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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 123208" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>Not exactly Curious Seeker ji </p><p></p><p>It is the end of a long day for me so I hope that I don't muddle this up. <img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/omggg.jpg" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":omggg:" title="Omggg :omggg:" data-shortname=":omggg:" /></p><p></p><p>In your sentence you intertwine concepts of being and existence in a kind of parabolic relationship. You are saying </p><p></p><p><span style="color: Sienna">1. His existence entails his being </span></p><p>" However, <strong>if god exists, then</strong> He has to be the ground for being and existence " <span style="color: DarkGreen">In other words His existence leads us to conclude His being</span>.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Sienna">2. and His being entails His existence. </span></p><p></p><p>"He has to be the ground for being and existence <strong>because He is Creator,</strong>"<span style="color: DarkGreen"> In other words, His being leads us to conclude His existence. </span></p><p></p><p>You could be right.</p><p></p><p>I am looking at the problem of God's existence, as a problem, from a different angle. You have posited in the second part of your sentence that <strong>He is the Creator</strong>. You are asking, How can something "be" without also "existing?" </p><p></p><p>So if we were discussing ontological proofs of God that would be fine. <em>Some omnipotent and creative principle must be true and therefore our goal is to show that the claim There is a God is both logical and true</em>. Or to put it another way, Let's posit that there is a God, and then prove His existence by way of His immanence in all of His Creation. </p><p></p><p> But the challenge theists confront is not that.</p><p></p><p>If one rejects <strong>He is </strong>as the starting point, in other words if one rejects that "some omnipotent and creative principle must be true" then empirical empirical proofs for God's existence are not possible. The question, <strong>Does God exist,</strong> asked as a stand-alone question, can be answered very simply. No God does not exist. Questions about existence do not depend on assumptions that are taken to be true in and of themselves. </p><p></p><p>However, the question, <strong>Is there a God,</strong> cannot be dismissed so quickly because it is asking about "being" and not about "existence." There are many things in the realm of "being" that simply "are" and we accept them as true without direct evidence. For example gravity "is" yet we can prove that it is true only by inference, from its effects. No direct evidence is given.</p><p></p><p>I think that Guru Nanak the philosopher was telling us that God is a self-evident truth.<em> Sat Nam - You are Truth, Truth is your Identity. You are timeless and You pervade everything. You are Self-existent and Self-created. And You move everything By Your Grace. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p>He makes no attempt to prove this.<em> God is the premise not the conclusion for Guru Nanak.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em>Because mool mantar comes before all other Gurbani, it is unequivocal that Ik Oan Kar is the premise for Guru Nanak, a first principle from which all other organizing principles of the universe evolve. From and upon this one Truth all other truths are found. Like gravity, His Truth is known through His effects on creation. His immanence in creation is what we discover. And our buddh is required to make these discoveries.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 123208, member: 35"] Not exactly Curious Seeker ji It is the end of a long day for me so I hope that I don't muddle this up. :omggg: In your sentence you intertwine concepts of being and existence in a kind of parabolic relationship. You are saying [COLOR=Sienna]1. His existence entails his being [/COLOR] " However, [B]if god exists, then[/B] He has to be the ground for being and existence " [COLOR=DarkGreen]In other words His existence leads us to conclude His being[/COLOR]. [COLOR=Sienna]2. and His being entails His existence. [/COLOR] "He has to be the ground for being and existence [B]because He is Creator,[/B]"[COLOR=DarkGreen] In other words, His being leads us to conclude His existence. [/COLOR] You could be right. I am looking at the problem of God's existence, as a problem, from a different angle. You have posited in the second part of your sentence that [B]He is the Creator[/B]. You are asking, How can something "be" without also "existing?" So if we were discussing ontological proofs of God that would be fine. [I]Some omnipotent and creative principle must be true and therefore our goal is to show that the claim There is a God is both logical and true[/I]. Or to put it another way, Let's posit that there is a God, and then prove His existence by way of His immanence in all of His Creation. But the challenge theists confront is not that. If one rejects [B]He is [/B]as the starting point, in other words if one rejects that "some omnipotent and creative principle must be true" then empirical empirical proofs for God's existence are not possible. The question, [B]Does God exist,[/B] asked as a stand-alone question, can be answered very simply. No God does not exist. Questions about existence do not depend on assumptions that are taken to be true in and of themselves. However, the question, [B]Is there a God,[/B] cannot be dismissed so quickly because it is asking about "being" and not about "existence." There are many things in the realm of "being" that simply "are" and we accept them as true without direct evidence. For example gravity "is" yet we can prove that it is true only by inference, from its effects. No direct evidence is given. I think that Guru Nanak the philosopher was telling us that God is a self-evident truth.[I] Sat Nam - You are Truth, Truth is your Identity. You are timeless and You pervade everything. You are Self-existent and Self-created. And You move everything By Your Grace. [/I] He makes no attempt to prove this.[I] God is the premise not the conclusion for Guru Nanak. [/I]Because mool mantar comes before all other Gurbani, it is unequivocal that Ik Oan Kar is the premise for Guru Nanak, a first principle from which all other organizing principles of the universe evolve. From and upon this one Truth all other truths are found. Like gravity, His Truth is known through His effects on creation. His immanence in creation is what we discover. And our buddh is required to make these discoveries. [/QUOTE]
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