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<blockquote data-quote="BhagatSingh" data-source="post: 140446" data-attributes="member: 2610"><p><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">No Talib's translation does't make sense with regards to:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span> <table cellspacing="5"><tbody><tr><td><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਅਖਰੀ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਨਾਮੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਅਖਰੀ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9" target="_blank">ਸਾਲਾਹ </a> ॥</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">अखरी नामु अखरी सालाह ॥</span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">Akẖrī nām akẖrī sālāh.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">From the Word, comes the Naam; from the Word, comes Your Praise.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> </td></tr> <tr><td> <span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਅਖਰੀ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਗਿਆਨੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank">ਗੀਤ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank">ਗੁਣ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9" target="_blank">ਗਾਹ </a> ॥</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">अखरी गिआनु गीत गुण गाह ॥</span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">Akẖrī gi▫ān gīṯ guṇ gāh.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">From the Word, comes spiritual wisdom, singing the Songs of Your Glory.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> </td></tr> <tr><td> <span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਅਖਰੀ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਲਿਖਣੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਬੋਲਣੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਬਾਣਿ </a> ॥</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">अखरी लिखणु बोलणु बाणि ॥</span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">Akẖrī likẖaṇ bolaṇ bāṇ.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">From the Word, come the written and spoken words and hymns.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> </td></tr> <tr><td> <span style="color: Red"><strong><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਅਖਰਾ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਸਿਰਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਸੰਜੋਗੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਵਖਾਣਿ </a> ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">अखरा सिरि संजोगु वखाणि ॥</span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Akẖrā sir sanjog vakẖāṇ.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 10px">From the Word, comes destiny, written on one's forehead.</span></span></strong></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> </td></tr> <tr><td> <span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਜਿਨਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਏਹਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਲਿਖੇ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਤਿਸੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਸਿਰਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਨਾਹਿ </a> ॥</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">जिनि एहि लिखे तिसु सिरि नाहि ॥</span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">Jin ehi likẖe ṯis sir nāhi.</span></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">But the One who wrote these Words of Destiny-no words are written on His Forehead.</span></span></span> </td></tr></tbody></table><span style="color: Black"></span></p><p><span style="color: Black"></span> <span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black">I think Puarhi 19 might be talking about the "THE word" as in God's word because there are other references to this in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=3&english=t&id=127#l127" target="_blank"><u>Page 3, Line 16</u></a></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਕੀਤਾ ਪਸਾਉ ਏਕੋ ਕਵਾਉ ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">कीता पसाउ एको कवाउ ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">Kīṯā pasā▫o eko kavā▫o.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">You created the vast expanse of the Universe with One <strong>Word</strong>!</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"><strong>Guru Nanak Dev</strong></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"> - </span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=3&L=16&id=127" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span></span><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span> <span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black">Here, the gurmukhi "kwao" - to say - becomes word.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=4&english=t&id=188#l188" target="_blank"><u>Page 4, Line 16</u></a></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਸੁਅਸਤਿ ਆਥਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਬਰਮਾਉ ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">सुअसति आथि बाणी बरमाउ ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">Su▫asaṯ āth baṇī barmā▫o.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red">I bow to the Lord of the World, to His <strong>Word</strong>, to Brahma the Creator.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"><strong>Guru Nanak Dev</strong></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"> - </span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Red"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=4&L=16&id=188" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span></span><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span> <span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black">Here "bani" is translated as the word. (So different gurmukhi words can be used to mean God's word.)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black"></span></span> <span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black">I did a search a search on Sikhism and creation through word. I found in the New Testament God creates through an eternal word. Then something else caught my eye...</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>The Rig Veda's view of the cosmos also sees one true divine principle self-projecting as the divine word, <em>Vaak</em></strong></span><span style="color: Red"><strong>,</strong> 'birthing' the cosmos that we know, from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monistic" target="_blank">monistic</a> <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiranyagarbha" target="_blank">Hiranyagarbha</a></em> or Golden Womb. The <em>Hiranyagarbha</em> is alternatively viewed as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma" target="_blank">Brahma</a>, the creator who was in turn created by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God" target="_blank">God</a>, or as God (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman" target="_blank">Brahman</a>) himself. The universe is considered to constantly expand since creation and disappear into a thin haze after billions of years.<sup style="white-space: nowrap;" title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from October 2010" class="Template-Fact">[<em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" target="_blank">citation needed</a></em>]</sup> An alternate view is that the universe begins to contract after reaching its maximum expansion limits until it disappears into a fraction of a millimeter.<sup style="white-space: nowrap;" title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from October 2010" class="Template-Fact">[<em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" target="_blank">citation needed</a></em>]</sup> The creation begins anew after billions of years (Solar years) of non-existence.</span></p><p> <span style="color: Red">The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purana" target="_blank">puranic</a> view asserts that the universe is created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles. In Hindu cosmology, a universe endures for about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbers_in_Hindu_scriptures" target="_blank">4,320,000,000 years</a> (one <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Brahma" target="_blank">day of Brahma</a>, the creator or <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa" target="_blank">kalpa</a></em>) and is then destroyed by fire or water elements. At this point, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma" target="_blank">Brahma</a> rests for one night, just as long as the day. This process, named <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pralaya" target="_blank">pralaya</a></em> (<em>Cataclysm</em>), repeats for 100 Brahma years (311 trillion human years) that represents Brahma's lifespan. It must be noted that Brahma is the creator but not necessarily regarded as God in Hinduism. He is mostly regarded as a creation of God / <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman" target="_blank">Brahman</a>. </span></p><p><span style="color: Red">.....</span> <span style="color: Black">Under "religious cosmology"</span></p><p><span style="color: Black"></span></p><p><span style="color: Black">So I wondered, is Naam somehow related to Om of Hinduism?</span></p><p><span style="color: Black"></span><span style="color: Red">The syllable <em>aum</em> is first described as all-encompassing mystical entity in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads" target="_blank">Upanishads</a>. Today, in all Hindu art and all over <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India" target="_blank">India</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal" target="_blank">Nepal</a>, 'aum' can be seen virtually everywhere, a common sign for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism" target="_blank">Hinduism</a> and its <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_philosophy" target="_blank">philosophy</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_theology" target="_blank">theology</a>. Before creation began it was "Shunyākāsha", the emptiness or the void. Shunyākāsha, meaning literally "no sky", is more than nothingness, because everything then existed in a latent state of potentiality. <strong>The vibration of "AUM" symbolizes the manifestation of God in form ("sāguna brahman").</strong> <strong>The mantra "AUM" is the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_God" target="_blank">name of God</a>, the vibration of the Supreme.</strong> When taken letter by letter, A-U-M represents the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divine_energy&action=edit&redlink=1" target="_blank">divine energy</a> (Shakti) united in its three elementary aspects: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bhrahma_Shakti_%28creation%29&action=edit&redlink=1" target="_blank">Bhrahma Shakti (creation)</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vishnu_Shakti_%28preservation%29&action=edit&redlink=1" target="_blank">Vishnu Shakti (preservation)</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shiva_Shakti_%28liberation,_and/or_destruction%29&action=edit&redlink=1" target="_blank">Shiva Shakti (liberation, and/or destruction)</a>.<sup class="Template-Fact" title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from November 2010" style="white-space: nowrap;">[<em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" target="_blank">citation needed</a></em>]</sup></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: Black">.... Under "OM"</span></p><p></p><p>Reminded me of this:</p><p><span style="color: Black">Looking at all that, I think its plausible that Guru Nanak is talking about God creating the cosmos with one word, and so naam comes from this word. The naam is manifested in the word-created-universe.</span><span style="color: Red"> <span style="color: Black">The created universe IS the Sargun Form of God.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BhagatSingh, post: 140446, member: 2610"] [COLOR=Red][SIZE=2][COLOR=Black]No Talib's translation does't make sense with regards to:[/COLOR][/SIZE] [/COLOR] <table cellspacing="5"><tbody><tr><td>[FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80"]ਅਖਰੀ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81"]ਨਾਮੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80"]ਅਖਰੀ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9"]ਸਾਲਾਹ [/URL] ॥[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]अखरी नामु अखरी सालाह ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]Akẖrī nām akẖrī sālāh.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]From the Word, comes the Naam; from the Word, comes Your Praise.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] </td></tr> <tr><td> [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80"]ਅਖਰੀ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"]ਗਿਆਨੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%A4"]ਗੀਤ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A3"]ਗੁਣ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9"]ਗਾਹ [/URL] ॥[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]अखरी गिआनु गीत गुण गाह ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]Akẖrī gi▫ān gīṯ guṇ gāh.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]From the Word, comes spiritual wisdom, singing the Songs of Your Glory.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] </td></tr> <tr><td> [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80"]ਅਖਰੀ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%81"]ਲਿਖਣੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%81"]ਬੋਲਣੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF"]ਬਾਣਿ [/URL] ॥[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]अखरी लिखणु बोलणु बाणि ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]Akẖrī likẖaṇ bolaṇ bāṇ.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]From the Word, come the written and spoken words and hymns.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] </td></tr> <tr><td> [COLOR=Red][B][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"]ਅਖਰਾ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"]ਸਿਰਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"]ਸੰਜੋਗੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF"]ਵਖਾਣਿ [/URL] ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]अखरा सिरि संजोगु वखाणि ॥[/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=2]Akẖrā sir sanjog vakẖāṇ.[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=2]From the Word, comes destiny, written on one's forehead.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] </td></tr> <tr><td> [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"]ਜਿਨਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"]ਏਹਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%87"]ਲਿਖੇ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81"]ਤਿਸੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"]ਸਿਰਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"]ਨਾਹਿ [/URL] ॥[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]जिनि एहि लिखे तिसु सिरि नाहि ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]Jin ehi likẖe ṯis sir nāhi.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]But the One who wrote these Words of Destiny-no words are written on His Forehead.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] </td></tr></tbody></table>[COLOR=Black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Red][COLOR=Black]I think Puarhi 19 might be talking about the "THE word" as in God's word because there are other references to this in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. [/COLOR] [/COLOR] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=3&english=t&id=127#l127"][U]Page 3, Line 16[/U][/URL] [/COLOR][/SIZE][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]ਕੀਤਾ ਪਸਾਉ ਏਕੋ ਕਵਾਉ ॥[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]कीता पसाउ एको कवाउ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]Kīṯā pasā▫o eko kavā▫o.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]You created the vast expanse of the Universe with One [B]Word[/B]![/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red][B]Guru Nanak Dev[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] - [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=3&L=16&id=127"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Red][COLOR=Black]Here, the gurmukhi "kwao" - to say - becomes word.[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Red][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=4&english=t&id=188#l188"][U]Page 4, Line 16[/U][/URL] [/COLOR][/SIZE][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]ਸੁਅਸਤਿ ਆਥਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਬਰਮਾਉ ॥[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]सुअसति आथि बाणी बरमाउ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]Su▫asaṯ āth baṇī barmā▫o.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]I bow to the Lord of the World, to His [B]Word[/B], to Brahma the Creator.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red][B]Guru Nanak Dev[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red] - [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=Red][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=4&L=16&id=188"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Red][COLOR=Black]Here "bani" is translated as the word. (So different gurmukhi words can be used to mean God's word.)[/COLOR] [COLOR=Black] [/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red][COLOR=Black]I did a search a search on Sikhism and creation through word. I found in the New Testament God creates through an eternal word. Then something else caught my eye...[/COLOR] [B]The Rig Veda's view of the cosmos also sees one true divine principle self-projecting as the divine word, [I]Vaak[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=Red][B],[/B] 'birthing' the cosmos that we know, from the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monistic"]monistic[/url] [I][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiranyagarbha"]Hiranyagarbha[/url][/I] or Golden Womb. The [I]Hiranyagarbha[/I] is alternatively viewed as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma"]Brahma[/url], the creator who was in turn created by [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God"]God[/url], or as God ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman"]Brahman[/url]) himself. The universe is considered to constantly expand since creation and disappear into a thin haze after billions of years.<sup style="white-space: nowrap;" title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from October 2010" class="Template-Fact">[[I][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/url][/I]]</sup> An alternate view is that the universe begins to contract after reaching its maximum expansion limits until it disappears into a fraction of a millimeter.<sup style="white-space: nowrap;" title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from October 2010" class="Template-Fact">[[I][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/url][/I]]</sup> The creation begins anew after billions of years (Solar years) of non-existence. The [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purana"]puranic[/url] view asserts that the universe is created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles. In Hindu cosmology, a universe endures for about [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbers_in_Hindu_scriptures"]4,320,000,000 years[/url] (one [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Brahma"]day of Brahma[/url], the creator or [I][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa"]kalpa[/url][/I]) and is then destroyed by fire or water elements. At this point, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma"]Brahma[/url] rests for one night, just as long as the day. This process, named [I][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pralaya"]pralaya[/url][/I] ([I]Cataclysm[/I]), repeats for 100 Brahma years (311 trillion human years) that represents Brahma's lifespan. It must be noted that Brahma is the creator but not necessarily regarded as God in Hinduism. He is mostly regarded as a creation of God / [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman"]Brahman[/url]. .....[/COLOR] [COLOR=Black]Under "religious cosmology" So I wondered, is Naam somehow related to Om of Hinduism? [/COLOR][COLOR=Red]The syllable [I]aum[/I] is first described as all-encompassing mystical entity in the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads"]Upanishads[/url]. Today, in all Hindu art and all over [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal"]Nepal[/url], 'aum' can be seen virtually everywhere, a common sign for [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism"]Hinduism[/url] and its [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_philosophy"]philosophy[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_theology"]theology[/url]. Before creation began it was "Shunyākāsha", the emptiness or the void. Shunyākāsha, meaning literally "no sky", is more than nothingness, because everything then existed in a latent state of potentiality. [B]The vibration of "AUM" symbolizes the manifestation of God in form ("sāguna brahman").[/B] [B]The mantra "AUM" is the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_God"]name of God[/url], the vibration of the Supreme.[/B] When taken letter by letter, A-U-M represents the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divine_energy&action=edit&redlink=1"]divine energy[/URL] (Shakti) united in its three elementary aspects: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bhrahma_Shakti_%28creation%29&action=edit&redlink=1"]Bhrahma Shakti (creation)[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vishnu_Shakti_%28preservation%29&action=edit&redlink=1"]Vishnu Shakti (preservation)[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shiva_Shakti_%28liberation,_and/or_destruction%29&action=edit&redlink=1"]Shiva Shakti (liberation, and/or destruction)[/URL].<sup class="Template-Fact" title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from November 2010" style="white-space: nowrap;">[[I][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/url][/I]]</sup>[/COLOR] [COLOR=Black].... Under "OM"[/COLOR] Reminded me of this: [COLOR=Black]Looking at all that, I think its plausible that Guru Nanak is talking about God creating the cosmos with one word, and so naam comes from this word. The naam is manifested in the word-created-universe.[/COLOR][COLOR=Red] [COLOR=Black]The created universe IS the Sargun Form of God.[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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