗੇਸੁਰ ਅਪਰੰਪਰ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਵਰੋ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">gaavehi kapilaadh aadh jogaesur aparanpar avathaar varo ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">Kapila and the other Yogis sing of Guru Nanak. He is the Avataar, the Incarnation of the Infinite Lord.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">~SGGS Ji p. 1389</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eko Brahman. Brahman = Om. </p><p>Ek Omkar/Oangkar. Brahman is one, not two or three. </p><p>"Kar" means to create.</p><p></p><p>The first words of Mool Mantra don't mean classical monotheism in the Abrahamic sense where the Supreme God is only personal (sarguna) but clearly from the very first word in Mool Mantra the Supreme God is both impersonal (nirgun) and subsumed into this all-pervading aspect of formless Oneness is the whole creation which is sarguna, including the devas and starting with the devas. It's clear that <span style="color: Blue">ੴ</span> is written with authority of Sruti found in Upanishads, and not in any way contradicting. The definition of God is given in terms of qualified Advaitic philosophy that the many are actually the One, derivative of the One which subsumes all forms. Everything is the One. It's a qualified Advaitic philosophy because, as in Vaishnava Vedanta, Gurbani also worships a personal God who can be reached with words, perceived with constructs of form even if that form it takes is Shabad in words of Gurbani.</p><p> </p><p>Older descriptions of the Aum in Vedas are the terms: Ek Ak Sara and Pranava. What do they mean which could give insight? The earliest term from the Rig Veda is Ekakshara. What could it mean? Since the term AUM is more recent description. And at once it becomes clear that not only was Guruji able to know the Vedas, He knew what even scholars did not know... the original defintions. And this shows Guruji was not rejecting revealed Truth, Sruti. But He was correcting errors of teaching and degeneration which had crept into religion, because the Dharma was no longer standing on all it's legs.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed">Ek Ak Sara : The imperishable Oneness that created and subsumes the Om.</span> </p><p></p><p>The very Sanskrit definition of Ekaksara from the Rig Veda (1.164.39), is identical with Ek Onkar.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And it's from the definition of Pranava (“pronouncing”), another older term for AUMkar, and we see the origin of the anehadh Naad. Without the Omkar, there would be no Naad. And there would be no Shabad. And there would be no Naam. So Onkar MUST be Omkar. It cannot be anything else but the universal sound which is the voice of nirguna vibrating into sarguna and causing creation. AUM is creative, preserving and destroying principle. It is an entire system which renews itself. AUM is the Naad.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Amrit Naad Upanishad. </p><p>Guruji's philosophy and path to mukti comes from the Upanishads.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਪਾਏ ਵੀਚਾਰਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">sathigur thae paaeae veechaaraa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">From the True Guru, contemplative meditation is obtained. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਸਚੇ ਘਰ ਬਾਰਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">sunn samaadhh sachae ghar baaraa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">And then, one dwells with the True Lord in His celestial home, the Primal State of Absorption in Deepest Samaadhi.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">ਨਾਨਕ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਨਾਦੁ ਸਬਦ ਧੁਨਿ ਸਚੁ ਰਾਮੈ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੭॥੫॥੧੭॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">naanak niramal naadh sabadh dhhun sach raamai naam samaaeidhaa ||17||5||17||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">O Nanak, the immaculate sound current of the Naad, and the Music of the Shabad resound; one merges into the True Name of the Lord. ||17||5||17||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkRed">~SGGS Ji p. 1038</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਅਨਹਤ ਤਹ ਨਾਦ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">sunn samaadhh anehath theh naadh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">The Deepest Samaadhi, and the unstruck sound current of the Naad are there. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਕਹਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ਅਚਰਜ ਬਿਸਮਾਦ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">kehan n jaaee acharaj bisamaadh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">The wonder and marvel of it cannot be described.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">~SGGS Ji p. 293</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਨਉ ਦਰਵਾਜੇ ਦਸਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਾ ਅਨਹਦ ਸਬਦੁ ਵਜਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੩॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">no dharavaajae dhasavai mukathaa anehadh sabadh vajaavaniaa ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Beyond the nine gates, the Tenth Gate is found, and liberation is obtained. The Unstruck Melody of the Shabad vibrates. ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 110</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here we see that the anehadh Shabad is from the Naad.</p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਬਦੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਹਰਿ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">anmrith sabadh anmrith har baanee ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">The Shabad is Amrit; the Lord's Bani is Amrit. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਸੇਵਿਐ ਰਿਦੈ ਸਮਾਣੀ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">sathigur saeviai ridhai samaanee ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Serving the True Guru, it permeates the heart.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">~SGGS Ji p. 119</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>The anehad Naad vibrates from the nirguna, the anehad Shabad comes from the anehad Naad. Amrit comes from the Shabad. That is the relationship.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: Blue">Eko Brahman. Eko Omkar.</span></p><p>Unfortunately in the Abrahamized West there are real misunderstandings as to the definitions of God. For example, probably no religious beliefs have been more abused or reviled than Hinduism by missionaries of every stripe seeking to prove pantheism is mythological and therefore false, and trying to prove their version of God is superior to all the gods of Hindu religion.</p><p></p><p>With this backdrop, most Sikhs are now trying to do the same thing. So it isn't unusual to hear someone say the numeral 1 cancelled out the other 3, or that Oangkar isn't the same thing as Omkar and thus has no relationship to AUM. And if you ask these people to explain the concept of the Naad and Shabad... they can't. And the reason they can't, is they just negated the concept of Naad by eliminating the AUM.</p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਪੰਚ ਸਬਦ ਤਹ ਪੂਰਨ ਨਾਦ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">panch sabadh theh pooran naadh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">The Panch Shabad, the five primal sounds, echo the perfect sound current of the Naad.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਅਨਹਦ ਬਾਜੇ ਅਚਰਜ ਬਿਸਮਾਦ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">anehadh baajae acharaj bisamaadh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">The wondrous, amazing unstruck melody vibrates.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 888</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਗੁਨਨਾਦਧੁਨਿਅਨੰਦਬੇਦ॥</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">gun naadh dhhun anandh baedh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">The Glory of God is the Sound-current of the Naad, the Celestial Music of Bliss, and the Wisdom of the Vedas.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">~SGGS Ji p. 1322</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>~Bhul chak maaf karni ji</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harjas Kaur Khalsa, post: 82734, member: 2125"] Is the God personal? According to Gurbani, yes. However, a formless God without attributes is nirguna and unknowable to human beings. Even the devas do not know His limits. Is the God impersonal and beyond form, thoughts and concepts where words cannot even be uttered? Yes. But He is also a personal God which can be approached by us in prayer. Therefore He must have taken on a sargun aspect. So both views are correct. The God is nirgun and sargun. [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਜੇ ਹਉ ਜਾਣਾ ਆਖਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਥਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥ jae ho jaanaa aakhaa naahee kehanaa kathhan n jaaee || Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words. ~SGGS Ji p. 2[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਪੈ ਕੀਤਾ ਆਕਾਰੁ ॥ anth n jaapai keethaa aakaar || The limits of the created universe cannot be perceived. ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਪੈ ਪਾਰਾਵਾਰੁ ॥ anth n jaapai paaraavaar || Its limits here and beyond cannot be perceived. ਅੰਤ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਕੇਤੇ ਬਿਲਲਾਹਿ ॥ anth kaaran kaethae bilalaahi || Many struggle to know His limits, ਤਾ ਕੇ ਅੰਤ ਨ ਪਾਏ ਜਾਹਿ ॥ thaa kae anth n paaeae jaahi || but His limits cannot be found. ਏਹੁ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ਕੋਇ ॥ eaehu anth n jaanai koe || No one can know these limits. ~SGGS Ji p. 5[/COLOR][/INDENT] I've always read that Guruji fundamentally changed the Hindu definition of God from pantheism to strict monothesim. We can see embodied in the definition of Omkar/AUMkar is the Trimurti, the 3 principal Mahadevas: Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, plus "kar" (to create). And by placing the numeral 1 in front of the Omkara, Guruji defined a solely monothesistic (sargun) Creator God. It's really a misunderstanding of Hinduism to believe that the 1 is in conflict with the Trimurti of the AUM and fighting for supremacy by negating them. The whole creation is subordinated, not negated. Ek Onkar is a perfectly balanced equation. It reads, "1 created the Om." And the Om embodies the entire sansaara, past, present and future. It is a powerfully mystical concept. The 1 is a literal "Oneness" which pervades and is existing within the creation, because the creation is incorporated, subsumed by it. The True face of creation is not this illusion of form. The creation IS the Creator. If your individual jeev is an illusion which disappears with mukti, then how can you be a creation? And remember, the Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradya established by Mahaprabhu Chaitanya teaches a qualified Dvaita and accepts the Advaita of most other schools of Hinduism, and that is universe is illusion and everything is Brahman. [INDENT][COLOR="Blue"]ਤੂੰ ਘਟ ਘਟ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸਰਬ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਜੀ ਹਰਿ ਏਕੋ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਸਮਾਣਾ ॥ thoon ghatt ghatt anthar sarab niranthar jee har eaeko purakh samaanaa || You are constant in each and every heart, and in all things. O Dear Lord, you are the One. ਇਕਿ ਦਾਤੇ ਇਕਿ ਭੇਖਾਰੀ ਜੀ ਸਭਿ ਤੇਰੇ ਚੋਜ ਵਿਡਾਣਾ ॥ eik dhaathae eik bhaekhaaree jee sabh thaerae choj viddaanaa || Some are givers, and some are beggars. This is all Your Wondrous Play. ਤੂੰ ਆਪੇ ਦਾਤਾ ਆਪੇ ਭੁਗਤਾ ਜੀ ਹਉ ਤੁਧੁ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ thoon aapae dhaathaa aapae bhugathaa jee ho thudhh bin avar n jaanaa || You Yourself are the Giver, and You Yourself are the Enjoyer. I know no other than You. ~SGGS Ji p. 11[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Indigo"]ਸਹਸ ਪਦ ਬਿਮਲ ਨਨ ਏਕ ਪਦ ਗੰਧ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਹਸ ਤਵ ਗੰਧ ਇਵ ਚਲਤ ਮੋਹੀ ॥੨॥ sehas padh bimal nan eaek padh gandhh bin sehas thav gandhh eiv chalath mohee ||2|| You have thousands of Lotus Feet, and yet You do not have even one foot. You have no nose, but you have thousands of noses. This Play of Yours entrances me. ||2|| ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਹੈ ਸੋਇ ॥ sabh mehi joth joth hai soe || Amongst all is the Light-You are that Light. ਤਿਸ ਦੈ ਚਾਨਣਿ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਚਾਨਣੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ this dhai chaanan sabh mehi chaanan hoe || By this Illumination, that Light is radiant within all. ਗੁਰ ਸਾਖੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ gur saakhee joth paragatt hoe || Through the Guru's Teachings, the Light shines forth. ਜੋ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੁ ਆਰਤੀ ਹੋਇ ॥੩॥ jo this bhaavai s aarathee hoe ||3|| That which is pleasing to Him is the lamp-lit worship service. ||3|| ~SGGS Ji p. 13 [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="DarkRed"]Eko Brahman, Dwiteeyo Naasti. (There is Brahman alone there is none other (than Brahman) -Upanishads[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Blue"]aykaa aykankaaru|ikhi daykhaaliaa| (By writing 1 (One) in the beginning, it has been shown that Ekankar, God, who subsumes all forms in Him is only one (and not two or three). -Vaar 3 Pauri 15 of 20 of Vaaran Bhai Gurdas[/COLOR][/INDENT] Subsumed means incorporated, within, a part of. Nothing is excluded. How can we exclude the demi-gods from the sargun saroop of the Oneness who is Supreme when Gurbani didn't? There is only Oneness. All the jivs are part of the sansaaric world of three gunas and Maya which is all illusion. Behind the shadow of all forms is the Oneness. I'm not even going to say One anymore, because people think there's this One lone Abrahamic God waiting for all His children to get to heaven. No place. No time. No division. The deepest truth is we are the sargun saroop. Not our ego-identities. The light within us. Parabrahm Parameshvar. Some forms shine the light more than others because we live in a world of darkness. Saints are blessed because they shine light in darkness. Avtaars are an incredible brightness. They manifest the imperceivable nirguna to the sansaara. Without avtaaras, we could not have Shabad-Jyot of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Because Gurbani says Guruji was an avtaara of the Kaliyug. [INDENT][COLOR="Blue"]ਕਬਿ ਕਲ ਸੁਜਸੁ ਗਾਵਉ ਗੁਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਰਾਜੁ ਜੋਗੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਮਾਣਿਓ ॥੩॥ kab kal sujas gaavo gur naanak raaj jog jin maaniou ||3|| KAL the poet sings the Sublime Praises of Guru Nanak, who enjoys mastery of Raja Yoga. ||3|| ਗਾਵਹਿ ਕਪਿਲਾਦਿ ਆਦਿ ਜੋਗੇਸੁਰ ਅਪਰੰਪਰ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਵਰੋ ॥ gaavehi kapilaadh aadh jogaesur aparanpar avathaar varo || Kapila and the other Yogis sing of Guru Nanak. He is the Avataar, the Incarnation of the Infinite Lord. ~SGGS Ji p. 1389[/COLOR][/INDENT] Eko Brahman. Brahman = Om. Ek Omkar/Oangkar. Brahman is one, not two or three. "Kar" means to create. The first words of Mool Mantra don't mean classical monotheism in the Abrahamic sense where the Supreme God is only personal (sarguna) but clearly from the very first word in Mool Mantra the Supreme God is both impersonal (nirgun) and subsumed into this all-pervading aspect of formless Oneness is the whole creation which is sarguna, including the devas and starting with the devas. It's clear that [COLOR="Blue"]ੴ[/COLOR] is written with authority of Sruti found in Upanishads, and not in any way contradicting. The definition of God is given in terms of qualified Advaitic philosophy that the many are actually the One, derivative of the One which subsumes all forms. Everything is the One. It's a qualified Advaitic philosophy because, as in Vaishnava Vedanta, Gurbani also worships a personal God who can be reached with words, perceived with constructs of form even if that form it takes is Shabad in words of Gurbani. Older descriptions of the Aum in Vedas are the terms: Ek Ak Sara and Pranava. What do they mean which could give insight? The earliest term from the Rig Veda is Ekakshara. What could it mean? Since the term AUM is more recent description. And at once it becomes clear that not only was Guruji able to know the Vedas, He knew what even scholars did not know... the original defintions. And this shows Guruji was not rejecting revealed Truth, Sruti. But He was correcting errors of teaching and degeneration which had crept into religion, because the Dharma was no longer standing on all it's legs. [COLOR="DarkRed"]Ek Ak Sara : The imperishable Oneness that created and subsumes the Om.[/COLOR] The very Sanskrit definition of Ekaksara from the Rig Veda (1.164.39), is identical with Ek Onkar. And it's from the definition of Pranava (“pronouncing”), another older term for AUMkar, and we see the origin of the anehadh Naad. Without the Omkar, there would be no Naad. And there would be no Shabad. And there would be no Naam. So Onkar MUST be Omkar. It cannot be anything else but the universal sound which is the voice of nirguna vibrating into sarguna and causing creation. AUM is creative, preserving and destroying principle. It is an entire system which renews itself. AUM is the Naad. Amrit Naad Upanishad. Guruji's philosophy and path to mukti comes from the Upanishads. [INDENT][COLOR="DarkRed"]ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਪਾਏ ਵੀਚਾਰਾ ॥ sathigur thae paaeae veechaaraa || From the True Guru, contemplative meditation is obtained. ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਸਚੇ ਘਰ ਬਾਰਾ ॥ sunn samaadhh sachae ghar baaraa || And then, one dwells with the True Lord in His celestial home, the Primal State of Absorption in Deepest Samaadhi. ਨਾਨਕ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਨਾਦੁ ਸਬਦ ਧੁਨਿ ਸਚੁ ਰਾਮੈ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੭॥੫॥੧੭॥ naanak niramal naadh sabadh dhhun sach raamai naam samaaeidhaa ||17||5||17|| O Nanak, the immaculate sound current of the Naad, and the Music of the Shabad resound; one merges into the True Name of the Lord. ||17||5||17|| ~SGGS Ji p. 1038[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Blue"]ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਅਨਹਤ ਤਹ ਨਾਦ ॥ sunn samaadhh anehath theh naadh || The Deepest Samaadhi, and the unstruck sound current of the Naad are there. ਕਹਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ਅਚਰਜ ਬਿਸਮਾਦ ॥ kehan n jaaee acharaj bisamaadh || The wonder and marvel of it cannot be described. ~SGGS Ji p. 293[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਨਉ ਦਰਵਾਜੇ ਦਸਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਾ ਅਨਹਦ ਸਬਦੁ ਵਜਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੩॥ no dharavaajae dhasavai mukathaa anehadh sabadh vajaavaniaa ||3|| Beyond the nine gates, the Tenth Gate is found, and liberation is obtained. The Unstruck Melody of the Shabad vibrates. ||3|| ~SGGS Ji p. 110[/COLOR][/INDENT] Here we see that the anehadh Shabad is from the Naad. [INDENT][COLOR="Indigo"]ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਬਦੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਹਰਿ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ anmrith sabadh anmrith har baanee || The Shabad is Amrit; the Lord's Bani is Amrit. ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਸੇਵਿਐ ਰਿਦੈ ਸਮਾਣੀ ॥ sathigur saeviai ridhai samaanee || Serving the True Guru, it permeates the heart. ~SGGS Ji p. 119[/COLOR][/INDENT] The anehad Naad vibrates from the nirguna, the anehad Shabad comes from the anehad Naad. Amrit comes from the Shabad. That is the relationship. [COLOR="Blue"]Eko Brahman. Eko Omkar.[/COLOR] Unfortunately in the Abrahamized West there are real misunderstandings as to the definitions of God. For example, probably no religious beliefs have been more abused or reviled than Hinduism by missionaries of every stripe seeking to prove pantheism is mythological and therefore false, and trying to prove their version of God is superior to all the gods of Hindu religion. With this backdrop, most Sikhs are now trying to do the same thing. So it isn't unusual to hear someone say the numeral 1 cancelled out the other 3, or that Oangkar isn't the same thing as Omkar and thus has no relationship to AUM. And if you ask these people to explain the concept of the Naad and Shabad... they can't. And the reason they can't, is they just negated the concept of Naad by eliminating the AUM. [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਪੰਚ ਸਬਦ ਤਹ ਪੂਰਨ ਨਾਦ ॥ panch sabadh theh pooran naadh || The Panch Shabad, the five primal sounds, echo the perfect sound current of the Naad. ਅਨਹਦ ਬਾਜੇ ਅਚਰਜ ਬਿਸਮਾਦ ॥ anehadh baajae acharaj bisamaadh || The wondrous, amazing unstruck melody vibrates. ~SGGS Ji p. 888[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Blue"]ਗੁਨਨਾਦਧੁਨਿਅਨੰਦਬੇਦ॥ gun naadh dhhun anandh baedh || The Glory of God is the Sound-current of the Naad, the Celestial Music of Bliss, and the Wisdom of the Vedas. ~SGGS Ji p. 1322[/COLOR][/INDENT] ~Bhul chak maaf karni ji [/QUOTE]
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