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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 84468" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><strong>Re: Sikhism is not the same as Hinduism..or Islam, .....or Christianity.....etc</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Harjas Bhain ji,</strong></p><p> <strong> With no offense, I have found some of your conclusions totally baseless, some time I wonder how you can call your own Guru” a Vashnava” There is no solid proof of Guru Nanak’s initiation by any Vashnava, not a single proof where he himself states that actually Vashnava sect should by followed, contrary to it he addresses almost all kinds of sects and religions and inserted his own views if they some how resemble with Vashnava that doesn’t mean he was Vashnava. Calling a founder of Sikhism a Vashnava, it is nothing but displays of sheer ignorance. If Guru ji says “ we are not Hindus or Muslims” doesn’t it sufficient to refrain to judge Guru ji as Hindus or whatever/ If Gurus are not Hindus how their followers can be Hindus. Where is reason? I felt strongly, after turning seriously towards Sikhism, to live what Guru ji says and I noted down, tell me, why Guiru ji says” that Sikh I like who wakes up early and meditate on Him( Mehl-4), why Guru ji doesn’t say” that Vashnava or that Hindu I like who wakes up early and meditate”? Isn’t it irony that some thing forces you to prove only one thing that Sikhism is sanatam dharma. Why we need Sikhism any way if snatan dharma is there to satisfies us? In reality it is bundles of various sects and people are free to worship rates, monkeyes, Sun, Rivers etc. If Guru ji came only to correct Hinduism then why he got into dialogue with Yogis, Muslims? Why only he traveled so vast to see <u>Gurmukhs</u>, not <u>Vashnava or spiritual Hindus</u>( Sidh Gost?) He doesnt mention those words being enforced on him today.</strong></p><p> <strong>Where did he write that He didn’t wear Janeo because janeo was different than Brahamans? He condemns janeo in totality as a fake because it gets burnt when body is cremated, only real one goes with the soul because real one is truthful living. I humbly request kindly do not say those things about Guru Nanak who didn’t say so. One should respect Guru one believes in, as I quoted numerous times, forget about all others, or me, just read POURI 27,Maajh Ki Vaar, Guru himself says he was personally asked by the Lord to contemplate only His name and ask others to do which he did. Why didn’t he write that he followed sanatama, Hinduism or Vashnava then got enlightened? Why to cook stories to enforce the views out come of desperation of those who think, in Sikhism, a lot of good is found contrary to those found in Vedas like human sacrifice, inequality, gods running after each other wives etc etc. You or I will not be happy if some one level us what we are not, how this should be taken in context of Guru ji. Who are theses guys who are doing such propaganda, what is their establishment that they are able to judge Guru ji as Vashnava. After all, there should be limit of abuse. How any one justify ones own views by ignoring Guru’s own words about enlightenment? To yogis he says” I have no miracles but His Naam( Sidh Gost) Regarding castes, Gurbani clearly says” jaat da garbh na kareo koee(M-3), a full rejection of castes, so Sikhism is totally different in this concept too.. Why you are keep calling Him Vashnava? Did any where in Guru Granth Sahib Guru ji was called Vashnava? There is no concept of HUKAM in Vashnavas, no concept of His grace either. Concept of liberation is also looked at a different point of view. Even Vashnava has Gods with bodies, in Sikhism, God hasn’t a body, only His Nirgun form is pined for. You haven’t even proved Guru ji advocated Vashnava, how you can label him to be Vashnvaa. Calling Guru Nanak a Vishnu avtaar is also distortion because compliments are every where in Gurbani, for example, Sikh is called Guru in Gurbani, does it mean every Sikh is Guru? </strong></p><p><strong>[/FONT]</strong> <strong>Whatever you are talking is distortion; It continued for a while. People who saw Sikhs in seventeenth century, their way of living, their behavior towards others, called them totally separate from Hindus or Vashnava. Even Persian writers who hated Sikhs didn’t say a word about Sikhs a part of Hindus, in Mughal records Sikhs are known as Nanak panthi notVashnava or Hindus. Why? In another post you said” it is not believable that when Sikhs were hiding, they let Hindus take over their Dharmsalas.” Well History says so, during that time, </strong><strong>Massa</strong><strong> Ranghar kind of people took over Harmandar, why don’t you see it was possible. They were just trying to save themselves how would they control every thing, their heads were priced and people were hunting them, then why it is not possible that people in disguise took over Sikh Holy places and stayed there to make money and none of them were persecuted by Mughals? Isnt it amazing? it doesn’t make any sense that Guru ji was Avtar of Vishnu if Gurbani of Guru Nanak is read in totality. All those quotes are compliments, nothing more than that. One should at least once study Guru Granth Sahib completely before bad mouthing about Guru Nanak. From similarities you have gone further to convert him in to another sect. I have read all the quotes you have been giving, kindly read all those in context of that complete Shabad they were taken from, picture is different. Openly you blame Singh Sabha or western influence for distortion of Gurbani, lets forget Singh Sabha or its agenda, lets Bhain ji discuss that portion of Gurbani where you smell total Hinduism and see who are right with one condition, Guru Message must be kept in totality. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Whatever you are saying about people demanding separate state, how can you conclude they represent all Sikhs or Sikhism in its totality? A good Sikh must not hate Hindus, Muslims and people of other faiths. Sikhism teaches against caste (complete rejection), no worship of Sargun form but one Creator,<u> the Infinite who doesn’t take birth. This was also stressed by writing Mool mantra before every Shabad and Banis including Bhagatas in SGGS. Its repetition has meaning, there is no shabad without Mool mantra </u>When people leave old faith, to drag that faith back to them, is nothing more than injustice done against those individuals. When Hindus are questioned in this context, no one is criticizing Hindu public but only those so called Hindus who purposefully try to spread wrong message.</strong></p><p> <strong>For the Harmony between Sikhs and Hindus, we do not need to say that Sikhs are part of Hinduism, we must admit who ever is other than Sikhs deserve the same respect as Sikhs do, if any one thinks otherwise, doesn’t represent Sikhism for sure.</strong></p><p> Vaishnav philosophy was reform of the caste and varna system, from hereditary </p><p> separatism, to authentic spiritual hierarchy. In keeping with Vaishnav sants, believed and taught that the REAL Brahmin was the one who is devoted to love of God, and not some hereditary fiefdom. Gurbani is not entirely against caste. It is against caste discrimination and hereditary distinctions.</p><p> <strong>Sikhism totally rejects it. Guru ji went further by saying actually He lives in the lowest, that is rejection of the hypocrisy of being High caste.( Asa dee Vaar)</strong></p><p> <strong>Lets see below what Guru ji says to under stand why we do not like to be called Hindus., first stress is given on contemplating on Him</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੂਹੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਲਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%AB" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੫</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਸਰਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਹੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਤੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%82" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੂ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%82" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਬਹੂ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਥਾਨੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੇਰਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੇਹਾ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਠ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਹਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਤੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੁਧੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਿਆਈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B2" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਰਮਲ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੋਵੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇਹਾ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Suhi 5th Guru.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">What kind is that place of Thine, O Lord, where the mortal forgets Thee not ever,</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">and where he contemplates Thee throughout the eight watches and his body becomes pure?</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੇਰੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਾਮ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਉ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਥਾਨੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਲਣ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਇਆ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖੋਜਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖੋਜਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਇਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਧਸੰਗੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਰਣਾਈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਇਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਹਾਉ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">My Lord I have come to search that place.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Searching and searching, I found it to be the society of saints, whose sanctuary I have now entered. Pause.</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੇਦ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੜੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%9C%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੜਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਾਰੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇਕੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਲੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਹੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੀਮਤਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਧਿਕ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A7" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਧ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਫਿਰਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਿਲਲਾਤੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੋਹੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਾਈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Reading</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> and reciting the Vedas Brahma grew, He found not even a sesame's worth of God.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The strivers and adepts roam about wailing They too are bewitched by mammon.</span></span> </p><p> <strong>Look here Bhainji, it is not Singh Sabha or westerners to misguide us, see what is said above, those so called sargun forms of the Creators couldn’t find even a little of HIM. If so, how they become part of three murti concept and rule the spiritual world, if they don’t even know Him. Do you think it is a praise of these guys? Better than them were Kabir ji, Namdev ji. Neither wisdom of Veda could help them nor Braham, for use how much are they useful then? Why then Sikhs are part of this family of ten Avtaras, Brahma etc</strong></p><p> <strong>Here I am not speaking against Hindus or their Gods but simply saying Guru ji says that they just couldn’t know any thing about Him. If Brahma couldn’t do, Vedas couldn’t do, why these things are forced on Sikhs as wisdom or individuals of high super being to guide any one. Why Gurbani says Hindu is blind? It doesn’t ridicule them but is saying that they just stopped at His sargun Sroop as many so called Sikhs have.</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਸ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਉਤਾਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਾਜੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੋਇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਰਤੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B5" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਾਦੇਵ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਉਧੂਤਾ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਤੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%93" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਇਓ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੇਰਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਾਇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਥਕੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਿਭੂਤਾ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p></p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">There have been ten incarnations are Kings and forsakers like Shiva.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">They too found not thine limit, though some grew weary of smearing their body with ashes.</span></span> </p><p> <strong>Do you see that Bhain ji, how come these so called ten incarnations couldn’t even know Him, look at the pitiable condition of Shiva!, it is not Singh Sabha or me, it is Guru ji. Bottom line is this; Guru Message doesn’t ridicule any one but doesn’t either promote other avatars as worthy of taking guidance. Why some picked up portions from Geeta or Vedas are posted repeatedly when there is stuff that really doesn’t support peak of spirituality, actually it degrades humanity and it is not posted by you. Take example from Ramayana, Ram chander beheads low caste just because he was contemplating on Lord. No body talks about that. He sends his wife sita, for whom he fought for, to jungle because a washer man said woman was not worthy to keep in home after staying with other man</strong>, <strong>what kind of spiritual being he was who was taking guidance from an idiot. That is another problem why Sikhs just want to be called Sikhs, if you become part of combination of all sects( Hinduism), you have to put with all unacceptable views, and none is there like this in SGGS Ji.</strong></p><p> <strong>Lets see where Guru ji praises them and where discard them as no use to follow due to unacceptable traditions or rituals in them</strong></p><p> <strong>Aasa mehla 1 -12 </strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਾਗੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਸਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਲਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%A7" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%85" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਛਿਅ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਘਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%85" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਛਿਅ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%85" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਛਿਅ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਪਦੇਸ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਸ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਨੇਕ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Asa Measure, First Guru.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">There are six systems, six their teachers and six their doctrines.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">But the Teacher of teachers is but one Lord, though he has various vestures.</span></span> </p><p> <strong>Above hint is at acceptable truth, now look which is not acceptable</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>(920) </strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੁੰਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AA" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਪ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੀਚਾਰਦੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਤੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਤੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਣੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਾਝਹੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਤੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਹੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਣੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਸਾਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭ੍ਰਮਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਤਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਤਿਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰੈਣਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਹਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਿਰਪਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਗੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਨਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਸਿਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੋਲਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਹੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਤੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਏ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਸ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਨਦਿਨੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B5" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਿਵ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਾਗੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਗਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰੈਣਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਹਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨੭</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Simritis and Shastras discriminate between good and evil, but know not the essence of the Real Thing.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Without the Guru, they know not the essence of the Reality, know not the essence of the Reality.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The </span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">world is asleep in three modes and doubt, and in slumber its night(life) passes away.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">By Guru's grace, only those mortals keep awake, in whose mind the Lord abides and who utter the Nectar-word.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Says Nanak, he alone obtains quintessence, who ever remains merged in the Lord's love and passes his life-night awake</span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: Black">See Bhain ji, what kind of grading scripture of wisdom get from Guru ji</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span> </p><p> <strong> Even Bhagavat Geeta says so, means Hinduism is attacking Vedas</strong></p><p> <strong>ved vaadrta..parth ( Geeta 2-42)( imbued with the words of Veda, mind cannot contemplate on Lord)</strong></p><p> <strong>tregun visheea veda( Geeta 2-450 Vedas take to worldly three gunas)</strong></p><p> <strong>Guru ji says all including every one known in any religion is created by Him, that is it. Nothing more than that, it further says that all just sing at HIS door( SGGS 839) and like Ram, he created numerous, so don’t worship them but Him, there are many like Ram or Krishn, we don’t know(SGGS 464) Guru ji wants to follow that Guru who shows HIM every where and within. Not even any name of Vashnava sect member mentioned as” "Vashnave worth guiding any one." Gurbani simply mentions names of Bhagatas <u>without labeling them with any sect, don’t you get it</u>?. Gurmukh, Sikh are praised because they follow Guru to worship one Nirguna. Bhagatas were praised because they contemplated on Him. If names they use for Lord Sound Hindu, please read the whole shabad, it is not about Sargun form but nirgun form. All stress is to imbue with Nirgun form and move on, instead of indulging in worshiping sargun form. That was another reason Guru ji calls” burn mouth” who calls Nirguna takes birth.</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%9C" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਹਜ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%96" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੂਖ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A6" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਨੰਦ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਮ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਸ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਤੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੰਗਲੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਾਇਆ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%B2" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਫਲ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਰਸਨੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%93" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭੇਟਿਓ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਿਆਇਆ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪੯</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Poise, peace and bliss are in the Name Nectar, So the Lord's saints sing His praise.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Nanak has seen the accredited sight of the Guru and with his soul and body he has pondered over the Lord Master.</span></span> </p><p> <strong>Here is what Guru ji wants his followers to follow, period. No dreams, no imagination and no distortion of message I don’t care about what Singh Sabha or western interpretation is all about, I am just reading what Guru ji wrote here.</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੂਹੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਲਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%AB" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੫</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਮ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਰਮ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਖੰਡ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੀਸਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਮੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਗਾਤੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲੂਟੈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਰਬਾਣ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੀਰਤਨੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਾਵਹੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਤੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%96" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਮਖ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਮਰਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਤੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਛੂਟੈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p></p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Suhi 5th Guru.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The rituals, religious rites and hypocrisies, which are seen, them plunders Yama the tax-gatherer.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Sing thou the pure praise of the Creator, contemplating whom, even for a moment, thou shalt be emancipated.</span></span> </p><p> <strong>Guru Granth Sahib is all about Love of Creator and His creation and stresses on worshiping Him only</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਤਹੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਗਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਤਰੀਐ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਚਨੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਮਾਵੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਤਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਰਸਾਦੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਰੀਐ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਹਾਉ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">O saints, thus is crossed the world-ocean.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">He who practises the word of the saints, he is ferried across by Guru's Grace. Pause.</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੇਦ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%AC" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਤੇਬ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਸਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੜਿਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੁਕਤਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੋਈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਖਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਪੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਸ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B2" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਰਮਲ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋਈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">All the Vedas, the religious books of the Muslims, the Simirtis and Shastras, by reading these, salvation is not obtained.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">He, who by Guru's instruction utters the one Name; He gathers the pure glory.</span></span> </p><p> <strong>If Ved or Kuran/Bible were so important for Sikhs, why would Guru ji view them like this? If we accept they are good as you advocate, why Guru ji says otherwise, it means, regardless how good they are, they simply are not useful for a Guru follower. Does it mean we criticize Hindus, no, we are following what Guru said, period.</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖਤ੍ਰੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬ੍ਰਾਹਮਣ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%A6" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੂਦ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੈਸ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਪਦੇਸੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚਹੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਰਨਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਉ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9D%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਝਾ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਮੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਪੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਧਰੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਲਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਘਟਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਘਟਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9D%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਾਝਾ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੫੦</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> The four castes of warriors, priests, farmers and menials are equal partners in divine instruction. Nanak, he who under Guru's instruction utters the Name of God, who abides in all the hearts, is saved in the Dark-age. </p><p> <strong>Is Guru ji accepting four castes here? He is commenting on castes already existed. A lot of is being said through His sargun sroop, why every thing is not accepted by</strong></p><p> <strong>Guru ji then? Stone worshiping is condemned in Gurbani, that was also started by His Sargun form, then why to condemn stone worshiping as you say Caste system is made by Him as per Gurbani. Point Gurubani passes on is that all this is His play, one must make choices, Guru ji stood against all these, why? One needs to understand the context</strong></p><p><strong>[/FONT]</strong> <strong>of Guru’s message to decipher its depth. See below, Guru ji addresses only at His Sargun form, is Guru ji is not saying, close your eyes and follow all His Sargun Form because He created them?</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%89%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਉੜੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਣ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੰਧਰਬਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%9F" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖਟ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਰਸਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B5" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਵ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਕਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹੇਸਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A5" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਕਥ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਹਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋਗੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭੋਗੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਨਿਆਸੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਫਿਰੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਿਬਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਲਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੋਸਟਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਪਦੇਸੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%98%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਘੜੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਰੂਪੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਆਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪਣਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚੋਜੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਖੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭਨਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੀਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਣੀ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧੨</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Pauri.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Himself the Lord is the good man, heavenly herald and the celestial singer and Himself the utterer of the six schools of philosophy.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Lord Himself is the god of creation, the god of death and the god the nutrition. Through the Guru, He Himself narrates the unnarratable story.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">He Himself is the renunciator, Himself and enjoyer and Himself, becoming a solitarian, wanders about in wildernesses.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Lord discourses with himself, Himself He instructs and Himself is discreet, graceful and wise.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Staging His Play, He Himself beholds it. The Lord Himself is the knower of all the creatures.</span></span> </p><p> ( quote)</p><p>Christians are the followers Of Jesus</p><p></p><p>Muslims follow Mohammed</p><p></p><p>Buddhists follow Buddha</p><p></p><p>Hindu's follow ????</p><p></p><p>That is what makes this whole debate a nonsense.</p><p> <strong>I agree but I add one more thing, Sikhs follow Guru Nanak</strong></p><p> ( quote0 behaviour of a person does not define the philosophy of a religion “</p><p> <strong>Absolutely true, doubtless.</strong></p><p> I have been involved in Khalistani communities for quite some time. The issue is first, why do Sikhs keep interpreting malicious political oppresion of secular Congress Party as "Acts of ALL Hindus?" Founder of Arya Samaj is not voice of Hindus. </p><p> <strong>On what ground you are saying that Bhain ji?, people know that he is revered by Hindus. Are you aware of how many schools and colleges are being run in his name?</strong></p><p> He speaks for Arya Samaj. It is the illusion of <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/history-of-sikhism/22072-singh-sabha-movement.html" target="_blank">Singh Sabha</a> to paint their political opponents into corner as representative of entire Hindu Panth. Why do we continue this deceit?</p><p> <strong>I am not supporter of Singh Sabha, why I see Hindu fanatics and their attacks on every one other than Hindu. Why Hindutava? Why not Hindustantava, Bhartvarshtava? It is not only fanatics in Sikhism, also fustics in Hinduism who play all dirty game. </strong></p><p> And I don't understand why the <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/" target="_blank">Sikh</a> community continues to ignore such a volatile issue. Why is the general mainstream tacitly condoning and approving the worst attitudes of self-segregation and separatism and ignoring the terroristic implications of such divisions?</p><p> <strong> Why do you think bhain ji that all Sikhs are standing behind Khalistanis?</strong></p><p> Minority segments in the <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/" target="_blank">Sikh</a> population are actively praising and promoting terrorist acts as means to an end of achieving <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/" target="_blank">Sikh</a> independance, nationhood and Khalistan. Can we afford to be blind to the ramifications of what that means for India? For innocent Hindu populations? </p><p> <strong> If you say”Innocent Hindu population, innocent Sikh population, innocent Muslim population and innocent Christian population, <u>should be protected from fanatics found in Hindu population, Muslim population, Sikh population and Christian population” it would sound more reasonable</u></strong></p><p> </p><p> What kind of nationhood are we taking about that actively praises collaboration with radical elements of Al Qaeda in Pakistan and war with India?</p><p> Do they represent all Sikhs as Arya smaj doesn’t represent all Hindus</p><p> <strong>Very true, they are fanatics but do not blame only fanatic Sikhs( I am not supporting them but saying both play dirty games why to pick one to blame.) in this context because that is not fair approach either, Fanatics are never religious regardless the ties they have with any religion. After having said that for a record, Sikhs are not against Hindus, action brings reactions. Punjabi Hindu accepted Hindi as mother tongue while speaking Punjabi as their mother tongue. <u>Dont you think, it wouldn’t bring any reaction. It was politics not religions neither Hinduism nor Sikhism</u></strong></p><p> What's the harm in showing respect and tolerance to the Vedic ideology in Gurbani? </p><p> <strong>What do you want Bhain ji? What Sikhs should do with Vedas? What should we do with Athrva Veda in which obscenity and human sacrifice is advocated? The only time when their Gods are questioned when they force their sects on us saying you are Hindus otherwise we respect them. I feel no Sikh hates people of other faiths, if any does; he/she is not Sikh.</strong></p><p> <strong>Are Sikhs going to Hindu temples and ridiculing them? I just cannot understand what do you want from a Sikh to please Hindus only?</strong></p><p> </p><p> What's the harm in praising the good things in Hindu religion? </p><p> <strong>Muslims praise their religion, Christian praise their religions, Hindus praise their religions, so do Sikhs, what is wrong with any of them after all, faiths are basically good for spirituality.</strong></p><p> What's the harm in acknowledging a brotherhood between Sikhs and Hindus?</p><p> <strong>Who are those Sikhs who are against Hindu public? If you see, they are not Sikhs</strong></p><p><strong>[/FONT]</strong> Why harmony can be brought by saying we are part of Hinduism?</p><p> <strong>Why harmony cannot be brought by saying we are not Hindus as we are not Muslims Why only Hindus are important to bring Harmony? What about Muslims? Christians and others?</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>All Vashnava Gods have bodies but Sikhs God has no body, He doesn’t take birth, so doesn’t die, no specific form, in simple words Sikhs worship only His Nirgun form; here is the essence of Sikhism in simple words, no three conceptual powers, no Gods with bodies but HIM formless means Nirguna.</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕਮ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕੰਕਾਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਰਾਲਾ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਮਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਜੋਨੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਤਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਲਾ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਗਮ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਗੋਚਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰੂਪੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰੇਖਿਆ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖੋਜਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖੋਜਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਘਟਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਘਟਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇਖਿਆ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਿਖਾਵੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਸ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਉ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਲਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਰਸਾਦਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਰਮ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਦੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The first (Lunar day): The Unique Lord is Peerless, Immortal, Unborn,</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">and without caste and involvement.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">He is Unapproachable and Unapprehensible and has no form or outline.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Searching and searching, I have seen Him in all the hearts.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Devoted am I unto him, who sees and makes others see the Lord.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">By Guru's grace I have obtained the Supreme status.</span></span> </p><p> <strong>So when you call me a part of Hinduism, I feel, you are enforcing numerous gods, devtas and others things on me; however, when you call me a Sikh, I have Guru and the eternal Infinite who is beyond birth. Being a Sikh I reject all that they worship and do as religious practices but it doesn’t mean I am anti Hindus. As they are free to worship whatever they think is all right, we Sikhs should be left alone to live as followers of Guru Nanak</strong>. <strong>Thanks</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 84468, member: 5889"] [b]Re: Sikhism is not the same as Hinduism..or Islam, .....or Christianity.....etc[/b] [B]Harjas Bhain ji,[/B] [B] With no offense, I have found some of your conclusions totally baseless, some time I wonder how you can call your own Guru” a Vashnava” There is no solid proof of Guru Nanak’s initiation by any Vashnava, not a single proof where he himself states that actually Vashnava sect should by followed, contrary to it he addresses almost all kinds of sects and religions and inserted his own views if they some how resemble with Vashnava that doesn’t mean he was Vashnava. Calling a founder of Sikhism a Vashnava, it is nothing but displays of sheer ignorance. If Guru ji says “ we are not Hindus or Muslims” doesn’t it sufficient to refrain to judge Guru ji as Hindus or whatever/ If Gurus are not Hindus how their followers can be Hindus. Where is reason? I felt strongly, after turning seriously towards Sikhism, to live what Guru ji says and I noted down, tell me, why Guiru ji says” that Sikh I like who wakes up early and meditate on Him( Mehl-4), why Guru ji doesn’t say” that Vashnava or that Hindu I like who wakes up early and meditate”? Isn’t it irony that some thing forces you to prove only one thing that Sikhism is sanatam dharma. Why we need Sikhism any way if snatan dharma is there to satisfies us? In reality it is bundles of various sects and people are free to worship rates, monkeyes, Sun, Rivers etc. If Guru ji came only to correct Hinduism then why he got into dialogue with Yogis, Muslims? Why only he traveled so vast to see [U]Gurmukhs[/U], not [U]Vashnava or spiritual Hindus[/U]( Sidh Gost?) He doesnt mention those words being enforced on him today.[/B] [B]Where did he write that He didn’t wear Janeo because janeo was different than Brahamans? He condemns janeo in totality as a fake because it gets burnt when body is cremated, only real one goes with the soul because real one is truthful living. I humbly request kindly do not say those things about Guru Nanak who didn’t say so. One should respect Guru one believes in, as I quoted numerous times, forget about all others, or me, just read POURI 27,Maajh Ki Vaar, Guru himself says he was personally asked by the Lord to contemplate only His name and ask others to do which he did. Why didn’t he write that he followed sanatama, Hinduism or Vashnava then got enlightened? Why to cook stories to enforce the views out come of desperation of those who think, in Sikhism, a lot of good is found contrary to those found in Vedas like human sacrifice, inequality, gods running after each other wives etc etc. You or I will not be happy if some one level us what we are not, how this should be taken in context of Guru ji. Who are theses guys who are doing such propaganda, what is their establishment that they are able to judge Guru ji as Vashnava. After all, there should be limit of abuse. How any one justify ones own views by ignoring Guru’s own words about enlightenment? To yogis he says” I have no miracles but His Naam( Sidh Gost) Regarding castes, Gurbani clearly says” jaat da garbh na kareo koee(M-3), a full rejection of castes, so Sikhism is totally different in this concept too.. Why you are keep calling Him Vashnava? Did any where in Guru Granth Sahib Guru ji was called Vashnava? There is no concept of HUKAM in Vashnavas, no concept of His grace either. Concept of liberation is also looked at a different point of view. Even Vashnava has Gods with bodies, in Sikhism, God hasn’t a body, only His Nirgun form is pined for. You haven’t even proved Guru ji advocated Vashnava, how you can label him to be Vashnvaa. Calling Guru Nanak a Vishnu avtaar is also distortion because compliments are every where in Gurbani, for example, Sikh is called Guru in Gurbani, does it mean every Sikh is Guru? [/FONT][/B] [B]Whatever you are talking is distortion; It continued for a while. People who saw Sikhs in seventeenth century, their way of living, their behavior towards others, called them totally separate from Hindus or Vashnava. Even Persian writers who hated Sikhs didn’t say a word about Sikhs a part of Hindus, in Mughal records Sikhs are known as Nanak panthi notVashnava or Hindus. Why? In another post you said” it is not believable that when Sikhs were hiding, they let Hindus take over their Dharmsalas.” Well History says so, during that time, [/B][B]Massa[/B][B] Ranghar kind of people took over Harmandar, why don’t you see it was possible. They were just trying to save themselves how would they control every thing, their heads were priced and people were hunting them, then why it is not possible that people in disguise took over Sikh Holy places and stayed there to make money and none of them were persecuted by Mughals? Isnt it amazing? it doesn’t make any sense that Guru ji was Avtar of Vishnu if Gurbani of Guru Nanak is read in totality. All those quotes are compliments, nothing more than that. One should at least once study Guru Granth Sahib completely before bad mouthing about Guru Nanak. From similarities you have gone further to convert him in to another sect. I have read all the quotes you have been giving, kindly read all those in context of that complete Shabad they were taken from, picture is different. Openly you blame Singh Sabha or western influence for distortion of Gurbani, lets forget Singh Sabha or its agenda, lets Bhain ji discuss that portion of Gurbani where you smell total Hinduism and see who are right with one condition, Guru Message must be kept in totality. [/B] [B]Whatever you are saying about people demanding separate state, how can you conclude they represent all Sikhs or Sikhism in its totality? A good Sikh must not hate Hindus, Muslims and people of other faiths. Sikhism teaches against caste (complete rejection), no worship of Sargun form but one Creator,[U] the Infinite who doesn’t take birth. This was also stressed by writing Mool mantra before every Shabad and Banis including Bhagatas in SGGS. Its repetition has meaning, there is no shabad without Mool mantra [/U]When people leave old faith, to drag that faith back to them, is nothing more than injustice done against those individuals. When Hindus are questioned in this context, no one is criticizing Hindu public but only those so called Hindus who purposefully try to spread wrong message.[/B] [B]For the Harmony between Sikhs and Hindus, we do not need to say that Sikhs are part of Hinduism, we must admit who ever is other than Sikhs deserve the same respect as Sikhs do, if any one thinks otherwise, doesn’t represent Sikhism for sure.[/B] Vaishnav philosophy was reform of the caste and varna system, from hereditary separatism, to authentic spiritual hierarchy. In keeping with Vaishnav sants, believed and taught that the REAL Brahmin was the one who is devoted to love of God, and not some hereditary fiefdom. Gurbani is not entirely against caste. It is against caste discrimination and hereditary distinctions. [B]Sikhism totally rejects it. Guru ji went further by saying actually He lives in the lowest, that is rejection of the hypocrisy of being High caste.( Asa dee Vaar)[/B] [B]Lets see below what Guru ji says to under stand why we do not like to be called Hindus., first stress is given on contemplating on Him[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੂਹੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਲਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%AB"][FONT=Raavi]੫[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਸਰਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਹੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%82"][FONT=Raavi]ਤੂ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%82"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਬਹੂ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਥਾਨੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਤੇਰਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕੇਹਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A0"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਠ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਹਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਤੁਧੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਧਿਆਈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B2"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਰਮਲ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੋਵੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਹਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Suhi 5th Guru.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]What kind is that place of Thine, O Lord, where the mortal forgets Thee not ever,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]and where he contemplates Thee throughout the eight watches and his body becomes pure?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੇਰੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਾਮ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਉ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਥਾਨੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%A3"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਲਣ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਖੋਜਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਖੋਜਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਧਸੰਗੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਰਣਾਈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5"][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਹਾਉ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]My Lord I have come to search that place.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Searching and searching, I found it to be the society of saints, whose sanctuary I have now entered. Pause.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੇਦ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੜੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%9C%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੜਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਾਰੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਇਕੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਲੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਹੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਕੀਮਤਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਧਿਕ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A7"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਧ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਫਿਰਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਿਲਲਾਤੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਤੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਭੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੋਹੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਾਈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Reading[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma] and reciting the Vedas Brahma grew, He found not even a sesame's worth of God.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The strivers and adepts roam about wailing They too are bewitched by mammon.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B]Look here Bhainji, it is not Singh Sabha or westerners to misguide us, see what is said above, those so called sargun forms of the Creators couldn’t find even a little of HIM. If so, how they become part of three murti concept and rule the spiritual world, if they don’t even know Him. Do you think it is a praise of these guys? Better than them were Kabir ji, Namdev ji. Neither wisdom of Veda could help them nor Braham, for use how much are they useful then? Why then Sikhs are part of this family of ten Avtaras, Brahma etc[/B] [B]Here I am not speaking against Hindus or their Gods but simply saying Guru ji says that they just couldn’t know any thing about Him. If Brahma couldn’t do, Vedas couldn’t do, why these things are forced on Sikhs as wisdom or individuals of high super being to guide any one. Why Gurbani says Hindu is blind? It doesn’t ridicule them but is saying that they just stopped at His sargun Sroop as many so called Sikhs have.[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਦਸ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਉਤਾਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਾਜੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੋਇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਰਤੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B5"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਾਦੇਵ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਉਧੂਤਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਭੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%93"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਇਓ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਤੇਰਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਲਾਇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਥਕੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਿਭੂਤਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]There have been ten incarnations are Kings and forsakers like Shiva.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]They too found not thine limit, though some grew weary of smearing their body with ashes.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B]Do you see that Bhain ji, how come these so called ten incarnations couldn’t even know Him, look at the pitiable condition of Shiva!, it is not Singh Sabha or me, it is Guru ji. Bottom line is this; Guru Message doesn’t ridicule any one but doesn’t either promote other avatars as worthy of taking guidance. Why some picked up portions from Geeta or Vedas are posted repeatedly when there is stuff that really doesn’t support peak of spirituality, actually it degrades humanity and it is not posted by you. Take example from Ramayana, Ram chander beheads low caste just because he was contemplating on Lord. No body talks about that. He sends his wife sita, for whom he fought for, to jungle because a washer man said woman was not worthy to keep in home after staying with other man[/B], [B]what kind of spiritual being he was who was taking guidance from an idiot. That is another problem why Sikhs just want to be called Sikhs, if you become part of combination of all sects( Hinduism), you have to put with all unacceptable views, and none is there like this in SGGS Ji.[/B] [B]Lets see where Guru ji praises them and where discard them as no use to follow due to unacceptable traditions or rituals in them[/B] [B]Aasa mehla 1 -12 [/B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਾਗੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਸਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਲਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%A7"][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%85"][FONT=Raavi]ਛਿਅ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਘਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%85"][FONT=Raavi]ਛਿਅ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%85"][FONT=Raavi]ਛਿਅ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਉਪਦੇਸ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਕੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਸ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਨੇਕ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Asa Measure, First Guru.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]There are six systems, six their teachers and six their doctrines.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]But the Teacher of teachers is but one Lord, though he has various vestures.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B]Above hint is at acceptable truth, now look which is not acceptable[/B] [B](920) [/B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੁੰਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AA"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਪ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੀਚਾਰਦੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਤੈ[/FONT] 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[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਿਰਪਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਤੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਗੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਨਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਸਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੋਲਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਾਣੀ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਹੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਏ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਸ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਨੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਨਦਿਨੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B5"][FONT=Raavi]ਲਿਵ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਲਾਗੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਗਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਰੈਣਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਹਾਣੀ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੨੭[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The Simritis and Shastras discriminate between good and evil, but know not the essence of the Real Thing.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Without the Guru, they know not the essence of the Reality, know not the essence of the Reality.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]world is asleep in three modes and doubt, and in slumber its night(life) passes away.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]By Guru's grace, only those mortals keep awake, in whose mind the Lord abides and who utter the Nectar-word.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Says Nanak, he alone obtains quintessence, who ever remains merged in the Lord's love and passes his life-night awake[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma].[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=Black]See Bhain ji, what kind of grading scripture of wisdom get from Guru ji[/COLOR] [/FONT][/COLOR] [B] Even Bhagavat Geeta says so, means Hinduism is attacking Vedas[/B] [B]ved vaadrta..parth ( Geeta 2-42)( imbued with the words of Veda, mind cannot contemplate on Lord)[/B] [B]tregun visheea veda( Geeta 2-450 Vedas take to worldly three gunas)[/B] [B]Guru ji says all including every one known in any religion is created by Him, that is it. Nothing more than that, it further says that all just sing at HIS door( SGGS 839) and like Ram, he created numerous, so don’t worship them but Him, there are many like Ram or Krishn, we don’t know(SGGS 464) Guru ji wants to follow that Guru who shows HIM every where and within. Not even any name of Vashnava sect member mentioned as” "Vashnave worth guiding any one." Gurbani simply mentions names of Bhagatas [U]without labeling them with any sect, don’t you get it[/U]?. Gurmukh, Sikh are praised because they follow Guru to worship one Nirguna. Bhagatas were praised because they contemplated on Him. If names they use for Lord Sound Hindu, please read the whole shabad, it is not about Sargun form but nirgun form. All stress is to imbue with Nirgun form and move on, instead of indulging in worshiping sargun form. That was another reason Guru ji calls” burn mouth” who calls Nirguna takes birth.[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%9C"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਹਜ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%96"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੂਖ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A6"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਨੰਦ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਮ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਸ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੰਤੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੰਗਲੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਾਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%B2"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਫਲ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਦਰਸਨੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%93"][FONT=Raavi]ਭੇਟਿਓ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਧਿਆਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੪[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੪੯[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Poise, peace and bliss are in the Name Nectar, So the Lord's saints sing His praise.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Nanak has seen the accredited sight of the Guru and with his soul and body he has pondered over the Lord Master.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B]Here is what Guru ji wants his followers to follow, period. No dreams, no imagination and no distortion of message I don’t care about what Singh Sabha or western interpretation is all about, I am just reading what Guru ji wrote here.[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੂਹੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਲਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%AB"][FONT=Raavi]੫[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਮ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਧਰਮ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A1"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਖੰਡ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੀਸਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਮੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਗਾਤੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਲੂਟੈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਰਬਾਣ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਕੀਰਤਨੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਾਵਹੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਤੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%96"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਮਖ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਮਰਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਛੂਟੈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Suhi 5th Guru.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The rituals, religious rites and hypocrisies, which are seen, them plunders Yama the tax-gatherer.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Sing thou the pure praise of the Creator, contemplating whom, even for a moment, thou shalt be emancipated.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B]Guru Granth Sahib is all about Love of Creator and His creation and stresses on worshiping Him only[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੰਤਹੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਗਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90"][FONT=Raavi]ਉਤਰੀਐ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਕੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਚਨੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਮਾਵੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੰਤਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਰਸਾਦੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਰੀਐ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5"][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਹਾਉ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]O saints, thus is crossed the world-ocean.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]He who practises the word of the saints, he is ferried across by Guru's Grace. Pause.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੇਦ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%AC"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਤੇਬ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਭਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਸਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9"][FONT=Raavi]ਇਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੜਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੁਕਤਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੋਈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਕੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਖਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਪੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਸ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਕੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B2"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਰਮਲ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋਈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]All the Vedas, the religious books of the Muslims, the Simirtis and Shastras, by reading these, salvation is not obtained.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]He, who by Guru's instruction utters the one Name; He gathers the pure glory.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B]If Ved or Kuran/Bible were so important for Sikhs, why would Guru ji view them like this? If we accept they are good as you advocate, why Guru ji says otherwise, it means, regardless how good they are, they simply are not useful for a Guru follower. Does it mean we criticize Hindus, no, we are following what Guru said, period.[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਖਤ੍ਰੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A3"][FONT=Raavi]ਬ੍ਰਾਹਮਣ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%A6"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੂਦ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਵੈਸ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਉਪਦੇਸੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਚਹੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਰਨਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਉ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9D%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਝਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਮੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਪੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਉਧਰੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਲਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਘਟਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਘਟਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9D%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਾਝਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੪[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੫੦[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] The four castes of warriors, priests, farmers and menials are equal partners in divine instruction. Nanak, he who under Guru's instruction utters the Name of God, who abides in all the hearts, is saved in the Dark-age. [B]Is Guru ji accepting four castes here? He is commenting on castes already existed. A lot of is being said through His sargun sroop, why every thing is not accepted by[/B] [B]Guru ji then? Stone worshiping is condemned in Gurbani, that was also started by His Sargun form, then why to condemn stone worshiping as you say Caste system is made by Him as per Gurbani. Point Gurubani passes on is that all this is His play, one must make choices, Guru ji stood against all these, why? One needs to understand the context [/FONT][/B] [B]of Guru’s message to decipher its depth. See below, Guru ji addresses only at His Sargun form, is Guru ji is not saying, close your eyes and follow all His Sargun Form because He created them?[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%89%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਉੜੀ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A3"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਣ[/FONT] 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[/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਚੋਜੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਖੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਭਨਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੀਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਣੀ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧੨[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Pauri.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Himself the Lord is the good man, heavenly herald and the celestial singer and Himself the utterer of the six schools of philosophy.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The Lord Himself is the god of creation, the god of death and the god the nutrition. Through the Guru, He Himself narrates the unnarratable story.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]He Himself is the renunciator, Himself and enjoyer and Himself, becoming a solitarian, wanders about in wildernesses.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The Lord discourses with himself, Himself He instructs and Himself is discreet, graceful and wise.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Staging His Play, He Himself beholds it. The Lord Himself is the knower of all the creatures.[/FONT][/COLOR] ( quote) Christians are the followers Of Jesus Muslims follow Mohammed Buddhists follow Buddha Hindu's follow ???? That is what makes this whole debate a nonsense. [B]I agree but I add one more thing, Sikhs follow Guru Nanak[/B] ( quote0 behaviour of a person does not define the philosophy of a religion “ [B]Absolutely true, doubtless.[/B] I have been involved in Khalistani communities for quite some time. The issue is first, why do Sikhs keep interpreting malicious political oppresion of secular Congress Party as "Acts of ALL Hindus?" Founder of Arya Samaj is not voice of Hindus. [B]On what ground you are saying that Bhain ji?, people know that he is revered by Hindus. Are you aware of how many schools and colleges are being run in his name?[/B] He speaks for Arya Samaj. It is the illusion of [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/history-of-sikhism/22072-singh-sabha-movement.html"]Singh Sabha[/URL] to paint their political opponents into corner as representative of entire Hindu Panth. Why do we continue this deceit? [B]I am not supporter of Singh Sabha, why I see Hindu fanatics and their attacks on every one other than Hindu. Why Hindutava? Why not Hindustantava, Bhartvarshtava? It is not only fanatics in Sikhism, also fustics in Hinduism who play all dirty game. [/B] And I don't understand why the [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/"]Sikh[/URL] community continues to ignore such a volatile issue. Why is the general mainstream tacitly condoning and approving the worst attitudes of self-segregation and separatism and ignoring the terroristic implications of such divisions? [B] Why do you think bhain ji that all Sikhs are standing behind Khalistanis?[/B] Minority segments in the [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/"]Sikh[/URL] population are actively praising and promoting terrorist acts as means to an end of achieving [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/"]Sikh[/URL] independance, nationhood and Khalistan. Can we afford to be blind to the ramifications of what that means for India? For innocent Hindu populations? [B] If you say”Innocent Hindu population, innocent Sikh population, innocent Muslim population and innocent Christian population, [U]should be protected from fanatics found in Hindu population, Muslim population, Sikh population and Christian population” it would sound more reasonable[/U][/B] What kind of nationhood are we taking about that actively praises collaboration with radical elements of Al Qaeda in Pakistan and war with India? Do they represent all Sikhs as Arya smaj doesn’t represent all Hindus [B]Very true, they are fanatics but do not blame only fanatic Sikhs( I am not supporting them but saying both play dirty games why to pick one to blame.) in this context because that is not fair approach either, Fanatics are never religious regardless the ties they have with any religion. After having said that for a record, Sikhs are not against Hindus, action brings reactions. Punjabi Hindu accepted Hindi as mother tongue while speaking Punjabi as their mother tongue. [U]Dont you think, it wouldn’t bring any reaction. It was politics not religions neither Hinduism nor Sikhism[/U][/B] What's the harm in showing respect and tolerance to the Vedic ideology in Gurbani? [B]What do you want Bhain ji? What Sikhs should do with Vedas? What should we do with Athrva Veda in which obscenity and human sacrifice is advocated? The only time when their Gods are questioned when they force their sects on us saying you are Hindus otherwise we respect them. I feel no Sikh hates people of other faiths, if any does; he/she is not Sikh.[/B] [B]Are Sikhs going to Hindu temples and ridiculing them? I just cannot understand what do you want from a Sikh to please Hindus only?[/B] What's the harm in praising the good things in Hindu religion? [B]Muslims praise their religion, Christian praise their religions, Hindus praise their religions, so do Sikhs, what is wrong with any of them after all, faiths are basically good for spirituality.[/B] What's the harm in acknowledging a brotherhood between Sikhs and Hindus? [B]Who are those Sikhs who are against Hindu public? If you see, they are not Sikhs [/FONT][/B] Why harmony can be brought by saying we are part of Hinduism? [B]Why harmony cannot be brought by saying we are not Hindus as we are not Muslims Why only Hindus are important to bring Harmony? What about Muslims? Christians and others?[/B] [B]All Vashnava Gods have bodies but Sikhs God has no body, He doesn’t take birth, so doesn’t die, no specific form, in simple words Sikhs worship only His Nirgun form; here is the essence of Sikhism in simple words, no three conceptual powers, no Gods with bodies but HIM formless means Nirguna.[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਕਮ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਕੰਕਾਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਰਾਲਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] 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[/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਗੋਚਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਰੂਪੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਰੇਖਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਖੋਜਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਖੋਜਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਘਟਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਘਟਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਖਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਖਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਦਿਖਾਵੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਸ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਉ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਲਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਰਸਾਦਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਰਮ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਦੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The first (Lunar day): The Unique Lord is Peerless, Immortal, Unborn,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]and without caste and involvement.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]He is Unapproachable and Unapprehensible and has no form or outline.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Searching and searching, I have seen Him in all the hearts.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Devoted am I unto him, who sees and makes others see the Lord.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]By Guru's grace I have obtained the Supreme status.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B]So when you call me a part of Hinduism, I feel, you are enforcing numerous gods, devtas and others things on me; however, when you call me a Sikh, I have Guru and the eternal Infinite who is beyond birth. Being a Sikh I reject all that they worship and do as religious practices but it doesn’t mean I am anti Hindus. As they are free to worship whatever they think is all right, we Sikhs should be left alone to live as followers of Guru Nanak[/B]. [B]Thanks[/B] [/QUOTE]
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