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Gurmat : Who Is The Deciding Authority
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<blockquote data-quote="simpy" data-source="post: 54742" data-attributes="member: 9395"><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Dear respected hps ji,</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Only a person with no knowledge of gurmukhi can say so. hps and all other supporters of this above question and thought simply need to learn GURMUKHI and must read Gurbani all the way through before asking and alongwith answering NO to such baseless question. </span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">For those who think Waheguru is not said in Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji –</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">It appeared in three Shabads-that too multiple times.</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">vwihgurU vwihgurU vwihgurU vwih jIau ]………..</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">siq swcu sRI invwsu Awid purKu sdw quhI vwihgurU vwihgurU vwihgurU vwih jIau ]………</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bhai Gurdas Ji the Saintly Soul writes so beautifully about Waheguru being gurmantra. </span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">gur isKhu gur isK hY pIr pIrhuM koeI]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sbd surq cylw gurU prmySr soeI]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">drSn idRSit iDAwn Dr guru mUriq hoeI]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sbd suriq kr kIrqn sqsMg ivloeI]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">vwihgurU gurU mMqR hY jp haumYN KoeI]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'">Awp gvwey Awp hY gux guxI proeI ]ò]</span></span></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">do we need any other proof??????? </span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And me neech understands that by adding the above lines Dhan Dhan Guru Sahib Ji confirmes it. It is CONCRETE. </span></span></strong><strong><u><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">GURU IS THE DECIDING AUTHORITY. OUR GURU, THE DIVINE LIGHT, EVERY GURSIKH IS SUPPOSED TO SERVE GURU JI by all means- word, body and mind........... </span></span></u></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">SIKHS ARE IN THE GAME OF LOVE: GURU SAHIB DA HUKAM HAI-</span></span></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">jau qau pRym Kylx kw cwau ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">isru Dir qlI glI myrI Awau ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">iequ mwrig pYru DrIjY ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'">isru dIjY kwix n kIjY ]</span></span></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sikh is in love with the Nirankaar roop Guru…….. And this love is unconditional. Guru is the deciding authority- accepting us neech or not, providing us with His Grace or not, OUR JOB IS ONLY–</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">SATGURU DI AGYAA SACH SACH KAR KE MANANNAA, without questions and doubts. THOSE WHO QUESTION GURU's WORD GURU JI TELLS ABOUT THEM-</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">slwmu jbwbu dovY kry muMFhu GuQw jwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'">nwnk dovY kUVIAw Qwie n kweI pwie ]</span></span></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">And me neech is surprised at the question and all the descriptions you made dear hps ji and asking WHO IS THE DECIDING AUTHORITY. This only shows that you are scared of the truth. WHY NOT WAHEGURU GOD????</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">EVEN IF YOU BELONG TO ANOTHER RELIGION OR FAITH :WHEN ALL IS GOD……..</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">THEN WHAT IS THE PROBLEM IN USING WAHEGURU AS NAAM/GOD’S NAME/BEEJ MANTRA……..</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">WHEN GOD IS ALL AND ALL IS GOD, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??????</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Hps Ji, THIS SHOWS THAT YOU ARE IN BIG DOUBT. ONCE IN A WHILE, JUST FOR ONE MINUTE IN YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE, TRY TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AROUND YOU AS THE CREATOR ITSELF- JUST TRY TO FEEL HIM AND ONLY HIM- MAY BE YOU WILL GET THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ANYBODY WHO IS A TRUE SEEKER, DOESN’T MATTER WHAT RELIGION/PATH ONE FOLLOWS, THIS QUESTION SHOWS THAT THIS PERSON NEEDS TO OPEN THE CLOSED WINDOWS OF HIS/HER MIND. THIS IS PURE DOUBT, me neech thinks that……</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Humbly asking for everybody’s forgiveness</span></span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simpy, post: 54742, member: 9395"] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]Dear respected hps ji,[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]Only a person with no knowledge of gurmukhi can say so. hps and all other supporters of this above question and thought simply need to learn GURMUKHI and must read Gurbani all the way through before asking and alongwith answering NO to such baseless question. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]For those who think Waheguru is not said in Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji –[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]It appeared in three Shabads-that too multiple times.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]vwihgurU vwihgurU vwihgurU vwih jIau ]………..[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]siq swcu sRI invwsu Awid purKu sdw quhI vwihgurU vwihgurU vwihgurU vwih jIau ]………[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][SIZE=3]Bhai Gurdas Ji the Saintly Soul writes so beautifully about Waheguru being gurmantra. [/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]gur isKhu gur isK hY pIr pIrhuM koeI][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]Sbd surq cylw gurU prmySr soeI][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]drSn idRSit iDAwn Dr guru mUriq hoeI][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]Sbd suriq kr kIrqn sqsMg ivloeI][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]vwihgurU gurU mMqR hY jp haumYN KoeI][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy]Awp gvwey Awp hY gux guxI proeI ]ò][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]do we need any other proof??????? [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana]And me neech understands that by adding the above lines Dhan Dhan Guru Sahib Ji confirmes it. It is CONCRETE. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][U][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]GURU IS THE DECIDING AUTHORITY. OUR GURU, THE DIVINE LIGHT, EVERY GURSIKH IS SUPPOSED TO SERVE GURU JI by all means- word, body and mind........... [/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana]SIKHS ARE IN THE GAME OF LOVE: GURU SAHIB DA HUKAM HAI-[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]jau qau pRym Kylx kw cwau ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]isru Dir qlI glI myrI Awau ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]iequ mwrig pYru DrIjY ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy]isru dIjY kwix n kIjY ][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]Sikh is in love with the Nirankaar roop Guru…….. And this love is unconditional. Guru is the deciding authority- accepting us neech or not, providing us with His Grace or not, OUR JOB IS ONLY–[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]SATGURU DI AGYAA SACH SACH KAR KE MANANNAA, without questions and doubts. THOSE WHO QUESTION GURU's WORD GURU JI TELLS ABOUT THEM-[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]slwmu jbwbu dovY kry muMFhu GuQw jwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy]nwnk dovY kUVIAw Qwie n kweI pwie ][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]And me neech is surprised at the question and all the descriptions you made dear hps ji and asking WHO IS THE DECIDING AUTHORITY. This only shows that you are scared of the truth. WHY NOT WAHEGURU GOD????[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]EVEN IF YOU BELONG TO ANOTHER RELIGION OR FAITH :WHEN ALL IS GOD……..[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]THEN WHAT IS THE PROBLEM IN USING WAHEGURU AS NAAM/GOD’S NAME/BEEJ MANTRA……..[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]WHEN GOD IS ALL AND ALL IS GOD, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??????[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]Hps Ji, THIS SHOWS THAT YOU ARE IN BIG DOUBT. ONCE IN A WHILE, JUST FOR ONE MINUTE IN YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE, TRY TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AROUND YOU AS THE CREATOR ITSELF- JUST TRY TO FEEL HIM AND ONLY HIM- MAY BE YOU WILL GET THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]ANYBODY WHO IS A TRUE SEEKER, DOESN’T MATTER WHAT RELIGION/PATH ONE FOLLOWS, THIS QUESTION SHOWS THAT THIS PERSON NEEDS TO OPEN THE CLOSED WINDOWS OF HIS/HER MIND. THIS IS PURE DOUBT, me neech thinks that……[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana]Humbly asking for everybody’s forgiveness[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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