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<blockquote data-quote="Harry Haller" data-source="post: 173099" data-attributes="member: 14641"><p>What you have done is perfectly natural and normal for many teenagers, the guilt you feel is misplaced, you have done nothing wrong</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Atheists are not all sex mad lust monsters, just as Sikhs are not all pious devout abstainers, you say you committed lust like it were a murder charge, lust is a part of us, we must learn to understand it, tame it, none of us are perfect, some that have no problem with lust might have a huge problem with say, anger, that does not make them any worse or better off than you. In whose eyes is this shameful? Gods? My take is that God really does not care what you do, it is yourself you must answer to, God sets the rules, God does not enforce them. Sikhism is not a punishment/reward based religion where you get max points for thinking about baby lambs and points deducted for lustful thoughts, the object of the game, in my view, is to educate and learn until your will, your thoughts reflect that of God, but to do so under duress or to force yourself is folly and false. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No one has the right to tell you that you are wrong....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Forgiven by who? Sikhism is not a religion that forgives, as there is no concept of sin in Sikhism, that is an Abrahamic concept, Jesus did not die for your sins, you are a Sikh. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please do not hate yourself for this, but if it helps you, I will share something personal with you, when I was your age, I also discovered the same, and I was convinced I was the only person in the world that could do it, the feelings of guilt and shame dominated those years until I broke down and confessed all to my parents. In time I understood that I was not the only filthy young boy in the world, and indeed all my friends were doing the same.You are young, you are maturing from a young girl into a woman, and your body is changing. All sorts of emotions and feelings will come, and they will pass. In time you will look back on this and wonder what all the fuss was about. It is important that, as you young people say, just be cool about it, to have an aversion is wrong, and to have an obsession is wrong, just be cool. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your darkness is self made, as you get older you will find many many other temptations that will also plunge you into darkness, it is important that you understand yourself, and also try and remember no one is looking down on you wagging a finger, you answer only to yourself. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are two issues here, firstly, if you have done it, and don't wish to do it anymore, and are concerned about doing it in the first place, then you really have nothing to worry about, move on and forgive yourself. </p><p></p><p>If however, you feel you have developed an addiction, that is a different matter. Addiction is not a good thing, it develops guilt and can put you in a very dark place, it wastes time, it stops your focus on things that matter, you forget the warm sun, the trees, the leaves, the lick of a dog on your nose, a cuddle from your mom or your dad, it focuses everything on one tiny aspect of life. If you find yourself feeling this way, focus on Creation, on everything beautiful the world has to offer, addiction can be quite isolating, it turns you into a loner, balance here is the key, as well as moderation. </p><p></p><p>Good Luckkudihug</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harry Haller, post: 173099, member: 14641"] What you have done is perfectly natural and normal for many teenagers, the guilt you feel is misplaced, you have done nothing wrong Atheists are not all sex mad lust monsters, just as Sikhs are not all pious devout abstainers, you say you committed lust like it were a murder charge, lust is a part of us, we must learn to understand it, tame it, none of us are perfect, some that have no problem with lust might have a huge problem with say, anger, that does not make them any worse or better off than you. In whose eyes is this shameful? Gods? My take is that God really does not care what you do, it is yourself you must answer to, God sets the rules, God does not enforce them. Sikhism is not a punishment/reward based religion where you get max points for thinking about baby lambs and points deducted for lustful thoughts, the object of the game, in my view, is to educate and learn until your will, your thoughts reflect that of God, but to do so under duress or to force yourself is folly and false. No one has the right to tell you that you are wrong.... Forgiven by who? Sikhism is not a religion that forgives, as there is no concept of sin in Sikhism, that is an Abrahamic concept, Jesus did not die for your sins, you are a Sikh. Please do not hate yourself for this, but if it helps you, I will share something personal with you, when I was your age, I also discovered the same, and I was convinced I was the only person in the world that could do it, the feelings of guilt and shame dominated those years until I broke down and confessed all to my parents. In time I understood that I was not the only filthy young boy in the world, and indeed all my friends were doing the same.You are young, you are maturing from a young girl into a woman, and your body is changing. All sorts of emotions and feelings will come, and they will pass. In time you will look back on this and wonder what all the fuss was about. It is important that, as you young people say, just be cool about it, to have an aversion is wrong, and to have an obsession is wrong, just be cool. Your darkness is self made, as you get older you will find many many other temptations that will also plunge you into darkness, it is important that you understand yourself, and also try and remember no one is looking down on you wagging a finger, you answer only to yourself. There are two issues here, firstly, if you have done it, and don't wish to do it anymore, and are concerned about doing it in the first place, then you really have nothing to worry about, move on and forgive yourself. If however, you feel you have developed an addiction, that is a different matter. Addiction is not a good thing, it develops guilt and can put you in a very dark place, it wastes time, it stops your focus on things that matter, you forget the warm sun, the trees, the leaves, the lick of a dog on your nose, a cuddle from your mom or your dad, it focuses everything on one tiny aspect of life. If you find yourself feeling this way, focus on Creation, on everything beautiful the world has to offer, addiction can be quite isolating, it turns you into a loner, balance here is the key, as well as moderation. Good Luckkudihug [/QUOTE]
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