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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Hersh3" data-source="post: 222062" data-attributes="member: 25309"><p>Question: did the Guru meditate and enjoin meditation upon his followers?</p><p></p><p>The brief answer to your question is— Yes. Just read Mandukya upnishad (7th of total 12 mantras). </p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is a detailed answer …</p><p>Brahm is that from which this created world arises (Ishopnishad) and into which it dissolves (Kathopnishad). The param Brahma is nirgun-nirakar and out of time, Ishvar (param Brahma + prakriti) is sagun-nirakar, Viraat is the cosmos with time included (all space time). </p><p></p><p>Hukum might be like “Dharma”, but Param Brahm is the source of Dharma too. </p><p></p><p>The creation has five aspects: aakash, vayu, agni, aap (“water”), and prithvi. And five Gunas (shabd, sparsh, tej, taste, and smell). </p><p></p><p>The Sikh shabd might be “Aumkaar”. In Advait, shabd is equated to the immanent universe. </p><p></p><p>Shabd (possibility, the seed of creation) is the essential attribute of Aakash (space), sparsh of vayu (awareness, non-physical Guna), tej (Revelatory, equates to information) of agni, ras (taste or essence, equates to experience) of water, and gandh (equates to attachment to experience) of earth. </p><p></p><p>To worship Shabd is to worship Viraat— universe in the expressed and incarnate form. That is the worship shown in the Gita, when Krishna appears in his viraat form to Arjuna. It is the immanent and accessible divinity. According to Gaudapad’s reading of Mandukya, this is the divinity of the waking state. It is the “A” of the aumkara. </p><p></p><p>In Advait, the three levels of divinity are not hierarchical. No one says that one is superior to another. Ishopnishad clearly asserts that the source and the product are both equally divine (“poorna”). </p><p></p><p>Aum (the sound, with its silence included) is equated to Parambrahm in Maundukya upnishad. “A” + “U” + “M” + “ ”. </p><p></p><p>A is the same divinity as the immanent universe. U is the sookshm (सूक्ष्म; non-physical, i.e., informational) universe, but considered created. “M” is the creator, and is depicted as prakriti+brahm (aka Ishvar), and is an obscure concept. It is the result of the power of maya.</p><p></p><p>The silence that follows AUM (and precedes the next if you’re chanting) is the param brahm. </p><p></p><p>This mapping or equation of aum to the four realities is for the purposes of meditative attainment of mukti. If you’re not into meditation, all this is irrelevant. </p><p></p><p>The Wrishis (equivalent to Guru) are revered, but not worshipped. Their authority in spiritual revelation is not challenged, but they are not infallible or divine. They are human, like you and I. They have sex, get angry, forget, etc. </p><p></p><p>Hope this helps. </p><p></p><p>I have no intent to influence or convert. Sikhism is a great religion. If a son of mine became a Sikh, I’d love him no less, and maybe the more. If I can say this as a Hindu— wahe Guru. 🕉</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hersh3, post: 222062, member: 25309"] Question: did the Guru meditate and enjoin meditation upon his followers? The brief answer to your question is— Yes. Just read Mandukya upnishad (7th of total 12 mantras). Here is a detailed answer … Brahm is that from which this created world arises (Ishopnishad) and into which it dissolves (Kathopnishad). The param Brahma is nirgun-nirakar and out of time, Ishvar (param Brahma + prakriti) is sagun-nirakar, Viraat is the cosmos with time included (all space time). Hukum might be like “Dharma”, but Param Brahm is the source of Dharma too. The creation has five aspects: aakash, vayu, agni, aap (“water”), and prithvi. And five Gunas (shabd, sparsh, tej, taste, and smell). The Sikh shabd might be “Aumkaar”. In Advait, shabd is equated to the immanent universe. Shabd (possibility, the seed of creation) is the essential attribute of Aakash (space), sparsh of vayu (awareness, non-physical Guna), tej (Revelatory, equates to information) of agni, ras (taste or essence, equates to experience) of water, and gandh (equates to attachment to experience) of earth. To worship Shabd is to worship Viraat— universe in the expressed and incarnate form. That is the worship shown in the Gita, when Krishna appears in his viraat form to Arjuna. It is the immanent and accessible divinity. According to Gaudapad’s reading of Mandukya, this is the divinity of the waking state. It is the “A” of the aumkara. In Advait, the three levels of divinity are not hierarchical. No one says that one is superior to another. Ishopnishad clearly asserts that the source and the product are both equally divine (“poorna”). Aum (the sound, with its silence included) is equated to Parambrahm in Maundukya upnishad. “A” + “U” + “M” + “ ”. A is the same divinity as the immanent universe. U is the sookshm (सूक्ष्म; non-physical, i.e., informational) universe, but considered created. “M” is the creator, and is depicted as prakriti+brahm (aka Ishvar), and is an obscure concept. It is the result of the power of maya. The silence that follows AUM (and precedes the next if you’re chanting) is the param brahm. This mapping or equation of aum to the four realities is for the purposes of meditative attainment of mukti. If you’re not into meditation, all this is irrelevant. The Wrishis (equivalent to Guru) are revered, but not worshipped. Their authority in spiritual revelation is not challenged, but they are not infallible or divine. They are human, like you and I. They have sex, get angry, forget, etc. Hope this helps. I have no intent to influence or convert. Sikhism is a great religion. If a son of mine became a Sikh, I’d love him no less, and maybe the more. If I can say this as a Hindu— wahe Guru. 🕉 [/QUOTE]
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