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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
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ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
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Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
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Ashtpadi (129-130)
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Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
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Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
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Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
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Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Tejwant Singh" data-source="post: 116926" data-attributes="member: 138"><p>Arshi ji,</p><p> </p><p> Guru Fateh.</p><p> </p><p> I want to apologise from the get go if my open-mindedness and quest to learn from the learned like you has caused any embarrassment. That was not the intention or the goal.</p><p> </p><p> It is worth repeating what I said in my initial post and mean every word of it i.e. I do not have the creativity nor the talent to embellish things, nor do I consider myself a Sikh scholar, a historian, an intellect, an academic or even a highly educated person and nor do I intend or pretend to be either of them. I am glad to be a seeker, a learner and a student who loves to think aloud and is not ashamed of asking questions to the fellow Sikhs in order to learn. Hence, I have no spiritual status whatsoever because that is not my goal or the objective. I am here to enjoy the journey on this Gurmat train and hope that this ride never comes to an end.</p><p> </p><p> Arshi ji, as mentioned before by me in many of the posts that Sikhi is the journey of the individual, thus each one of us carries our own spiritual torch. </p><p> </p><p> Only Ik Ong Kaar knows which milestone each of us is at. No one else can find that out, no matter how much or how often they try to play The One.</p><p> </p><p> There is also nothing sneaky about my questions nor am I putting you to any test-How dare I?</p><p></p><p> I am here to learn and interact and this forum and learned people like you make me gather my courage to ask the questions how basic they may be.</p><p> </p><p> I had never thought about these realms- Khands till I read your essay which made me thinking and was compelled to ask questions.</p><p> </p><p> Enough about me-ism, allow me to get back to the subject.</p><p> <strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></strong></p><p> Pardon my ignorance but can you define SOUL to me? </p><p></p><p>What is it? </p><p></p><p>Isn’t it just a clump of energy part of the ONE- Ajuni Sahibung- The Creative Energy? </p><p> </p><p> Can you also elaborate what you mean by the “elevated spiritual plane” where the same realm becomes perhaps tangible? </p><p></p><p>Does that mean that “elevated spiritual plane” is a physical-tangible place?</p><p> </p><p> But you did mention above that this may be a tangible place. So, it seems the relevance lies in your own response above.</p><p> </p><p> If the experience can not be shared then how can one learn from them?</p><p> Isn’t Sikhi about interacting and sharing? </p><p> Our Guru can reveal these to whom and how?</p><p> Does it become a hidden treasure- gupt khazaana for the individual to savour rather than to share with others who are less fortunate? </p><p></p><p>And if so, then is it part of the Gurmat ideals? </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Would you be kind enough to elaborate the above for me? </p><p> </p><p> When you say, “<em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Whilst many devtas (knowledgeable and spiritually evolved souls) </span></span><u><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>reside</strong></span></span></u></em><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> in this realm”,</span></span></em> then the Gian Khand- realm becomes a tangible physical place.</p><p> </p><p> Is that so?</p><p> </p><p> And I am a bit puzzled by the above that is in bold. Could you explain that in lay man’s terms?</p><p> </p><p> Lastly, let me reiterate again, that my post is purely for the interaction and learning process. There is no hidden agenda here.</p><p> </p><p> Thanks and regards.</p><p> </p><p> Tejwant Singh</p><p> <em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> </span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></em></p><p> <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/spiritual-articles/28344-the-five-realms.html" target="_blank"></a></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/spiritual-articles/28344-the-five-realms.html" target="_blank"></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tejwant Singh, post: 116926, member: 138"] Arshi ji, Guru Fateh. I want to apologise from the get go if my open-mindedness and quest to learn from the learned like you has caused any embarrassment. That was not the intention or the goal. It is worth repeating what I said in my initial post and mean every word of it i.e. I do not have the creativity nor the talent to embellish things, nor do I consider myself a Sikh scholar, a historian, an intellect, an academic or even a highly educated person and nor do I intend or pretend to be either of them. I am glad to be a seeker, a learner and a student who loves to think aloud and is not ashamed of asking questions to the fellow Sikhs in order to learn. Hence, I have no spiritual status whatsoever because that is not my goal or the objective. I am here to enjoy the journey on this Gurmat train and hope that this ride never comes to an end. Arshi ji, as mentioned before by me in many of the posts that Sikhi is the journey of the individual, thus each one of us carries our own spiritual torch. Only Ik Ong Kaar knows which milestone each of us is at. No one else can find that out, no matter how much or how often they try to play The One. There is also nothing sneaky about my questions nor am I putting you to any test-How dare I? I am here to learn and interact and this forum and learned people like you make me gather my courage to ask the questions how basic they may be. I had never thought about these realms- Khands till I read your essay which made me thinking and was compelled to ask questions. Enough about me-ism, allow me to get back to the subject. [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] Pardon my ignorance but can you define SOUL to me? What is it? Isn’t it just a clump of energy part of the ONE- Ajuni Sahibung- The Creative Energy? Can you also elaborate what you mean by the “elevated spiritual plane” where the same realm becomes perhaps tangible? Does that mean that “elevated spiritual plane” is a physical-tangible place? But you did mention above that this may be a tangible place. So, it seems the relevance lies in your own response above. If the experience can not be shared then how can one learn from them? Isn’t Sikhi about interacting and sharing? Our Guru can reveal these to whom and how? Does it become a hidden treasure- gupt khazaana for the individual to savour rather than to share with others who are less fortunate? And if so, then is it part of the Gurmat ideals? Would you be kind enough to elaborate the above for me? When you say, “[I][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Whilst many devtas (knowledgeable and spiritually evolved souls) [/FONT][/COLOR][U][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B]reside[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/I][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] in this realm”,[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] then the Gian Khand- realm becomes a tangible physical place. Is that so? And I am a bit puzzled by the above that is in bold. Could you explain that in lay man’s terms? Lastly, let me reiterate again, that my post is purely for the interaction and learning process. There is no hidden agenda here. Thanks and regards. Tejwant Singh [I][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/spiritual-articles/28344-the-five-realms.html"] [/URL] [/QUOTE]
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