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<blockquote data-quote="Chaan Pardesi" data-source="post: 134549" data-attributes="member: 7047"><p>"Some stay stay vegetarian. Others eat eggs and fish.</p><p>Some less strict eat Halal.</p><p>Others pay butchers to Jhatka it or do it themselves."</p><p> </p><p>I shall speak for Malaysia.Sikh Malaysians are different.Because they have lived in Malaysia since about 1872 officially; now it is the fifth or sixth generation running there.</p><p> </p><p>MOST are oblivion to the issue of Halal, even though many know that they are not supposed to consume Kutha.Only those, which is smaller number , who have attended the Sikh camps, and are close to their own culture and religion refrain from consuming halal products.In the main, most local Sikhs find it rather a run of the mill to eat halal.Many more may perhaps not consume beef, but non beef halal meat is readily consumed.</p><p> </p><p>Some claim that halal is cleaner as it is strictly monitored by the government.In malaysia, there is almost a halal equivalent for every product, even fish and vegetarian products are branded as complying to halal standards; as Malaysia has tried to project itself as the HUB of Halal in the world.</p><p> </p><p>Even Sikh functions held in hotels or non sikh restaurants [except for the chinese eateries where pork is served], halal meat is provided for.I understadn even the few Sikh restarants use halal, and may only provide the jhatka for Sikhs on request.</p><p> </p><p>Over the years, I have returned home often to weddings/fuctions where I note the caterers are non Sikhs, and the food is halal standard prepared.Never have I seen Jhatka.My family and I have always enquired before touching any meat, and have always refrained from eating such.In one wedding of a realative , we refused to eat , as it was prepard by muslims and halal.After politely explaining, in the end just me and my family ended in a chinese restaurant to have our meal.The excuse for such use is that muslim friends also are invited to the weddings!</p><p> </p><p>This year in a top hotel, in KL; where 12 course dinner was served in a wedding celebration ,my wife was served meat, and as I returned to our table, she told me , apparently it was chicken and it was halal.Other Sikh guests all wearing turbans seated at the table; some were top names[ parbandhaks of main Gurduaras ] in KL were happily munching away like there is no tomorrow.I called the waiter and asked if this was chicken and halal, the waiter looked surprised that I should ask such a question along with the other ten Sikh males and females seated at our tabale, when he answered in the affirmative, and I asked him to remove our two plates, he obliged; but there was suddenly an unease at the table among the others.Although we kep silent and carried away our conversation ourselves.But soon the head waiter arrived to ask me if there was a problem and as I said, I do not take halal, he looked suprised and taken aback, looking at the other guests on the table. enquiringly who all remained quiet.He then at once courteously offered us qourn meat, as an alternative;which we declined and said we will skip the serving this time and informed him that apart from fish we will take not any other meat served.</p><p> </p><p>There was not a single word from among the Sikhs at the table, although, we noticed that they felt uncomfortable now eating that.</p><p> </p><p>Malaysians are fond of the local delicacy called satay which is put on skewers over a fire.The same brush used upon beef to dress is then used upon chicken or lamb meat.I have noted Sikh malaysians eating that as well without any hesitentcy.</p><p> </p><p>As halal is the norm standard , I have seen Sikhs queing in KFC, Macdonalds and indulging in halal chicken and beef quite commonly, in Malaysia.</p><p> </p><p>Yes, the few that follow the maryada do not consume , unless the meat is home prepared.</p><p> </p><p>We tend to stick to Chinese restaurents or vegetarian, or if the meat is made available freshly from the chinese shops.Where they will allow Sikhs to strike the jhatka initailly and then prepare the meat on individual requests.</p><p> </p><p>The bottom line is, halal or non halal is generally not a issue with Sikh Malaysians in the main.</p><p> </p><p>In fact, one day, my wife and I and my 16 old son were so shocked , and felt offended when a Sikh friend's Punjabi Sikh wife casually suggested that my son could cut his hair...when he was saying he felt very hot and wanted to have shower by letting his hair down!My friend at once interuppted her and said, dont talk rubbish!That is how insensitive some are about their own faith, having lived generations among non Sikhs or all religions and races.I guess as a minority such values will be lost over time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaan Pardesi, post: 134549, member: 7047"] "Some stay stay vegetarian. Others eat eggs and fish. Some less strict eat Halal. Others pay butchers to Jhatka it or do it themselves." I shall speak for Malaysia.Sikh Malaysians are different.Because they have lived in Malaysia since about 1872 officially; now it is the fifth or sixth generation running there. MOST are oblivion to the issue of Halal, even though many know that they are not supposed to consume Kutha.Only those, which is smaller number , who have attended the Sikh camps, and are close to their own culture and religion refrain from consuming halal products.In the main, most local Sikhs find it rather a run of the mill to eat halal.Many more may perhaps not consume beef, but non beef halal meat is readily consumed. Some claim that halal is cleaner as it is strictly monitored by the government.In malaysia, there is almost a halal equivalent for every product, even fish and vegetarian products are branded as complying to halal standards; as Malaysia has tried to project itself as the HUB of Halal in the world. Even Sikh functions held in hotels or non sikh restaurants [except for the chinese eateries where pork is served], halal meat is provided for.I understadn even the few Sikh restarants use halal, and may only provide the jhatka for Sikhs on request. Over the years, I have returned home often to weddings/fuctions where I note the caterers are non Sikhs, and the food is halal standard prepared.Never have I seen Jhatka.My family and I have always enquired before touching any meat, and have always refrained from eating such.In one wedding of a realative , we refused to eat , as it was prepard by muslims and halal.After politely explaining, in the end just me and my family ended in a chinese restaurant to have our meal.The excuse for such use is that muslim friends also are invited to the weddings! This year in a top hotel, in KL; where 12 course dinner was served in a wedding celebration ,my wife was served meat, and as I returned to our table, she told me , apparently it was chicken and it was halal.Other Sikh guests all wearing turbans seated at the table; some were top names[ parbandhaks of main Gurduaras ] in KL were happily munching away like there is no tomorrow.I called the waiter and asked if this was chicken and halal, the waiter looked surprised that I should ask such a question along with the other ten Sikh males and females seated at our tabale, when he answered in the affirmative, and I asked him to remove our two plates, he obliged; but there was suddenly an unease at the table among the others.Although we kep silent and carried away our conversation ourselves.But soon the head waiter arrived to ask me if there was a problem and as I said, I do not take halal, he looked suprised and taken aback, looking at the other guests on the table. enquiringly who all remained quiet.He then at once courteously offered us qourn meat, as an alternative;which we declined and said we will skip the serving this time and informed him that apart from fish we will take not any other meat served. There was not a single word from among the Sikhs at the table, although, we noticed that they felt uncomfortable now eating that. Malaysians are fond of the local delicacy called satay which is put on skewers over a fire.The same brush used upon beef to dress is then used upon chicken or lamb meat.I have noted Sikh malaysians eating that as well without any hesitentcy. As halal is the norm standard , I have seen Sikhs queing in KFC, Macdonalds and indulging in halal chicken and beef quite commonly, in Malaysia. Yes, the few that follow the maryada do not consume , unless the meat is home prepared. We tend to stick to Chinese restaurents or vegetarian, or if the meat is made available freshly from the chinese shops.Where they will allow Sikhs to strike the jhatka initailly and then prepare the meat on individual requests. The bottom line is, halal or non halal is generally not a issue with Sikh Malaysians in the main. In fact, one day, my wife and I and my 16 old son were so shocked , and felt offended when a Sikh friend's Punjabi Sikh wife casually suggested that my son could cut his hair...when he was saying he felt very hot and wanted to have shower by letting his hair down!My friend at once interuppted her and said, dont talk rubbish!That is how insensitive some are about their own faith, having lived generations among non Sikhs or all religions and races.I guess as a minority such values will be lost over time. [/QUOTE]
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