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<blockquote data-quote="Original" data-source="post: 207237" data-attributes="member: 14400"><p> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><br /> <span style="color: #0000ff">Original said [OS</span>]:Good morning Bhagat Singh - let us enjoy vichar dhara [chewing shabd for the juicy bits]. </li> </ol> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><br /> <span style="color: #ff00ff">Bhagat said [BS]:</span> This is not the case.</li> </ol><p><span style="color: #0000ff">OS</span>..it never was cited as being the case. It is incidental amongst many others of the same that Baba Nanak was entertaining at the time when he put his pen to paper. The rationale behind it was to dismiss the inherent institutional separatism between the two giants, Hinduism and Islam.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff"> BS</span>; Onkar mean - the one vibrating Aum.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">OS</span>..agree</p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/goto/post?id=207234#post-207234" target="_blank"><u>↑</u></a></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff"> BS</span>: That's it. It is already absolutely 1</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">OS</span>..question ? Why did Baba Ji use figure one [1] and not the literal one [Ek] ?<a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/goto/post?id=207234#post-207234" target="_blank"><u>↑</u></a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff"> BS</span>: even before you add another 1 to it.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">OS</span>..from a metaphysical perspective, there is <strong>more</strong>. That is to say "what is reality and beyond"?</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Is it the table and chairs that are real, or is it the wood, the tree, the earth, the solar system, the cosmos, the universe [General theory of relativity] <strong>?</strong></li> </ol><p> 2. Or indeed, is it the constituent parts which the naked eye cannot see that make up the table and chairs, namely, atoms, molecules, electrons, protons, neutrons .....all the way to gluons which holds them together [Quantum Mechanics] <strong>?</strong></p><p>"No", said Nanak [from an ideology perspective] ! There is <strong>more</strong> !</p><p></p><p>For Nanak to explain the <strong>"more"</strong> aspect of reality he used the "1" over the EK. Nanak's drive was towards the OM [Anhad Shabd, unstruck sound] which is behind the symbolic ॐ, and yes, you're probably right when you infer of it being graphically associated with ੴ [#12, above]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff">BS</span>: Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma are the names of the Supreme Being in three different Philosophies - Shaivism, Vaishavism and lastly , "Brahmnism" (which is simply known as Vedant today</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">OS</span>..confirmed !</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff00ff">BS</span>: Three separate monotheistic philosophies.</strong></p><p>Similar to Allah, Yahweh, Waheguru, Vishnu, Shiv, Brahma, Indra etc. That's what they mean (or what they originally meant, it's a really long storey</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">OS</span>..allow me to shorten it a little ! India as you know is multi in everything, religion and dialect is no exception. You've got the Sanatan, idol worship [Hindu] and the Sami free of idol worship [Islam]. The latter dedicated to the spoken word, and Nanak of course, bang in the middle ! Hmm, what to do, thought Nanak ! "Eureka moment", Nanak comes up with a classic to establish an immutable unity between the two. On the one hand he introduces the without attributes, the formless God [Nirgun, 1] and on the other, with attributes and form God [Sargun, ੴ ]. This is confirmed on page 290 of SGGSJ, thus, <strong>ਸਰਗੁਨ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧੀ ਆਪਿ ॥ ਆਪਨ ਕੀਆ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਫਿਰਿ ਜਾਪਿ ॥ </strong>The 1 before the onkar in this instance [*there are several] is to denote it "spirituality" for that is the foundation of Gurmat's spiritualism. Moreover, where Islam believes in the formless existence, Hinduism in that its form, Gurmat marries the two to effect, <strong>ਸਰਗੁਣ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਥਾਪੈ ਨਾਉ ॥ ਦੁਹ ਮਿਲਿ ਏਕੈ ਕੀਨੋ ਠਾਉ</strong> [p387SGGSJ, meaning, it is the name of the formless as well as the one with attributes, for they both reside at one place].</p><p></p><p>* for an in depth analysis we need to go far and wide, philosophically speaking !</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff"> BS</span>: In a nutshell -</p><p>The Supreme Being when described by different peoples in India was described in multiple ways. Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma were the three popular names (ways of describing) for the Supreme Being.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">OS</span>..correct !</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff"> BS</span>:. Ergo Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma are not a trinity, rather are names of One Supreme Being in different spiritual traditions.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"> ..OS</span>...they are the off-spring of Shakti [energy]. Baba Nanak Ji in Jap Ji Sahib weaves it beautifully, <strong>ਏਕਾ ਮਾਈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਵਿਆਈ ਤਿਨਿ ਚੇਲੇ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥ ਇਕੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੀ ਇਕੁ ਭੰਡਾਰੀ ਇਕੁ ਲਾਏ ਦੀਬਾਣੁ ॥</strong> p7 SGGSJ: mother miraculously brings forth 3 to perform distinct functions]. Labelling them trinity is definitely a cliché brought about by European theologians, I'm sorry.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff"> BS</span>: What is the point of explaining all this?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"> OS</span>: WOW - what a statement ! The time you spend exchanging information on gurmat sidhant [Sikh Philosophy] is a gift from the God's, not everyone is privy to it as much as others, only the chosen ones! Its an exclusive zone reserved for the journey home of the immortal soul. Besides, look here what Guru Ji is saying, <strong>ਆਖਾ ਜੀਵਾ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਮਰਿ ਜਾਉ</strong> ॥ ਆਖਣਿ ਅਉਖਾ ਸਾਚਾ ਨਾਉ ॥ ਸਾਚੇ ਨਾਮ ਕੀ ਲਾਗੈ ਭੂਖ ॥ ਉਤੁ ਭੂਖੈ ਖਾਇ ਚਲੀਅਹਿ ਦੂਖ II p9 SGGSJ [bold: when I speak of thee I'm alive n kicking, when I move away from thee O Lord, I surely die].</p><p></p><p>Here's another why, <strong>what's the point</strong> ! In a multiverse sense of the word Bhagat you are performing infinite number of roles all at the same time, that is to say, Nanak's spirit in Bhagat form [body].</p><p> </p><p>Once upon a time there was this young girl who'd sit on the side of a busy road chanting the name of God, as she waited for her father to return from work. Passers by would see this on a regular basis, albeit, she'd oblivious to all, until one day when one of the pedestrian stopped and spoke thus, "hey girl, everyday you're calling Him, if He was there he would've answered you by now wouldn't He ?".Hmm thought the girl after the pedestrian had moved on ! The following day the girl sat quietly and waited for her father. She did not chant His name. Then after some considerable time had elapsed a wise man happened to pass by, as he got close to where the girl sat, he observed that the girl was not chanting as she otherwise did but sat quietly. This he thought was very unusual. Intrigued and ridiculed, the wise man spoke to the girl thus, "hey little princess, why are you sitting quietly and not chanting God's name ?"</p><p>The girl looked up at the man and replied, "if He was there He would've answered me by now"</p><p>Laughing out loud and moving a step closer to where the girl sat, the wise spoke the following words, " hey beautiful, know Him to be the chanting, your every <strong>call</strong> is His every <strong>response. </strong></p><p>God wants you to know that every 'God' of yours is His 'Here I am" and that your prayer and grief and longing are His message to you. God is telling you:Your efforts to find a way to Me were My drawing you to Me.</p><p></p><p>Whatever you write or other members of the Senate write, consider it a calling from God and know you're drawing closer and closer.</p><p></p><p>Take care !</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Original, post: 207237, member: 14400"] [LIST=1] [*] [COLOR=#0000ff]Original said [OS[/COLOR]]:Good morning Bhagat Singh - let us enjoy vichar dhara [chewing shabd for the juicy bits]. [/LIST] [LIST=1] [*] [COLOR=#ff00ff]Bhagat said [BS]:[/COLOR] This is not the case. [/LIST] [COLOR=#0000ff]OS[/COLOR]..it never was cited as being the case. It is incidental amongst many others of the same that Baba Nanak was entertaining at the time when he put his pen to paper. The rationale behind it was to dismiss the inherent institutional separatism between the two giants, Hinduism and Islam. [COLOR=#ff00ff] BS[/COLOR]; Onkar mean - the one vibrating Aum. [COLOR=#0000ff]OS[/COLOR]..agree [URL='http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/goto/post?id=207234#post-207234'][U]↑[/U][/URL] [COLOR=#ff00ff] BS[/COLOR]: That's it. It is already absolutely 1 [COLOR=#0000ff]OS[/COLOR]..question ? Why did Baba Ji use figure one [1] and not the literal one [Ek] ?[URL='http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/goto/post?id=207234#post-207234'][U]↑[/U][/URL] [COLOR=#ff00ff] BS[/COLOR]: even before you add another 1 to it. [COLOR=#0000ff]OS[/COLOR]..from a metaphysical perspective, there is [B]more[/B]. That is to say "what is reality and beyond"? [LIST=1] [*]Is it the table and chairs that are real, or is it the wood, the tree, the earth, the solar system, the cosmos, the universe [General theory of relativity] [B]?[/B] [/LIST] 2. Or indeed, is it the constituent parts which the naked eye cannot see that make up the table and chairs, namely, atoms, molecules, electrons, protons, neutrons .....all the way to gluons which holds them together [Quantum Mechanics] [B]?[/B] "No", said Nanak [from an ideology perspective] ! There is [B]more[/B] ! For Nanak to explain the [B]"more"[/B] aspect of reality he used the "1" over the EK. Nanak's drive was towards the OM [Anhad Shabd, unstruck sound] which is behind the symbolic ॐ, and yes, you're probably right when you infer of it being graphically associated with ੴ [#12, above] [COLOR=#ff00ff]BS[/COLOR]: Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma are the names of the Supreme Being in three different Philosophies - Shaivism, Vaishavism and lastly , "Brahmnism" (which is simply known as Vedant today [COLOR=#0000ff]OS[/COLOR]..confirmed ! [B][COLOR=#ff00ff]BS[/COLOR]: Three separate monotheistic philosophies.[/B] Similar to Allah, Yahweh, Waheguru, Vishnu, Shiv, Brahma, Indra etc. That's what they mean (or what they originally meant, it's a really long storey [COLOR=#0000ff]OS[/COLOR]..allow me to shorten it a little ! India as you know is multi in everything, religion and dialect is no exception. You've got the Sanatan, idol worship [Hindu] and the Sami free of idol worship [Islam]. The latter dedicated to the spoken word, and Nanak of course, bang in the middle ! Hmm, what to do, thought Nanak ! "Eureka moment", Nanak comes up with a classic to establish an immutable unity between the two. On the one hand he introduces the without attributes, the formless God [Nirgun, 1] and on the other, with attributes and form God [Sargun, ੴ ]. This is confirmed on page 290 of SGGSJ, thus, [B]ਸਰਗੁਨ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧੀ ਆਪਿ ॥ ਆਪਨ ਕੀਆ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਫਿਰਿ ਜਾਪਿ ॥ [/B]The 1 before the onkar in this instance [*there are several] is to denote it "spirituality" for that is the foundation of Gurmat's spiritualism. Moreover, where Islam believes in the formless existence, Hinduism in that its form, Gurmat marries the two to effect, [B]ਸਰਗੁਣ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਥਾਪੈ ਨਾਉ ॥ ਦੁਹ ਮਿਲਿ ਏਕੈ ਕੀਨੋ ਠਾਉ[/B] [p387SGGSJ, meaning, it is the name of the formless as well as the one with attributes, for they both reside at one place]. * for an in depth analysis we need to go far and wide, philosophically speaking ! [COLOR=#ff00ff] BS[/COLOR]: In a nutshell - The Supreme Being when described by different peoples in India was described in multiple ways. Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma were the three popular names (ways of describing) for the Supreme Being. [COLOR=#0000ff]OS[/COLOR]..correct ! [COLOR=#ff00ff] BS[/COLOR]:. Ergo Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma are not a trinity, rather are names of One Supreme Being in different spiritual traditions. [COLOR=#0000ff] ..OS[/COLOR]...they are the off-spring of Shakti [energy]. Baba Nanak Ji in Jap Ji Sahib weaves it beautifully, [B]ਏਕਾ ਮਾਈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਵਿਆਈ ਤਿਨਿ ਚੇਲੇ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥ ਇਕੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੀ ਇਕੁ ਭੰਡਾਰੀ ਇਕੁ ਲਾਏ ਦੀਬਾਣੁ ॥[/B] p7 SGGSJ: mother miraculously brings forth 3 to perform distinct functions]. Labelling them trinity is definitely a cliché brought about by European theologians, I'm sorry. [COLOR=#ff00ff] BS[/COLOR]: What is the point of explaining all this? [COLOR=#0080ff] OS[/COLOR]: WOW - what a statement ! The time you spend exchanging information on gurmat sidhant [Sikh Philosophy] is a gift from the God's, not everyone is privy to it as much as others, only the chosen ones! Its an exclusive zone reserved for the journey home of the immortal soul. Besides, look here what Guru Ji is saying, [B]ਆਖਾ ਜੀਵਾ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਮਰਿ ਜਾਉ[/B] ॥ ਆਖਣਿ ਅਉਖਾ ਸਾਚਾ ਨਾਉ ॥ ਸਾਚੇ ਨਾਮ ਕੀ ਲਾਗੈ ਭੂਖ ॥ ਉਤੁ ਭੂਖੈ ਖਾਇ ਚਲੀਅਹਿ ਦੂਖ II p9 SGGSJ [bold: when I speak of thee I'm alive n kicking, when I move away from thee O Lord, I surely die]. Here's another why, [B]what's the point[/B] ! In a multiverse sense of the word Bhagat you are performing infinite number of roles all at the same time, that is to say, Nanak's spirit in Bhagat form [body]. Once upon a time there was this young girl who'd sit on the side of a busy road chanting the name of God, as she waited for her father to return from work. Passers by would see this on a regular basis, albeit, she'd oblivious to all, until one day when one of the pedestrian stopped and spoke thus, "hey girl, everyday you're calling Him, if He was there he would've answered you by now wouldn't He ?".Hmm thought the girl after the pedestrian had moved on ! The following day the girl sat quietly and waited for her father. She did not chant His name. Then after some considerable time had elapsed a wise man happened to pass by, as he got close to where the girl sat, he observed that the girl was not chanting as she otherwise did but sat quietly. This he thought was very unusual. Intrigued and ridiculed, the wise man spoke to the girl thus, "hey little princess, why are you sitting quietly and not chanting God's name ?" The girl looked up at the man and replied, "if He was there He would've answered me by now" Laughing out loud and moving a step closer to where the girl sat, the wise spoke the following words, " hey beautiful, know Him to be the chanting, your every [B]call[/B] is His every [B]response. [/B] God wants you to know that every 'God' of yours is His 'Here I am" and that your prayer and grief and longing are His message to you. God is telling you:Your efforts to find a way to Me were My drawing you to Me. Whatever you write or other members of the Senate write, consider it a calling from God and know you're drawing closer and closer. Take care ! [/QUOTE]
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