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The "Truth" Revealed. Its An Offense To Speak Punjabi At UNO
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<blockquote data-quote="Sinister" data-source="post: 108847" data-attributes="member: 2684"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Ok. Because of some free time I actually started pulling up some Data, anything I could find on this subject. According to the stats Punjab is one of the states with the lowest woman to man ratio (about 798 females for 1000 male). Haryana, then followed by the union of Dehli and also Gujurat take 2, 3, 4 respectively. And the current Sikh prime minister scolded them equally.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/pm-hits-out-at-punjab-gujarat-delhi-for-poor-sex-ratio_10042753.html" target="_blank">http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/pm-hits-out-at-punjab-gujarat-delhi-for-poor-sex-ratio_10042753.html</a></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">The data itself meets a consistency standard...because Punjab, Haryana and Delhi are more less similiar from language/culture perspective. If punjab was a .798 and haryana or delhi at say something completely off the chart like .999 then i would raise my eyebrows. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">The latest census I could find was the 2001 census published as a document. “2001 Census as Social Document”</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Pages 163- 164 onwards:</span></span></p><p><a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=h8BgGIFrd9MC&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=Inderjit+Singh%2Bcensus%2Bpunjab&source=bl&ots=TOcolDp3Zh&sig=CzDlCYFHTIDEkElerO73zqT6D-g&hl=en&ei=RYuASoGqKYG4Nd7_ueoC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=Inderjit%20Singh%2Bcensus%2Bpunjab&f=false" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://books.google.ca/books?id=h8BgGIFrd9MC&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=Inderjit+Singh%2Bcensus%2Bpunjab&source=bl&ots=TOcolDp3Zh&sig=CzDlCYFHTIDEkElerO73zqT6D-g&hl=en&ei=RYuASoGqKYG4Nd7_ueoC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=Inderjit%20Singh%2Bcensus%2Bpunjab&f=false</span></span></span></a></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">The statistics from Punjab were given to A. Kumar by the Director of Census Operations of Punjab, Mr. Inderjit Singh…made public in a press conference on March 30th 2001.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">SO FAR. I have NOT read in any document or in any Decennial Indian Census conducted by the GOI that reveals or states that Punjab is the leading state in Female foeticide and infanticide. Which leads to conclusion that “the assumption is made from simply viewing the abnormal sex ratio’s” by individuals.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">So, what are ALL the variables that can be responsible for the growing discrepancy in the sex ratio?</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">These are what I could think of:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Influx of male labor (for agriculture)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Female Infanticide/Foeticide</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Growth in Disease that targets Woman</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Discrimination against Woman…Dietary discrimination…causing shorter life expectancy </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Male vs Female homicide rates</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Male vs Female Suicide Rates</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Male vs Female emigration…Foreign Born ethnically Punjabi males traveling home for marriage more so than Foreign Born ethnically Punjabi Females. </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I did come over this canvassing study conducted by Dr. Ajinder Walia, titled Female Foeticide in Punjab: exploring the socio-economic and cultural dimensions.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">And her findings are rather disturbing and I highly doubt they have been initiated as some sort of anti-Sikh propaganda (she is sikh herself)</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">:</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?id=37" target="_blank">http://www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?id=37</a></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Who is Dr. Ajinder Walia?: <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">is Senior Research Officer at the National Institute of Disaster Management in India. She has a doctorate in Sociology and is actively working in the area of gender issues in Disaster Management. Her other areas of interest are Community Based Disaster Preparedness and Disaster Mental Health. She has a number of research publications to her credit in the area of declining sex ratio, female infanticide and foeticide and gender disparities.</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Contact: </span></span><a href="mailto:ajinder@ndim.net"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #0000ff">ajinder@ndim.net</span></span></span></a></span></span></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://nidm.gov.in/images/2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nidm.gov.in/ajindir.asp&usg=__ta0dzEhvp_VTqaLbbChZ44tTgOI=&h=150&w=98&sz=5&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=NmL2nBMK-E4quM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=63&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dajinder%2Bwalia%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://nidm.gov.in/images/2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nidm.gov.in/ajindir.asp&usg=__ta0dzEhvp_VTqaLbbChZ44tTgOI=&h=150&w=98&sz=5&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=NmL2nBMK-E4quM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=63&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dajinder%2Bwalia%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1</span></span></a></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">so in what way is the GOI involved in spreading what? And what is the myth? secondly no religious affiliation is mentioned in any census report...nor does any report try to correlate religious affiliation with sex ratio's. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">sorry ... i dont see motive...the conspiracy does not have legs.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">:advocate:</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sinister, post: 108847, member: 2684"] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Ok. Because of some free time I actually started pulling up some Data, anything I could find on this subject. According to the stats Punjab is one of the states with the lowest woman to man ratio (about 798 females for 1000 male). Haryana, then followed by the union of Dehli and also Gujurat take 2, 3, 4 respectively. And the current Sikh prime minister scolded them equally.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][URL]http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/pm-hits-out-at-punjab-gujarat-delhi-for-poor-sex-ratio_10042753.html[/URL][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]The data itself meets a consistency standard...because Punjab, Haryana and Delhi are more less similiar from language/culture perspective. If punjab was a .798 and haryana or delhi at say something completely off the chart like .999 then i would raise my eyebrows. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]The latest census I could find was the 2001 census published as a document. “2001 Census as Social Document”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Pages 163- 164 onwards:[/SIZE][/FONT] [URL="http://books.google.ca/books?id=h8BgGIFrd9MC&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=Inderjit+Singh%2Bcensus%2Bpunjab&source=bl&ots=TOcolDp3Zh&sig=CzDlCYFHTIDEkElerO73zqT6D-g&hl=en&ei=RYuASoGqKYG4Nd7_ueoC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=Inderjit%20Singh%2Bcensus%2Bpunjab&f=false"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]http://books.google.ca/books?id=h8BgGIFrd9MC&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=Inderjit+Singh%2Bcensus%2Bpunjab&source=bl&ots=TOcolDp3Zh&sig=CzDlCYFHTIDEkElerO73zqT6D-g&hl=en&ei=RYuASoGqKYG4Nd7_ueoC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=Inderjit%20Singh%2Bcensus%2Bpunjab&f=false[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]The statistics from Punjab were given to A. Kumar by the Director of Census Operations of Punjab, Mr. Inderjit Singh…made public in a press conference on March 30th 2001.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]SO FAR. I have NOT read in any document or in any Decennial Indian Census conducted by the GOI that reveals or states that Punjab is the leading state in Female foeticide and infanticide. Which leads to conclusion that “the assumption is made from simply viewing the abnormal sex ratio’s” by individuals.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]So, what are ALL the variables that can be responsible for the growing discrepancy in the sex ratio?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]These are what I could think of:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Influx of male labor (for agriculture)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Female Infanticide/Foeticide[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Growth in Disease that targets Woman[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Discrimination against Woman…Dietary discrimination…causing shorter life expectancy [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Male vs Female homicide rates[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Male vs Female Suicide Rates[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Male vs Female emigration…Foreign Born ethnically Punjabi males traveling home for marriage more so than Foreign Born ethnically Punjabi Females. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]I did come over this canvassing study conducted by Dr. Ajinder Walia, titled Female Foeticide in Punjab: exploring the socio-economic and cultural dimensions.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]And her findings are rather disturbing and I highly doubt they have been initiated as some sort of anti-Sikh propaganda (she is sikh herself)[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][URL]http://www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?id=37[/URL][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Who is Dr. Ajinder Walia?: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]is Senior Research Officer at the National Institute of Disaster Management in India. She has a doctorate in Sociology and is actively working in the area of gender issues in Disaster Management. Her other areas of interest are Community Based Disaster Preparedness and Disaster Mental Health. She has a number of research publications to her credit in the area of declining sex ratio, female infanticide and foeticide and gender disparities.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Contact: [/SIZE][/FONT][EMAIL="ajinder@ndim.net"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]ajinder@ndim.net[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/EMAIL][/FONT][/COLOR] [URL="http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://nidm.gov.in/images/2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nidm.gov.in/ajindir.asp&usg=__ta0dzEhvp_VTqaLbbChZ44tTgOI=&h=150&w=98&sz=5&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=NmL2nBMK-E4quM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=63&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dajinder%2Bwalia%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://nidm.gov.in/images/2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nidm.gov.in/ajindir.asp&usg=__ta0dzEhvp_VTqaLbbChZ44tTgOI=&h=150&w=98&sz=5&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=NmL2nBMK-E4quM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=63&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dajinder%2Bwalia%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1[/SIZE][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]so in what way is the GOI involved in spreading what? And what is the myth? secondly no religious affiliation is mentioned in any census report...nor does any report try to correlate religious affiliation with sex ratio's. [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]sorry ... i dont see motive...the conspiracy does not have legs.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman]:advocate:[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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