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Literal Meaning Of Gurbani
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<blockquote data-quote="dalsingh" data-source="post: 74330" data-attributes="member: 2883"><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>What about Guru Nanak referring to himself as a simple dhadhi in Gurbani. Should we ignore that? What would be the implications if we took this literally?</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=148&english=t&id=6134#l6134" target="_blank"><u>Page 148, Line 4</u></a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">ਖਾਲਕ ਕਉ ਆਦੇਸੁ ਢਾਢੀ ਗਾਵਣਾ ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">खालक कउ आदेसु ढाढी गावणा ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">Kẖālak ka*o āḏės dẖādẖī gāvṇā.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">I humbly bow to the Creator Lord; I am a <strong><span style="color: #ab5555">minstrel</span></strong> singing His Praises.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=150&english=t&id=6261#l6261" target="_blank"><u>Page 150, Line 16</u></a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">ਹਉ ਢਾਢੀ ਵੇਕਾਰੁ ਕਾਰੈ ਲਾਇਆ ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">हउ ढाढी वेकारु कारै लाइआ ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">Ha*o dẖādẖī vėkār kārai lā*i*ā.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">I was a <strong><span style="color: #ab5555">minstrel</span></strong>, out of work, when the Lord took me into His service.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"><strong>Again from Guru Ram Das:</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=91&english=t&id=3673#l3673" target="_blank"><u>Page 91, Line 14</u></a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">ਹਰਿ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸੁਣੀ ਪੂਕਾਰ ਢਾਢੀ ਮੁਖਿ ਲਾਇਆ ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">हरि अंदरि सुणी पूकार ढाढी मुखि लाइआ ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">Har anḏar suṇī pūkār dẖādẖī mukẖ lā*i*ā.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">The Lord has heard my sad cries from within; He has called me, His <strong><span style="color: #ab5555">minstrel</span></strong>, into His Presence.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"><strong>Also:</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=91&english=t&id=3672#l3672" target="_blank"><u>Page 91, Line 13</u></a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">ਹਉ ਢਾਢੀ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਖਸਮ ਕਾ ਹਰਿ ਕੈ ਦਰਿ ਆਇਆ ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">हउ ढाढी हरि प्रभ खसम का हरि कै दरि आइआ ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">Ha*o dẖādẖī har parabẖ kẖasam kā har kai ḏar ā*i*ā.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">I am a <strong><span style="color: #ab5555">minstrel</span></strong> of the Lord God, my Lord and Master; I have come to the Lord's Door.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"><strong>Guru Arjan Dev ji also referred to himself in a similar fashion.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">ਹਉ ਢਾਢੀ ਦਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਦਾ ਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਾਵੈ ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">हउ ढाढी दरि गुण गावदा जे हरि प्रभ भावै ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">Ha*o dẖādẖī ḏar guṇ gāvḏā jė har parabẖ bẖāvai.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: BLACK">I am a <strong><span style="color: #ab5555">minstrel</span></strong> at His Door, singing His Glorious Praises, to please to my Lord God.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>Also Guru Gobind Singh explicitly saying those who consider him God will go to hell in Bachitar Natak. </strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਜੋ ਹਮ ਕੋ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਉਚਰਿ ਹੈਂ ॥ ਤੇ ਸਭ ਨਰਕਿ ਕੁੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਪਰਿਹੈਂ ॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">जो हम को परमेसर उचरि हैं ॥ ते सभ नरकि कुंड महि परिहैं ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Whosoever shall call me the Lord, shall fall into hell.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">DG pg 137</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>We should consider the context of the following too:</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਕਹਾ ਲਗੈ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਟ ਬਖਾਨੈ ॥ ਮਹਿਮਾ ਤੋਰਿ ਤੁਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਜਾਨੈ ॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">कहा लगै इहु कीट बखानै ॥ महिमा तोरि तुही प्रभ जानै ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Upto what limit this insect can depict (Thy Praises)? Thou mayst Thyself improve Thy Greatness.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਪਿਤਾ ਜਨਮ ਜਿਮ ਪੂਤ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ ਕਹਾ ਤਵਨ ਕਾ ਭੇਦ ਬਤਾਵੈ ॥੪॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">पिता जनम जिम पूत न पावै ॥ कहा तवन का भेद बतावै ॥४॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Just as the son cannot say anything about the birth of his father, then how can one unfold Thy mystery.4.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਤੁਮਰੀ ਪ੍ਰਭਾ ਤੁਮੈ ਬਿਨ ਆਈ ॥ ਅਉਰਨ ਤੇ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਤ ਬਤਾਈ ॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">तुमरी प्रभा तुमै बिन आई ॥ अउरन ते नही जात बताई ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Thy Greatness is Only Thine, it cannot be described by others.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">DG pg 133</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>The above quote by Guru Gobind Singh relay a relationship between God and Guru. They are two different things. The quote below iillustrates Guru Gobind's belief that Gurus fully merged back into the lord after their earthly existence.. Again a difference between God and Guru is implied. </strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਮਿਲ ਗਏ ॥ ਗੁਰਤਾ ਦੇਤ ਅਰਜਨਿਹ ਭਏ ॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">रामदास हरि सो मिल गए ॥ गुरता देत अरजनिह भए ॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">When Ramdas merged in the Lord, the Guruship was bestowed upon Arjan.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">DG pg 130</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>The quote beloiw related to Guru Tegh Bahadur's sacrifice. Note the use of the terms prabh logan (God folk). He never refers to the ninth Guru as God.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਨਾਟਕ ਚੇਟਕ ਕੀਏ ਕੁਕਾਜਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਲੋਗਨ ਕਹ ਆਵਤ ਲਾਜਾ ॥੧੪॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolDevanSpl'"><span style="font-size: 10px">नाटक चेटक कीए कुकाजा ॥ प्रभ लोगन कह आवत लाजा ॥१४॥</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">The saints of the Lord abhor the performance of miracles and malpractices. 14.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>The above seems to fly in the face of arguments that the Gurus are to be considered God like is being suggested by some. </strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>Are difficulties people are having with finding deeper meaning in Gurbani making them</strong> <strong>take the easy route (i.</strong></span><strong>e. literal interpretations). What should we conclude from this?</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dalsingh, post: 74330, member: 2883"] [SIZE=2][B]What about Guru Nanak referring to himself as a simple dhadhi in Gurbani. Should we ignore that? What would be the implications if we took this literally?[/B] [/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=148&english=t&id=6134#l6134"][U]Page 148, Line 4[/U][/URL] [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]ਖਾਲਕ ਕਉ ਆਦੇਸੁ ਢਾਢੀ ਗਾਵਣਾ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]खालक कउ आदेसु ढाढी गावणा ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]Kẖālak ka*o āḏės dẖādẖī gāvṇā.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]I humbly bow to the Creator Lord; I am a [B][COLOR=#ab5555]minstrel[/COLOR][/B] singing His Praises. [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=150&english=t&id=6261#l6261"][U]Page 150, Line 16[/U][/URL] [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]ਹਉ ਢਾਢੀ ਵੇਕਾਰੁ ਕਾਰੈ ਲਾਇਆ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]हउ ढाढी वेकारु कारै लाइआ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]Ha*o dẖādẖī vėkār kārai lā*i*ā.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]I was a [B][COLOR=#ab5555]minstrel[/COLOR][/B], out of work, when the Lord took me into His service.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK] [B]Again from Guru Ram Das:[/B] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=91&english=t&id=3673#l3673"][U]Page 91, Line 14[/U][/URL] [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]ਹਰਿ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸੁਣੀ ਪੂਕਾਰ ਢਾਢੀ ਮੁਖਿ ਲਾਇਆ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]हरि अंदरि सुणी पूकार ढाढी मुखि लाइआ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]Har anḏar suṇī pūkār dẖādẖī mukẖ lā*i*ā.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]The Lord has heard my sad cries from within; He has called me, His [B][COLOR=#ab5555]minstrel[/COLOR][/B], into His Presence. [B]Also:[/B] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=91&english=t&id=3672#l3672"][U]Page 91, Line 13[/U][/URL] [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]ਹਉ ਢਾਢੀ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਖਸਮ ਕਾ ਹਰਿ ਕੈ ਦਰਿ ਆਇਆ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]हउ ढाढी हरि प्रभ खसम का हरि कै दरि आइआ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]Ha*o dẖādẖī har parabẖ kẖasam kā har kai ḏar ā*i*ā.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]I am a [B][COLOR=#ab5555]minstrel[/COLOR][/B] of the Lord God, my Lord and Master; I have come to the Lord's Door.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK] [B]Guru Arjan Dev ji also referred to himself in a similar fashion.[/B] [/COLOR][/SIZE][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]ਹਉ ਢਾਢੀ ਦਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਦਾ ਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਾਵੈ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]हउ ढाढी दरि गुण गावदा जे हरि प्रभ भावै ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]Ha*o dẖādẖī ḏar guṇ gāvḏā jė har parabẖ bẖāvai.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=BLACK]I am a [B][COLOR=#ab5555]minstrel[/COLOR][/B] at His Door, singing His Glorious Praises, to please to my Lord God.[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][/SIZE][SIZE=2][B] Also Guru Gobind Singh explicitly saying those who consider him God will go to hell in Bachitar Natak. [/B] [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]ਜੋ ਹਮ ਕੋ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਉਚਰਿ ਹੈਂ ॥ ਤੇ ਸਭ ਨਰਕਿ ਕੁੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਪਰਿਹੈਂ ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]जो हम को परमेसर उचरि हैं ॥ ते सभ नरकि कुंड महि परिहैं ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] Whosoever shall call me the Lord, shall fall into hell. DG pg 137 [B]We should consider the context of the following too:[/B] [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]ਕਹਾ ਲਗੈ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਟ ਬਖਾਨੈ ॥ ਮਹਿਮਾ ਤੋਰਿ ਤੁਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਜਾਨੈ ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]कहा लगै इहु कीट बखानै ॥ महिमा तोरि तुही प्रभ जानै ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] Upto what limit this insect can depict (Thy Praises)? Thou mayst Thyself improve Thy Greatness. [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]ਪਿਤਾ ਜਨਮ ਜਿਮ ਪੂਤ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ ਕਹਾ ਤਵਨ ਕਾ ਭੇਦ ਬਤਾਵੈ ॥੪॥[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]पिता जनम जिम पूत न पावै ॥ कहा तवन का भेद बतावै ॥४॥[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] Just as the son cannot say anything about the birth of his father, then how can one unfold Thy mystery.4. [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]ਤੁਮਰੀ ਪ੍ਰਭਾ ਤੁਮੈ ਬਿਨ ਆਈ ॥ ਅਉਰਨ ਤੇ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਤ ਬਤਾਈ ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]तुमरी प्रभा तुमै बिन आई ॥ अउरन ते नही जात बताई ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] Thy Greatness is Only Thine, it cannot be described by others. DG pg 133 [B]The above quote by Guru Gobind Singh relay a relationship between God and Guru. They are two different things. The quote below iillustrates Guru Gobind's belief that Gurus fully merged back into the lord after their earthly existence.. Again a difference between God and Guru is implied. [/B] [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਮਿਲ ਗਏ ॥ ਗੁਰਤਾ ਦੇਤ ਅਰਜਨਿਹ ਭਏ ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]रामदास हरि सो मिल गए ॥ गुरता देत अरजनिह भए ॥[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] When Ramdas merged in the Lord, the Guruship was bestowed upon Arjan. DG pg 130 [B] The quote beloiw related to Guru Tegh Bahadur's sacrifice. Note the use of the terms prabh logan (God folk). He never refers to the ninth Guru as God.[/B] [/SIZE][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]ਨਾਟਕ ਚੇਟਕ ਕੀਏ ਕੁਕਾਜਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਲੋਗਨ ਕਹ ਆਵਤ ਲਾਜਾ ॥੧੪॥[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AnmolDevanSpl][SIZE=2]नाटक चेटक कीए कुकाजा ॥ प्रभ लोगन कह आवत लाजा ॥१४॥[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] The saints of the Lord abhor the performance of miracles and malpractices. 14. [B]The above seems to fly in the face of arguments that the Gurus are to be considered God like is being suggested by some. Are difficulties people are having with finding deeper meaning in Gurbani making them[/B] [B]take the easy route (i.[/B][/SIZE][B]e. literal interpretations). What should we conclude from this? [/B] [/QUOTE]
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