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<blockquote data-quote="Randip Singh" data-source="post: 63860" data-attributes="member: 1323"><p>From the essay:</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>HUKAMNAMA ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY THE 6TH MASTER</strong> </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: royalblue">Some pro-vegetarian sections of the Sikh following have produced an alleged Hukamnama that states that the Sikhs of the East were not to go near meat. Unfortunately, the sources that have produced this Hukamnama, have not been able to back it up with any evidence of its genuineness, from any Sikh scholars of note. There have been statements to the effect that Ganda Singh found this document and indeed published it (Two collections of Hukamnamas are available in print form, one edited by Dr. Ganda Singh published in 1968 by Punjabi University and the S.G.P.C), but this has not been verified by any of his contemporaries or any other Sikh scholars.. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Historical evidence, in fact contradicts what Guru Hargobind ji was actually like. He was an avid hunter and warrior. Again this fact some have tried to dismiss as Guruji giving Mukhti to animals souls. This, however, contradicts the Guru’s own philosophy which clearly states that only God is capable of granting such things. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Infact Bhai Gudas in his Vars States: </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Just as one has to tie pail's neck while taking out water</span></em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">, </span></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Just as to get Mani, snake is to be killed</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Just as to get Kasturi from deer's neck, deer is to be killed</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Just as to get oil, oil seeds are to be crushed</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">To get kernel, pomegranate is to be broken</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Similarly to correct senseless people, sword has to be taken up.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Bhai Gurdas, Var-34, pauri 13 </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">In fact such a hukamna would indeed contradict the one Guru Gobind Singh ji sent to his Sikhs in Kabul (ADVANCED STUDIES IN SIKHISM by Jasbir Singh and Harbans Singh.): </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">"Sarbat sangat Kabul Guru rakhe ga</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Tusa ute asaadee bahut khusi hai</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Tusi Khande da Amrit Panja to lena</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Kes rakhne...ih asadee mohur hair;</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Kachh, Kirpan da visah nahee karna</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">SARB LOH da kara hath rakhna</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Dono vakat kesa dee palna karna</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Sarbat sangat abhakhia da kutha</span></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Khave naheen, Tamakoo na vartana</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Bhadni tatha kanya-maran-vale so mel na rakhe</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Meene, Massandei, Ramraiye ki sangat na baiso</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Gurbani parhni...Waheguru, Waheguru japna</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Guru kee rahat rakhnee</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Sarbat sangat oopar meri khushi hai.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Patshahi Dasvi</span></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Jeth 26, Samat 1756</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">To the entire sangat at Kabul.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">The Guru will protect the Sangat,</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I am pleased with you all.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">You should take baptism by the sword, from the Five Beloveds.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Keep your hair uncut for this is a seal of the Guru,</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Accept the use of shorts and a sword.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Always wear IRON KARA on your wrist,</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Keep your hair clean and comb it twice a day.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Do not eat Halal (Kosher) meat,</span></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Do not use tobacco in any form,</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Have no connection with those who kill their daughters</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Or permit the cutting of their children's hair.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Do not associate with Meenas, Massands and Ram-raiyas (anti-Sikh cults)</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Recite the Guru's hymns</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Meditate on "The Name of our Wonderful Lord",</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Follow the Sikh code of discipline</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I give the entire sangat my blessing)</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Signature of 10th Guru </span></span></p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Jeth 26, 1756 Bikrami 23rd May 1699 A.D </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: royalblue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">As we know, there is no contradiction in the Guru’s message. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: royalblue">It should be noted also that there are a number of Hukamnama’s that have been found that also purport Sikhs to adopt Brahmanical religious tenets.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: black">So there are two questions here:</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: black">1) Why would a contemporary of Guru Hargobind state its OK to kill a Dear just to get "Kasturi". Scroll up and you see Bhai Gurdas prasing meat?</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: black">2) Why would Guru Gobind Singh ji say: <span style="color: #4169e1">Do not eat Halal (Kosher) meat, </span><span style="color: black">and not meat per say.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">3) Note also Dr Ganda Singh stated he could not verify that Hukamnama.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: black"><strong>The Real Issues of this Essay are:</strong></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: black"><strong>1) Is it OK to quote one or two lines from Bani without destroying the meaning of the shabad?</strong></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: black"><strong>2) Are we taking metaphors literally? Varan Bhai Gurdas and Bani are full of metaphors?</strong></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: black"><strong>3) Do some words in Gurmukhi accurately translate eg Murdaar = The dead/carrion ; it has been wrongly translated as meat. Halaal/Bismil = ritual sacrifice and has been wrongly translated as to mean Kill. There are other examples.</strong></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: black"><strong>4) Is the real issue about meat or about our own perception and prejudice?</strong></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Randip Singh, post: 63860, member: 1323"] From the essay: [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial][B]HUKAMNAMA ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY THE 6TH MASTER[/B] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=royalblue]Some pro-vegetarian sections of the Sikh following have produced an alleged Hukamnama that states that the Sikhs of the East were not to go near meat. Unfortunately, the sources that have produced this Hukamnama, have not been able to back it up with any evidence of its genuineness, from any Sikh scholars of note. There have been statements to the effect that Ganda Singh found this document and indeed published it (Two collections of Hukamnamas are available in print form, one edited by Dr. Ganda Singh published in 1968 by Punjabi University and the S.G.P.C), but this has not been verified by any of his contemporaries or any other Sikh scholars.. [/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Historical evidence, in fact contradicts what Guru Hargobind ji was actually like. He was an avid hunter and warrior. Again this fact some have tried to dismiss as Guruji giving Mukhti to animals souls. This, however, contradicts the Guru’s own philosophy which clearly states that only God is capable of granting such things. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Infact Bhai Gudas in his Vars States: [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Just as one has to tie pail's neck while taking out water[/FONT][/I][FONT=Arial], [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Just as to get Mani, snake is to be killed[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Just as to get Kasturi from deer's neck, deer is to be killed[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Just as to get oil, oil seeds are to be crushed[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]To get kernel, pomegranate is to be broken[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Similarly to correct senseless people, sword has to be taken up.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Bhai Gurdas, Var-34, pauri 13 [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]In fact such a hukamna would indeed contradict the one Guru Gobind Singh ji sent to his Sikhs in Kabul (ADVANCED STUDIES IN SIKHISM by Jasbir Singh and Harbans Singh.): [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]"Sarbat sangat Kabul Guru rakhe ga[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Tusa ute asaadee bahut khusi hai[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Tusi Khande da Amrit Panja to lena[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Kes rakhne...ih asadee mohur hair;[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Kachh, Kirpan da visah nahee karna[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]SARB LOH da kara hath rakhna[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Dono vakat kesa dee palna karna[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Sarbat sangat abhakhia da kutha[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Khave naheen, Tamakoo na vartana[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Bhadni tatha kanya-maran-vale so mel na rakhe[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Meene, Massandei, Ramraiye ki sangat na baiso[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Gurbani parhni...Waheguru, Waheguru japna[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Guru kee rahat rakhnee[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Sarbat sangat oopar meri khushi hai.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Patshahi Dasvi[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Jeth 26, Samat 1756[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]To the entire sangat at Kabul.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]The Guru will protect the Sangat,[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]I am pleased with you all.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]You should take baptism by the sword, from the Five Beloveds.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Keep your hair uncut for this is a seal of the Guru,[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Accept the use of shorts and a sword.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Always wear IRON KARA on your wrist,[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Keep your hair clean and comb it twice a day.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Do not eat Halal (Kosher) meat,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Do not use tobacco in any form,[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Have no connection with those who kill their daughters[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Or permit the cutting of their children's hair.[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Do not associate with Meenas, Massands and Ram-raiyas (anti-Sikh cults)[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Recite the Guru's hymns[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Meditate on "The Name of our Wonderful Lord",[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]Follow the Sikh code of discipline[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][I][FONT=Arial]I give the entire sangat my blessing)[/FONT][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Signature of 10th Guru [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]Jeth 26, 1756 Bikrami 23rd May 1699 A.D [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=royalblue][FONT=Arial]As we know, there is no contradiction in the Guru’s message. [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=royalblue]It should be noted also that there are a number of Hukamnama’s that have been found that also purport Sikhs to adopt Brahmanical religious tenets.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black]So there are two questions here:[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black]1) Why would a contemporary of Guru Hargobind state its OK to kill a Dear just to get "Kasturi". Scroll up and you see Bhai Gurdas prasing meat?[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black]2) Why would Guru Gobind Singh ji say: [COLOR=#4169e1]Do not eat Halal (Kosher) meat, [/COLOR][COLOR=black]and not meat per say.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]3) Note also Dr Ganda Singh stated he could not verify that Hukamnama.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black][B]The Real Issues of this Essay are:[/B][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black][B]1) Is it OK to quote one or two lines from Bani without destroying the meaning of the shabad?[/B][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black][B]2) Are we taking metaphors literally? Varan Bhai Gurdas and Bani are full of metaphors?[/B][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black][B]3) Do some words in Gurmukhi accurately translate eg Murdaar = The dead/carrion ; it has been wrongly translated as meat. Halaal/Bismil = ritual sacrifice and has been wrongly translated as to mean Kill. There are other examples.[/B][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=black][B]4) Is the real issue about meat or about our own perception and prejudice?[/B][/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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