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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="paz.y.amor" data-source="post: 95302" data-attributes="member: 7988"><p>Abortion is quite a sticky topic. I myself have immense difficulty stating a solid position on the issue. However, in the case of this girl, my viewpoint does not waver. The Church had no right to excommunicate her mother and her doctors for this abortion. She was a nine year old pregnant with twins, <em>a nine year old pregnant with twins</em>. Had she carried out the pregnancy, she could have affected her physical health. Additionally, the pregnancy and alleged abuse had already taken a blow to her mental health. Moreover, how would the lives be of those twins and that little girl? How would life be for the little girl’s mother? [/FONT]</p><p> The Church is worried about the termination of innocent lives, well, what about the innocent life of that nine year old girl? Doesn’t she have the right to live a healthy, long life? Doesn’t she deserve to make her life as positive as it can possibly be after what she’s been through? Doesn’t her life matter, at all? How is it fair that her mother and the doctors get excommunicated for trying to save this girl’s life? The mother was doing whatever she could to protect her daughter and the doctors were doing whatever they could to save a life, this little girl’s life, a life that has already spanned nine years. [/FONT]</p><p> I’ve heard quite a bit over the years, the common question, “What would Jesus do?” Well, in this situation, honestly, “<em>What would Jesus do</em>?” Do you honestly think Jesus would force this child to become a mother at nine years old? Do you honestly think Jesus would condone this child to give birth to those twins if it meant seriously affecting her physical health? Do you really think that Jesus would disown either her, her mother, or her doctors for trying to save her life? I don’t think he would. [/FONT]</p><p> It is situations like this, which truly dishearten me, sadden me, and outrage me. Religion in my opinion is supposed to be a medium of guidance and positivity. Religion is what people turn to for strength and happiness. However, this decision by the Church is not any form of strength or happiness, it’s not positive at all. Actually, there is no one term to sum it up, to call it parochial would be to undermine its negative and close-minded force. [/FONT]</p><p> The Church feels a need to protect innocent lives; however, apparently the nine year old child’s life did not matter to them. According to the Church, this child should have attempted to carry out her pregnancy, and either face serious medical complications that could endanger her and <em>her children</em> or become a mother at nine years old and face psychological turmoil everyday of her life. </p><p>[/FONT]</p><p></p><p></p><p>-Jaskeerat Kaur</p><p>[/FONT]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="paz.y.amor, post: 95302, member: 7988"] Abortion is quite a sticky topic. I myself have immense difficulty stating a solid position on the issue. However, in the case of this girl, my viewpoint does not waver. The Church had no right to excommunicate her mother and her doctors for this abortion. She was a nine year old pregnant with twins, [I]a nine year old pregnant with twins[/I]. Had she carried out the pregnancy, she could have affected her physical health. Additionally, the pregnancy and alleged abuse had already taken a blow to her mental health. Moreover, how would the lives be of those twins and that little girl? How would life be for the little girl’s mother? [/FONT] The Church is worried about the termination of innocent lives, well, what about the innocent life of that nine year old girl? Doesn’t she have the right to live a healthy, long life? Doesn’t she deserve to make her life as positive as it can possibly be after what she’s been through? Doesn’t her life matter, at all? How is it fair that her mother and the doctors get excommunicated for trying to save this girl’s life? The mother was doing whatever she could to protect her daughter and the doctors were doing whatever they could to save a life, this little girl’s life, a life that has already spanned nine years. [/FONT] I’ve heard quite a bit over the years, the common question, “What would Jesus do?” Well, in this situation, honestly, “[I]What would Jesus do[/I]?” Do you honestly think Jesus would force this child to become a mother at nine years old? Do you honestly think Jesus would condone this child to give birth to those twins if it meant seriously affecting her physical health? Do you really think that Jesus would disown either her, her mother, or her doctors for trying to save her life? I don’t think he would. [/FONT] It is situations like this, which truly dishearten me, sadden me, and outrage me. Religion in my opinion is supposed to be a medium of guidance and positivity. Religion is what people turn to for strength and happiness. However, this decision by the Church is not any form of strength or happiness, it’s not positive at all. Actually, there is no one term to sum it up, to call it parochial would be to undermine its negative and close-minded force. [/FONT] The Church feels a need to protect innocent lives; however, apparently the nine year old child’s life did not matter to them. According to the Church, this child should have attempted to carry out her pregnancy, and either face serious medical complications that could endanger her and [I]her children[/I] or become a mother at nine years old and face psychological turmoil everyday of her life. [/FONT] -Jaskeerat Kaur [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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