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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member4" data-source="post: 85621" data-attributes="member: 6184"><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">So what is your point here?</span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Okay lets look what the shabad is saying. God’s name exist in each and every hair of mine. Some can say the shabad is saying God exist everywhere. But one word changes everything here. “Mine” meaning my hair. So God exist in your and my hair. Now if I cut this hair does that bring me closer to God or further? Just this action alone all other factors stay the same. Then read the next line. </span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The Perfect True Guru has given me this gift. || 1 ||</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">What gift is Guru ji referring to here? The gift of the lord’s name. The lord’s name is a gift from the True Guru and this naam permeates on every hair of mine then this hair that is on our body’s is of some use. It must have something really special about it but some do not know why it is so special. </span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Quote:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Originally Posted by <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Singh</span></strong> <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-youth/19409-regarding-sikh-girls-13.html#post85543" target="_blank"><img src="http://file:///C:/DOCUME~1/HP_ADM~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">He gives Support to the unsupported. The</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Name of the Lord is the Wealth of the poor. The Lord of the Universe is the Master of the masterless; the Beautiful-haired Lord</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">is the Power of the weak. The Lord is Merciful to all beings, Eternal and Unchanging, the Family of the meek and humble. The</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">All-knowing, Perfect, Primal Lord God is the Lover of His devotees, the Embodiment of Mercy.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">-1356-</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Its on ang 1355 near the end and at the top of 1356. Just look more carefully, you’ll find it.</span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">All I wanted to share with you here was that Guru ji is describing Waheguru with beautiful-hair. </span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Originally Posted by <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Singh</span></strong> <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-youth/19409-regarding-sikh-girls-13.html#post85543" target="_blank"><img src="http://file:///C:/DOCUME~1/HP_ADM~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The Supreme Lord God, the Transcendent, Luminous Lord, dwells in each and every heart. Nanak begs for this blessing from</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">the Merciful Lord, that he may never forget Him, never forget Him. || 21 ||ang 1356</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Well not really, the shabad is on the same ang as the top one 1355-1356. So once again be more careful before you rush to a conclusion. </span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Kabeer, be in love with only that one, whose Master is the Lord. The Pandits, the religious scholars, kings and landlords. what good is love for them? || 24 || Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart. You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. || 25 || Kabeer, the world is a room filled with black soot; the blind fall into its trap. I am a sacrifice to those who are thrown in, and still escape. || 26 || Kabeer, this body shall perish; save it, if you can. Even those who have tens of thousands and millions, must depart bare-footed in the end. || 27 || ang 1365</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">To understand these shabads look at what Kabeer ji is saying first. Kabeer is saying nothing else matters when you are in love with the Lord. Only the one matters. Also he is saying do not get caught up in worldly affairs so much that you forget about the overall goal. </span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Keeping the hair or cutting the hair can distract a person from the ultimate goal in life. The hair creates an issue for an instance cutting it every time takes time trying to making it look good for yourself or others can start eating at the person. The person constantly alters the hair to be perceived in a certain way and the person then gets tired of that look and moves on to another. This will also be changed in time. nowthe person is caught up in the maya of hair and beauty and forgets the Lord. The person starts going to hair salons spending unbelievable amount of time and money to worry about something that will turn into dust anyway. Also the one that keeps his hair can be doing the same thing. Constantly worrying about how it looks spending so much time trying to make it look good and then forgetting the ultimate goal in life. This theory works in both cases but keeping your hair is the better choice from the two because it was Guru Gobind Sinh Sahibs hukam, the Gurus kept their hair and the science also lead us to believe hair does bring us closer to the Lord. </span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">These shabads are on at the end of ang 149 and at the top of ang 150. I wait for your response on this one.</span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Just showing that God abides on every hair and the hair has use and should be kept to find out that use. Otherwise Guru ji would have not put this in. Yes it is a trend and it has meaning my friend. The only thing is we humans do not know the meaning of this trend. Just because it is a trend we should not put it in the back and think nothing of it for the line has reason and meaning.</span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Hold up, read the Shabad one more time with an open mind. Lol yes it is getting repetitive which is the point. In the Sri Guru Granth Sahib the Guru tells us to repeat the lords name over and over and this gets repetitive and I don’t see you taking it so lightly. The Guru repeats what they want us to understand so easily. Now if one cuts the hair off the body then how can that person mediate on that hair. That person has loosed the opportunity to mediate on that hair. Now if we are told to constantly mediate on the lord and we take away the hair that also mediates on the lord does that make us better off or worse off? </span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The lord is described with hair and it has meaning to it like I said above.</span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Look at it again and see why the Guru is so specific when he says who should be called in to read the sermon of the lord. The long-haired scholarly saints are the one he specifies to read the sermon of the lord. Not the one that shave their head bald, but the ones with long-hair. And it does help the reader realize hair should be kept. Because the shabad is saying only the pure one’s are to read the lord’s sermon when the Guru is gone from this earth.</span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">What! All Gurus kept their hair long. Look what the last shabad that I explained says. This is a total shock to me that you would think that any of the Guru would cut their hair. The Gurus Sikhs laid their lifes down because they were told to cut there hair. Here you say there is no proof. Truly astonishing. </span></span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dalsingh ji nicely said. But a few things I would like to point out.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">When the question of hair arises in Sikhism like it has now it should be explored. Just pushing it aside is when one person can make a mistakes and end up telling others there is no use of hair. Yes arguing over the issue like animals will get you no where and only hurt the people spiritually in the longrun. Also for a person with kesh to bash a mona is wrong and the cause of this bashing is judging the person without getting to know him/her. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I totally agree people progress spiritually at there own pace, but again this issue has been brought up and it should be explored. I know it gets repetitive to bring it up over and over again but to ignore it is a mistake. The person asking the question does not know the facts and is asking for help. And for us to ignore the person would be really stupid of us. Why not share what you know of the great lord with others. It is the greatest gift one can give to another.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member4, post: 85621, member: 6184"] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]So what is your point here?[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Okay lets look what the shabad is saying. God’s name exist in each and every hair of mine. Some can say the shabad is saying God exist everywhere. But one word changes everything here. “Mine” meaning my hair. So God exist in your and my hair. Now if I cut this hair does that bring me closer to God or further? Just this action alone all other factors stay the same. Then read the next line. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The Perfect True Guru has given me this gift. || 1 ||[/SIZE][/FONT] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]What gift is Guru ji referring to here? The gift of the lord’s name. The lord’s name is a gift from the True Guru and this naam permeates on every hair of mine then this hair that is on our body’s is of some use. It must have something really special about it but some do not know why it is so special. [/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Tahoma]Quote:[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Originally Posted by [B][FONT=Verdana]Singh[/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-youth/19409-regarding-sikh-girls-13.html#post85543"][IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME~1/HP_ADM~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman]He gives Support to the unsupported. The[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman]Name of the Lord is the Wealth of the poor. The Lord of the Universe is the Master of the masterless; the Beautiful-haired Lord[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman]is the Power of the weak. The Lord is Merciful to all beings, Eternal and Unchanging, the Family of the meek and humble. The[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman]All-knowing, Perfect, Primal Lord God is the Lover of His devotees, the Embodiment of Mercy.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman]-1356-[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Its on ang 1355 near the end and at the top of 1356. Just look more carefully, you’ll find it.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]All I wanted to share with you here was that Guru ji is describing Waheguru with beautiful-hair. [/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Originally Posted by [B][FONT=Verdana]Singh[/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-youth/19409-regarding-sikh-girls-13.html#post85543"][IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME~1/HP_ADM~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman]The Supreme Lord God, the Transcendent, Luminous Lord, dwells in each and every heart. Nanak begs for this blessing from[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman]the Merciful Lord, that he may never forget Him, never forget Him. || 21 ||ang 1356[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Well not really, the shabad is on the same ang as the top one 1355-1356. So once again be more careful before you rush to a conclusion. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Kabeer, be in love with only that one, whose Master is the Lord. The Pandits, the religious scholars, kings and landlords. what good is love for them? || 24 || Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart. You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. || 25 || Kabeer, the world is a room filled with black soot; the blind fall into its trap. I am a sacrifice to those who are thrown in, and still escape. || 26 || Kabeer, this body shall perish; save it, if you can. Even those who have tens of thousands and millions, must depart bare-footed in the end. || 27 || ang 1365[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]To understand these shabads look at what Kabeer ji is saying first. Kabeer is saying nothing else matters when you are in love with the Lord. Only the one matters. Also he is saying do not get caught up in worldly affairs so much that you forget about the overall goal. [/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Keeping the hair or cutting the hair can distract a person from the ultimate goal in life. The hair creates an issue for an instance cutting it every time takes time trying to making it look good for yourself or others can start eating at the person. The person constantly alters the hair to be perceived in a certain way and the person then gets tired of that look and moves on to another. This will also be changed in time. nowthe person is caught up in the maya of hair and beauty and forgets the Lord. The person starts going to hair salons spending unbelievable amount of time and money to worry about something that will turn into dust anyway. Also the one that keeps his hair can be doing the same thing. Constantly worrying about how it looks spending so much time trying to make it look good and then forgetting the ultimate goal in life. This theory works in both cases but keeping your hair is the better choice from the two because it was Guru Gobind Sinh Sahibs hukam, the Gurus kept their hair and the science also lead us to believe hair does bring us closer to the Lord. [/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [B][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]These shabads are on at the end of ang 149 and at the top of ang 150. I wait for your response on this one.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Just showing that God abides on every hair and the hair has use and should be kept to find out that use. Otherwise Guru ji would have not put this in. Yes it is a trend and it has meaning my friend. The only thing is we humans do not know the meaning of this trend. Just because it is a trend we should not put it in the back and think nothing of it for the line has reason and meaning.[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Hold up, read the Shabad one more time with an open mind. Lol yes it is getting repetitive which is the point. In the Sri Guru Granth Sahib the Guru tells us to repeat the lords name over and over and this gets repetitive and I don’t see you taking it so lightly. The Guru repeats what they want us to understand so easily. Now if one cuts the hair off the body then how can that person mediate on that hair. That person has loosed the opportunity to mediate on that hair. Now if we are told to constantly mediate on the lord and we take away the hair that also mediates on the lord does that make us better off or worse off? [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]The lord is described with hair and it has meaning to it like I said above.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Look at it again and see why the Guru is so specific when he says who should be called in to read the sermon of the lord. The long-haired scholarly saints are the one he specifies to read the sermon of the lord. Not the one that shave their head bald, but the ones with long-hair. And it does help the reader realize hair should be kept. Because the shabad is saying only the pure one’s are to read the lord’s sermon when the Guru is gone from this earth.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]What! All Gurus kept their hair long. Look what the last shabad that I explained says. This is a total shock to me that you would think that any of the Guru would cut their hair. The Gurus Sikhs laid their lifes down because they were told to cut there hair. Here you say there is no proof. Truly astonishing. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=blue][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dalsingh ji nicely said. But a few things I would like to point out.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]When the question of hair arises in Sikhism like it has now it should be explored. Just pushing it aside is when one person can make a mistakes and end up telling others there is no use of hair. Yes arguing over the issue like animals will get you no where and only hurt the people spiritually in the longrun. Also for a person with kesh to bash a mona is wrong and the cause of this bashing is judging the person without getting to know him/her. [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]I totally agree people progress spiritually at there own pace, but again this issue has been brought up and it should be explored. I know it gets repetitive to bring it up over and over again but to ignore it is a mistake. The person asking the question does not know the facts and is asking for help. And for us to ignore the person would be really stupid of us. Why not share what you know of the great lord with others. It is the greatest gift one can give to another.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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