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<blockquote data-quote="Harjas Kaur Khalsa" data-source="post: 75468" data-attributes="member: 2125"><p><span style="color: black">You know panji, bibek is a process of discrimination by which we distinguish between things. I know you are talking about my posts. Panji, your upset about "judging." But posts where I have objected to someone calling themself a Sikh had to do with someone excommunicated, Kala Afghana, with Naamdharies and their dedhari pakhandi guru Jagjit Singh Naamdhari.</span></p><p> </p><p>I never said that you or anyone else was not a Sikh...except these people. For very good reason... They aren't Sikhs.</p><p> </p><p>You know, I don't care how many videos people like Guruka Singh Khalsa make, and this isn't only my opinion, but those people aren't going to be accepted no matter how much you may tear us apart personally as being unloving. First of all, I didn't exclude them. I acknowledge that they have been excluded. You know, if this was an interfaith forum I could understand your rant. But panji, it's a SIKH forum. And no apostate group is going to get legitimacy if 99.9% of all the posters agreed with you. </p><p> </p><p>Just because I say they are not accepted, how am I judging? I do not decide these things. As a Sikh, I only accept them, because I accept the wisdom of Guru Panth as point of faith.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">How are my posts quick to judge when Akal Takht has already decided these matters? This is not my judgment panji. Everyone does have a right to choose. But no Sikh can override Gurbani, Panj Piare, or Akal Takht Sahib Ji Hukamnama. You realize in 1978 one of these dedhari gurus ordered the attack on 60 Gursikhs killing 13 of them? Why would anybody question the social boycott of such sects? Why is this heartbreaking? They are under social boycott for a reason. I just happen to accept the wisdom of the reason. I am not personally rejecting anyone. And anyone who comes to Panj Piare and Sikh sangat for forgiveness will be forgiven.</span></p><p> </p><p>Panji, I have no right to declare a social boycott. I have no right to make or alter the accepted Panthic definition of who is a Sikh. Why is it heartbreaking to you when you don't even understand what a Panthic opinion is or the authority of Guru Khalsa Panth and say things like:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: black">Panji, give me a break. I stayed up all night, without eating to write out answers to peoples questions. Not because I'm uppity, but because there isn't enough Gursikhi parchaar. A lot of people don't have the information of what Sikhism even believs before they make themselves a teacher. That's why the opinions of an excommunicated scholar, a boycotted sect, and a video of a yoga teacher who doesn't lend one single pauri of Gurbani to support his assertion that Naam is unique to everybody and means whatever you want it to. And that's why I stayed up all night trying to answer everybody's objections. I mean, Sikhism is a RELIGION. It HAS RULES. And I didn't invent them. I only accept them. I'm sorry that I disgust you.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #000000">Suppose someone went to a mainstream Christian Church and said, "Hey, you gotta accept me! You gotta be kind to me! You gotta be open-minded because I'm a Christian too! I don't believe in Jesus. I don't believe in the Virgin Birth. I don't believe in the son of God. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I don't believe in the disciples or the Bible. I don't believe in the crucifixion OR the resurrection. But you gotta accept me as a Christian, or I'll rant about how you disgust me."</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #000000">Doesn't every religion have a right to identity and self-definition? What if you went to the Jews and said, "Hey, you orthodox guys have it all wrong! When you keep those beards and earlocks and black hats its because of PRIDE! And you disgust me. Who says I can't cut mine off and still be an orthodox Jew? Who are you to tell me anything? I'm telling you, your orthodoxy is legalism! It's unspiritual! It's against the Bible that I read for the last year and you're all heartbreaking."</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #000000">Wouldn't that just about be the most arrogant approach anyone could have to orthodox Jews who have been through so much just to be here today preserving and cherishing that identity? Why would you be bent out of shape because rejecting orthodoxy, the orthodox don't accept you?</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #000000">Panji, you have unrealistic expectations. <strong>Just listen to the intolerance in what your saying. </strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>You aren't talking to excommunicated, or boycotted. You aren't talking to people ostracized for murdering Sikhs or making themselves Guru. Your talking to someone with an orthodox opinion that doesn't conform to your own.</strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #000000">Panji, I'm a convert too. And I have not been walking this path that long either. I took amrit not quite 3 years ago. So the last thing I wanted to do was to make you unhappy or discourage your seeking. That's why I worked so hard to give you the best answer I could give. </span><span style="color: #000000">Is this post condemning me the best you could give?</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #008080"><span style="color: #008080"></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">Panji, the orthodox view is that Guru Nanak Dev Ji is the same jyot as Guru Gobind Singh Ji. That sant rass is the same as bir rass. That the Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is indisputedly Guru, but is the sant granth. Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji is the sipahi granth. The Rehat Maryada of the Khalsa is also the creation of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. We are to be fearless adversaries to our enemies, as we are loving to those in need. The orthodox opinion doesn't see only love in Guru Ji's message, but a clear and unmistakeable identity, definite rules, definite sacrifice. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">Panji, you keep confusing Guru Nanak Dev Ji with Jesus Christ and his conflicts with the legalism of orthodox Judaism. The same Guru Gobind Singh Ji who gave us these rules, this uniform and separate identity as Khalsa. <em>Guruji didn't spend his life trying to do away with the Khalsa order He called His very own form.</em> This is the Gurmat Gursikh faith. There is no conflict with the message of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, because Guru Nanak Dev Ji is still with us today in the Khalsa Panth and Panj Piare and Shabad Guru Ji Maharaaj. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">Panji, you have a right to ask any questions at all. Can't you see this is different from apostate beliefs being preached to confuse Sikh teaching? If you have belief in the 10 forms of Guru and the Shabad Guru and no belief in any other teaching (Im sorry, but as per Rehit Maryada) then you, and all the 3HO people are Sikhs and part of the Sikh Panth. I didn't decide this, it's Guruji's hukam, and I accept you as my sister.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">Guruji has that right. And no Sikh will violate the Guru's hukam.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">You are called to become the fearless Khalsa. When bullets are flying from enemies who want to torture and kill you, your going to be worrying about small thing like this? Be strong! And look at how you too are in the maya of judgment along with the rest of us.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">If I was uppity would I even give you the time of day? And yet here I am still trying to answer your objections. To become Khalsa is to accept an invitation for love affair with Guruji. If Guru is not your beloved one, and your not willing to have your head cut off and become shaheed. If you are wavering over attitudes, what will you do when bullets are flying? Guruji dares you to become Khalsa. He doesn't beg. You will walk this path with a sword in your hand, and instruction never to turn your back to the battle.</span></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">ਕਬੀਰ ਜਉ ਤੁਹਿ ਸਾਧ ਪਿਰੰਮ ਕੀ ਪਾਕੇ ਸੇਤੀ ਖੇਲੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">kabeer jo thuhi saadhh piranm kee paakae saethee khael ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">Kabeer, if you desire to play the game of love with the Lord, play it with someone with committment.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">ਕਾਚੀ ਸਰਸਉਂ ਪੇਲਿ ਕੈ ਨਾ ਖਲਿ ਭਈ ਨ ਤੇਲੁ ॥੨੪੦॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">kaachee sarasoun pael kai naa khal bhee n thael ||240||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">Pressing the unripe mustard seeds produces neither oil nor flour. ||240||</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">ਢੂੰਢਤ ਡੋਲਹਿ ਅੰਧ ਗਤਿ ਅਰੁ ਚੀਨਤ ਨਾਹੀ ਸੰਤ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">dtoondtath ddolehi andhh gath ar cheenath naahee santh ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: darkred">Searching, the mortal stumbles like a blind person, and does not recognize the Saint.</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #8b0000">~SGGS Ji p. 1377</span></p><p></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center">click here---> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG7i08NLbZI" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: blue">YouTube - 1984 teri yaad</span></strong></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harjas Kaur Khalsa, post: 75468, member: 2125"] [COLOR=black]You know panji, bibek is a process of discrimination by which we distinguish between things. I know you are talking about my posts. Panji, your upset about "judging." But posts where I have objected to someone calling themself a Sikh had to do with someone excommunicated, Kala Afghana, with Naamdharies and their dedhari pakhandi guru Jagjit Singh Naamdhari.[/COLOR] I never said that you or anyone else was not a Sikh...except these people. For very good reason... They aren't Sikhs. You know, I don't care how many videos people like Guruka Singh Khalsa make, and this isn't only my opinion, but those people aren't going to be accepted no matter how much you may tear us apart personally as being unloving. First of all, I didn't exclude them. I acknowledge that they have been excluded. You know, if this was an interfaith forum I could understand your rant. But panji, it's a SIKH forum. And no apostate group is going to get legitimacy if 99.9% of all the posters agreed with you. Just because I say they are not accepted, how am I judging? I do not decide these things. As a Sikh, I only accept them, because I accept the wisdom of Guru Panth as point of faith. [COLOR=teal][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]How are my posts quick to judge when Akal Takht has already decided these matters? This is not my judgment panji. Everyone does have a right to choose. But no Sikh can override Gurbani, Panj Piare, or Akal Takht Sahib Ji Hukamnama. You realize in 1978 one of these dedhari gurus ordered the attack on 60 Gursikhs killing 13 of them? Why would anybody question the social boycott of such sects? Why is this heartbreaking? They are under social boycott for a reason. I just happen to accept the wisdom of the reason. I am not personally rejecting anyone. And anyone who comes to Panj Piare and Sikh sangat for forgiveness will be forgiven.[/COLOR] Panji, I have no right to declare a social boycott. I have no right to make or alter the accepted Panthic definition of who is a Sikh. Why is it heartbreaking to you when you don't even understand what a Panthic opinion is or the authority of Guru Khalsa Panth and say things like: [COLOR=#008080][COLOR=#008080][COLOR=black]Panji, give me a break. I stayed up all night, without eating to write out answers to peoples questions. Not because I'm uppity, but because there isn't enough Gursikhi parchaar. A lot of people don't have the information of what Sikhism even believs before they make themselves a teacher. That's why the opinions of an excommunicated scholar, a boycotted sect, and a video of a yoga teacher who doesn't lend one single pauri of Gurbani to support his assertion that Naam is unique to everybody and means whatever you want it to. And that's why I stayed up all night trying to answer everybody's objections. I mean, Sikhism is a RELIGION. It HAS RULES. And I didn't invent them. I only accept them. I'm sorry that I disgust you.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Suppose someone went to a mainstream Christian Church and said, "Hey, you gotta accept me! You gotta be kind to me! You gotta be open-minded because I'm a Christian too! I don't believe in Jesus. I don't believe in the Virgin Birth. I don't believe in the son of God. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I don't believe in the disciples or the Bible. I don't believe in the crucifixion OR the resurrection. But you gotta accept me as a Christian, or I'll rant about how you disgust me."[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Doesn't every religion have a right to identity and self-definition? What if you went to the Jews and said, "Hey, you orthodox guys have it all wrong! When you keep those beards and earlocks and black hats its because of PRIDE! And you disgust me. Who says I can't cut mine off and still be an orthodox Jew? Who are you to tell me anything? I'm telling you, your orthodoxy is legalism! It's unspiritual! It's against the Bible that I read for the last year and you're all heartbreaking."[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Wouldn't that just about be the most arrogant approach anyone could have to orthodox Jews who have been through so much just to be here today preserving and cherishing that identity? Why would you be bent out of shape because rejecting orthodoxy, the orthodox don't accept you?[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Panji, you have unrealistic expectations. [B]Just listen to the intolerance in what your saying. [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]You aren't talking to excommunicated, or boycotted. You aren't talking to people ostracized for murdering Sikhs or making themselves Guru. Your talking to someone with an orthodox opinion that doesn't conform to your own.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Panji, I'm a convert too. And I have not been walking this path that long either. I took amrit not quite 3 years ago. So the last thing I wanted to do was to make you unhappy or discourage your seeking. That's why I worked so hard to give you the best answer I could give. [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]Is this post condemning me the best you could give?[/COLOR] [/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=teal][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Panji, the orthodox view is that Guru Nanak Dev Ji is the same jyot as Guru Gobind Singh Ji. That sant rass is the same as bir rass. That the Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is indisputedly Guru, but is the sant granth. Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji is the sipahi granth. The Rehat Maryada of the Khalsa is also the creation of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. We are to be fearless adversaries to our enemies, as we are loving to those in need. The orthodox opinion doesn't see only love in Guru Ji's message, but a clear and unmistakeable identity, definite rules, definite sacrifice. [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Panji, you keep confusing Guru Nanak Dev Ji with Jesus Christ and his conflicts with the legalism of orthodox Judaism. The same Guru Gobind Singh Ji who gave us these rules, this uniform and separate identity as Khalsa. [I]Guruji didn't spend his life trying to do away with the Khalsa order He called His very own form.[/I] This is the Gurmat Gursikh faith. There is no conflict with the message of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, because Guru Nanak Dev Ji is still with us today in the Khalsa Panth and Panj Piare and Shabad Guru Ji Maharaaj. [/COLOR] [COLOR=teal][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Panji, you have a right to ask any questions at all. Can't you see this is different from apostate beliefs being preached to confuse Sikh teaching? If you have belief in the 10 forms of Guru and the Shabad Guru and no belief in any other teaching (Im sorry, but as per Rehit Maryada) then you, and all the 3HO people are Sikhs and part of the Sikh Panth. I didn't decide this, it's Guruji's hukam, and I accept you as my sister.[/COLOR] [COLOR=teal][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Guruji has that right. And no Sikh will violate the Guru's hukam.[/COLOR] [COLOR=teal][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]You are called to become the fearless Khalsa. When bullets are flying from enemies who want to torture and kill you, your going to be worrying about small thing like this? Be strong! And look at how you too are in the maya of judgment along with the rest of us.[/COLOR] [COLOR=teal][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]If I was uppity would I even give you the time of day? And yet here I am still trying to answer your objections. To become Khalsa is to accept an invitation for love affair with Guruji. If Guru is not your beloved one, and your not willing to have your head cut off and become shaheed. If you are wavering over attitudes, what will you do when bullets are flying? Guruji dares you to become Khalsa. He doesn't beg. You will walk this path with a sword in your hand, and instruction never to turn your back to the battle.[/COLOR] [CENTER][COLOR=darkred]ਕਬੀਰ ਜਉ ਤੁਹਿ ਸਾਧ ਪਿਰੰਮ ਕੀ ਪਾਕੇ ਸੇਤੀ ਖੇਲੁ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]kabeer jo thuhi saadhh piranm kee paakae saethee khael ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Kabeer, if you desire to play the game of love with the Lord, play it with someone with committment.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=darkred]ਕਾਚੀ ਸਰਸਉਂ ਪੇਲਿ ਕੈ ਨਾ ਖਲਿ ਭਈ ਨ ਤੇਲੁ ॥੨੪੦॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]kaachee sarasoun pael kai naa khal bhee n thael ||240||[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Pressing the unripe mustard seeds produces neither oil nor flour. ||240||[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=darkred]ਢੂੰਢਤ ਡੋਲਹਿ ਅੰਧ ਗਤਿ ਅਰੁ ਚੀਨਤ ਨਾਹੀ ਸੰਤ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]dtoondtath ddolehi andhh gath ar cheenath naahee santh ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Searching, the mortal stumbles like a blind person, and does not recognize the Saint.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#8b0000]~SGGS Ji p. 1377[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER]click here---> [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG7i08NLbZI"][B][COLOR=blue]YouTube - 1984 teri yaad[/COLOR][/B][/URL][/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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