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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Original" data-source="post: 206613" data-attributes="member: 14400"><p>Admin Kaur Ji</p><p></p><p>Thank you for picking up meaningful conversations to help understand the "human" us before we embark upon the "spiritual" us.</p><p></p><p>Personally speaking, I've never pressurised or tried to indoctrinate anyone to walk the path upon which I walk [Sikh}, Why ? because “time” in its unfolding nature gets paid to do just that. And besides, without hell there could be no heaven is my philosophy. Also, you need to have a data bank of life's good, bad and the ugly experiences to reflect upon when eyes closed. Meditating at young age is like asking what's north of North pole ?</p><p></p><p>The awakening must initiate from within oneself at a time, place and circumstance of the workings of nature to which a man belong. Children should be taught the basic principles of moral values and ethical practices. Getting them to attend the Gurdwara day-in-and day out, would, in my humble opinion, rob them of their natural life, that is to say, indoctrinate them to an institutional system, deny them the mechanics of heavenly joy found in diversity. Moreover, it will deny them elements of surprise, chance, fortune and misfortune to fully permeate in the making and shaping of their lives, heavens no, that will be sinful ! They will remain aloof to life’s many hidden secrets and will miss out on the game of chance to meet their playmates under open skies.</p><p></p><p>No, nature nurture must be allowed to take its course, the exuberance of youth must be allowed to self-destruct and prepare the young for the roller-coaster of the life ahead. Who knows, that could be the sinner or the saint a characteristic, a choice if you ask me, in a free society. Of course, with a limited degree of certainty predictions could be made in determining the good, great and the holiness of the child’s environment, were it to mix with a particular social group [say, Sikhi]. But wait ! By whose standards are we to judge what is good, great and holy? Surely not by the illiterate and the ignorant - for they themselves don’t know any better? An example springs to mind here</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>[A Ghummar (potter) finds the priceless Kohinoor diamond; what does he do? straps it around his donkey’s neck because it looks good (ignorant). When the Jeweller finds the same jewel he cuts a bit off, sells it for a quick buck and calls his buddy, “Tiger, pack your bags we’re off to Seychelles”. See the difference between the knower and the ignorant. The knower knows the value]</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>In short, don’t get onto the gravy train where the blind is led by the blind, go out and play with fire,. for only the burnt get treated at the House of Lord. Let us consider ourselves fortunate for being the “ordinary” children of god and not wannabe’s special creed, culturists or an alien faith. Be the natural water you are and mix with any and every mineral. Be a good human and live to love.</p><p></p><p>Goodnight</p><p></p><p>PS - It's my personal opinion and should in no way be construed to corrupt or mislead the youth<strong>.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Original, post: 206613, member: 14400"] Admin Kaur Ji Thank you for picking up meaningful conversations to help understand the "human" us before we embark upon the "spiritual" us. Personally speaking, I've never pressurised or tried to indoctrinate anyone to walk the path upon which I walk [Sikh}, Why ? because “time” in its unfolding nature gets paid to do just that. And besides, without hell there could be no heaven is my philosophy. Also, you need to have a data bank of life's good, bad and the ugly experiences to reflect upon when eyes closed. Meditating at young age is like asking what's north of North pole ? The awakening must initiate from within oneself at a time, place and circumstance of the workings of nature to which a man belong. Children should be taught the basic principles of moral values and ethical practices. Getting them to attend the Gurdwara day-in-and day out, would, in my humble opinion, rob them of their natural life, that is to say, indoctrinate them to an institutional system, deny them the mechanics of heavenly joy found in diversity. Moreover, it will deny them elements of surprise, chance, fortune and misfortune to fully permeate in the making and shaping of their lives, heavens no, that will be sinful ! They will remain aloof to life’s many hidden secrets and will miss out on the game of chance to meet their playmates under open skies. No, nature nurture must be allowed to take its course, the exuberance of youth must be allowed to self-destruct and prepare the young for the roller-coaster of the life ahead. Who knows, that could be the sinner or the saint a characteristic, a choice if you ask me, in a free society. Of course, with a limited degree of certainty predictions could be made in determining the good, great and the holiness of the child’s environment, were it to mix with a particular social group [say, Sikhi]. But wait ! By whose standards are we to judge what is good, great and holy? Surely not by the illiterate and the ignorant - for they themselves don’t know any better? An example springs to mind here [B] [A Ghummar (potter) finds the priceless Kohinoor diamond; what does he do? straps it around his donkey’s neck because it looks good (ignorant). When the Jeweller finds the same jewel he cuts a bit off, sells it for a quick buck and calls his buddy, “Tiger, pack your bags we’re off to Seychelles”. See the difference between the knower and the ignorant. The knower knows the value] [/B] In short, don’t get onto the gravy train where the blind is led by the blind, go out and play with fire,. for only the burnt get treated at the House of Lord. Let us consider ourselves fortunate for being the “ordinary” children of god and not wannabe’s special creed, culturists or an alien faith. Be the natural water you are and mix with any and every mineral. Be a good human and live to love. Goodnight PS - It's my personal opinion and should in no way be construed to corrupt or mislead the youth[B].[/B] [/QUOTE]
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