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<blockquote data-quote="rabjot_singh@yahoo.co.in" data-source="post: 88790" data-attributes="member: 3179"><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">These refrences from Vedas indicate that Idol Worship is not recommended even in Hindu Religion & Society.</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1. "Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">6. "na tasya pratima asti</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">"There is no image of Him."</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>[Yajurveda 32:3]</strong> </span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">7. "shudhama poapvidham"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">"He is bodyless and pure." </span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>[Yajurveda 40:8]</strong> </span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">8. "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">[<strong>Yajurveda 40:9]</strong> </span></span></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc</span></span></em></strong></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda: </span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">9. "Na tasya Pratima asti"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">"There is no image of Him."</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>[Yajurveda 32:3]</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">This also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">10. "Na tasya pratima asti"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">"There is no likeness of Him"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>11. [Rigveda 8:1:1]</strong>10 </span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em>Based on these verses, a Hindu should not worship the idols.</em></strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong><em><span style="color: black">Regarding idol worship in Sikhism consider following banis :</span></em></strong> </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><u><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Shree Kabeer Says in Granth Sahib</span></span></u></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">कबीर पाहनु परमेसुरु कीआ पूजै सभु संसारु ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Kabeer, someone sets up a stone idol and all the world worships it as the Lord.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">इस भरवासे जो रहे बूडे काली धार ॥१३६॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Those who hold to this belief will be drowned in the river of darkness. ||136||</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">कबीर कागद की ओबरी मसु के करम कपाट ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Kabeer, the paper is the prison, and the ink of rituals are the bars on the windows.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">पाहन बोरी पिरथमी पंडित पाड़ी बाट ॥१३७॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The stone idols have drowned the world, and the Pandits, the religious scholars, have plundered it on the way. ||137||</span></span></span></p><p><u><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Shree Nanak Says in Granth Sahib</span></span></u></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">हिंदू मूले भूले अखुटी जांही ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The Hindus have forgotten the Primal Lord; they are going the wrong way.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">नारदि कहिआ सि पूज करांही ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">As Naarad instructed them, they are worshipping idols.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">अंधे गुंगे अंध अंधारु ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">They are blind and mute, the blindest of the blind.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">पाथरु ले पूजहि मुगध गवार ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The ignorant fools pick up stones and worship them.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">ओहि जा आपि डुबे तुम कहा तरणहारु ॥२॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">But when those stones themselves sink, who will carry you across? ||2||</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rabjot_singh@yahoo.co.in, post: 88790, member: 3179"] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]These refrences from Vedas indicate that Idol Worship is not recommended even in Hindu Religion & Society.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]1. "Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures." [B][Bhagavad Gita 7:20][/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. 6. "na tasya pratima asti "There is no image of Him." [B][Yajurveda 32:3][/B] 7. "shudhama poapvidham" "He is bodyless and pure." [B][Yajurveda 40:8][/B] 8. "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste" "They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti." [[B]Yajurveda 40:9][/B] [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [B][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/I][/B] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda: 9. "Na tasya Pratima asti" "There is no image of Him." [B][Yajurveda 32:3][/B] This also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19. 10. "Na tasya pratima asti" "There is no likeness of Him" [B]11. [Rigveda 8:1:1][/B]10 The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is: "Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan" "There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit." [B][I]Based on these verses, a Hindu should not worship the idols.[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000][B][I][COLOR=black]Regarding idol worship in Sikhism consider following banis :[/COLOR][/I][/B] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [B][U][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Shree Kabeer Says in Granth Sahib[/SIZE][/FONT][/U][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]कबीर पाहनु परमेसुरु कीआ पूजै सभु संसारु ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Kabeer, someone sets up a stone idol and all the world worships it as the Lord.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]इस भरवासे जो रहे बूडे काली धार ॥१३६॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Those who hold to this belief will be drowned in the river of darkness. ||136||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]कबीर कागद की ओबरी मसु के करम कपाट ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Kabeer, the paper is the prison, and the ink of rituals are the bars on the windows.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]पाहन बोरी पिरथमी पंडित पाड़ी बाट ॥१३७॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The stone idols have drowned the world, and the Pandits, the religious scholars, have plundered it on the way. ||137||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [U][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Shree Nanak Says in Granth Sahib[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/U] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]हिंदू मूले भूले अखुटी जांही ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The Hindus have forgotten the Primal Lord; they are going the wrong way.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]नारदि कहिआ सि पूज करांही ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]As Naarad instructed them, they are worshipping idols.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]अंधे गुंगे अंध अंधारु ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]They are blind and mute, the blindest of the blind.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]पाथरु ले पूजहि मुगध गवार ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The ignorant fools pick up stones and worship them.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]ओहि जा आपि डुबे तुम कहा तरणहारु ॥२॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]But when those stones themselves sink, who will carry you across? ||2||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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