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<blockquote data-quote="ekmusafir_ajnabi" data-source="post: 57627" data-attributes="member: 4318"><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I shall never be your friend. As far as spirituality is concerned you do not know the ABC of it. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Seniority ? This musafir is senior to you in every aspect. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">As far as Gurus are concerned, this musafir was a life long companion of Guru Amar Das ji. I witnessed the Guruship of Guru Amar Das ji. I have lived and travellerd with my Gurus. I need not tell you anymore. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Personal attacks? What personal attacks? So you do have an EGO. An ENORMOUS ONE. Just admit it and perhaps we will move forward.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Yours is not freedom of speech but a display of lack of spiritual knowledge and a show of frustration and a burning desire for Recognition.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Point 1 – I will do that in good time. You are no match to challenge me. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Point 2 – Ignore wikipedia and stick to what I have put forward.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Point 3 – I do not know of Hari Singh but if the contents were his then I must congratulate him he has the blessings of Our Gurus.</span></span></p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles</a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles</a></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles</a></u><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles</a></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles</a></span></span></em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">This says all I need to know. <strong>You are no scholar. </strong>You have no right to enforce you Kalyugi views on people who are looking for a spiritual direction from Sikhism. What further can I discuss with you. You will not understand and I have no time for sceptics.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This is another example amplifying lack of spiritual knowledge. I have given you a hint which you have clearly missed. How can I discuss with one who is comparatively primitive.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">These threats have no bearing on me. What is the matter? Lost for words or knowledge. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You cannot even agree with me on the primary beliefs of Sikhism and are running off to ask you seniors for verifications and yet you want to discuss Sikhism with me. You want to discuss the meanings of Shabads with me. You have no credibility.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Page 467</span></span><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> SGGS</span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Shalok, First Mehl:</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Men, trees, sacred shrines of pilgrimage, banks of sacred rivers, clouds, fields,</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">islands, continents, worlds, solar systems, and universes;</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">the four sources of creation - born of eggs, born of the womb, born of the earth and born of sweat;</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">oceans, mountains, and all beings - O Nanak, He alone knows their condition.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">O Nanak, having created the living beings, He cherishes them all.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Creator who created the creation, takes care of it as well.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">He, the Creator who formed the world, cares for it.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Unto Him I bow and offer my reverence; His Royal Court is eternal.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">O Nanak, without the True Name, of what use is the frontal mark of the Hindus, or their sacred thread? ||1||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">And in Chopae Patshahi 10</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharHeavy'">pwÚ 10 kibXobwc bynqI ] cOpeI ]</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharHeavy'">AMfj jyrj syqj kInI ] auqBuj Kwin bhur ric dInI ]8]</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Andaj (born of eggs – Bird life) </span></span></p><p><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Jaireg (born of Womb – Humans and Animals)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Utbhuj(born of earth - Vegetation) and</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Setej (born of sweat, Humidity – Lice, insects etc (spontaneous generation – insects after rainfalls)</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Now perhaps you are unique and fall outside this creation?</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></span></strong> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You consider yourself as the know all in this forum. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">YOU PROVE IT. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You are the self confessed Sikh Historian , </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">YOU PROOVE IT.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Out of sheer sympathy, I am leaving you some hints?</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Check if Ballard Singers were allowed to sing in the Gurus Darbar ?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Why should a Ballard Singer be mediating between Guru ji and Banda ?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Does this Ballard singers name appear among the poets of Guru Gobind Singh ji as claimed. Quite conveniently his writing are completed one day after the Guru ji’ departure from us ?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Why should the whole flock of goats be slaughtered ? To win the favours of Banda?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">One who follows the doctrines of Guru Nanak will behave in this manner with Guru Gobind Singh?</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Now you do the search and justify your “Sikh Historian” title.</span></span></p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Sikhism primary beliefs and principles</span></u></span></a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_underlying_values" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Sikhism underlying values</span></u></span></a> - Reply with reasons to this.</span></span></em></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I do not intend to be personal with you but you are leaving me no choice due to your vile comments about Sikhism and Spirituality. Banning me from this forum would not achieve anything. Be a man and say what you want to say in the forum and not through private messages. It will be a loss to the Forum. Besides I have no time for Hypocrites especially among the Moderators. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">My sincere apollogies to all those that have True faith in Our Gurus.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Ekmusafir_ajnabi</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ekmusafir_ajnabi, post: 57627, member: 4318"] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I shall never be your friend. As far as spirituality is concerned you do not know the ABC of it. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Seniority ? This musafir is senior to you in every aspect. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]As far as Gurus are concerned, this musafir was a life long companion of Guru Amar Das ji. I witnessed the Guruship of Guru Amar Das ji. I have lived and travellerd with my Gurus. I need not tell you anymore. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Personal attacks? What personal attacks? So you do have an EGO. An ENORMOUS ONE. Just admit it and perhaps we will move forward.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][/COLOR] [FONT=Verdana]Yours is not freedom of speech but a display of lack of spiritual knowledge and a show of frustration and a burning desire for Recognition.[/FONT] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Point 1 – I will do that in good time. You are no match to challenge me. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Point 2 – Ignore wikipedia and stick to what I have put forward.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Point 3 – I do not know of Hari Singh but if the contents were his then I must congratulate him he has the blessings of Our Gurus.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [I][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles"][FONT='Times New Roman'][U][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/URL][FONT='Times New Roman'][U][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles"][/url][/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles"][/url][/U][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles"][/url][/FONT][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles"][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/I][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]This says all I need to know. [B]You are no scholar. [/B]You have no right to enforce you Kalyugi views on people who are looking for a spiritual direction from Sikhism. What further can I discuss with you. You will not understand and I have no time for sceptics.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=#5b5b5b][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]This is another example amplifying lack of spiritual knowledge. I have given you a hint which you have clearly missed. How can I discuss with one who is comparatively primitive.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]These threats have no bearing on me. What is the matter? Lost for words or knowledge. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You cannot even agree with me on the primary beliefs of Sikhism and are running off to ask you seniors for verifications and yet you want to discuss Sikhism with me. You want to discuss the meanings of Shabads with me. You have no credibility.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Page 467[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana] SGGS[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Shalok, First Mehl:[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Men, trees, sacred shrines of pilgrimage, banks of sacred rivers, clouds, fields,[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]islands, continents, worlds, solar systems, and universes;[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]the four sources of creation - born of eggs, born of the womb, born of the earth and born of sweat;[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]oceans, mountains, and all beings - O Nanak, He alone knows their condition.[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]O Nanak, having created the living beings, He cherishes them all.[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The Creator who created the creation, takes care of it as well.[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]He, the Creator who formed the world, cares for it.[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Unto Him I bow and offer my reverence; His Royal Court is eternal.[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]O Nanak, without the True Name, of what use is the frontal mark of the Hindus, or their sacred thread? ||1||[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]And in Chopae Patshahi 10[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=GurbaniAkharHeavy]pwÚ 10 kibXobwc bynqI ] cOpeI ][/FONT] [FONT=GurbaniAkharHeavy]AMfj jyrj syqj kInI ] auqBuj Kwin bhur ric dInI ]8][/FONT] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][/COLOR] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Andaj (born of eggs – Bird life) [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Verdana]Jaireg (born of Womb – Humans and Animals)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Utbhuj(born of earth - Vegetation) and[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Setej (born of sweat, Humidity – Lice, insects etc (spontaneous generation – insects after rainfalls)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Now perhaps you are unique and fall outside this creation?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You consider yourself as the know all in this forum. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]YOU PROVE IT. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You are the self confessed Sikh Historian , [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]YOU PROOVE IT.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Out of sheer sympathy, I am leaving you some hints?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Check if Ballard Singers were allowed to sing in the Gurus Darbar ?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Why should a Ballard Singer be mediating between Guru ji and Banda ?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Does this Ballard singers name appear among the poets of Guru Gobind Singh ji as claimed. Quite conveniently his writing are completed one day after the Guru ji’ departure from us ?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Why should the whole flock of goats be slaughtered ? To win the favours of Banda?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]One who follows the doctrines of Guru Nanak will behave in this manner with Guru Gobind Singh?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Now you do the search and justify your “Sikh Historian” title.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [I][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_primary_beliefs_and_principles"][FONT='Times New Roman'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Sikhism primary beliefs and principles[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_underlying_values"][FONT='Times New Roman'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Sikhism underlying values[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/URL] - Reply with reasons to this.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=#5b5b5b][/COLOR][/I] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I do not intend to be personal with you but you are leaving me no choice due to your vile comments about Sikhism and Spirituality. Banning me from this forum would not achieve anything. Be a man and say what you want to say in the forum and not through private messages. It will be a loss to the Forum. Besides I have no time for Hypocrites especially among the Moderators. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]My sincere apollogies to all those that have True faith in Our Gurus.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Ekmusafir_ajnabi[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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