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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 154102" data-attributes="member: 35"><p><strong>Re: Egotism and Egoism - Does Gurbani or Punjabi differentiate?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When we come back to the question of ego, then we are indeed looking at ahankar. But that does not translate well imho into ego. Ego in its western sense is both good and bad. Not so ahankar. The beauty of Punjabi is that a single word can pack a punch that is so full of subtle grades of meaning. English cannot do that. English needs many related words to achieve what Punjabi gets to in one word.</p><p></p><p>Personally, and members correct me, but ahankar gives a bigger picture of Prideful Self, to be full of conceit. It is ego run amok, not unlike a teenage elephant who breaks from his handler and tears up a corn field because "I AM WHO I AM" ... and how dare anyone try to rein me in? <em>Sometimes in Gurbani, elephant is a symbol of mind, seat of ego. ਮਨੁ ਮੈਗਲੁ ਸਾਕਤੁ ਦੇਵਾਨਾ ॥Man maigal sākaṯ ḏevānā.The mind of the faithless cynic is like a crazy elephant. </em> For humans, this, in my way of understanding, arises from a sense of HAUMEI...that we are not interconnected, or not understanding that when I hurt you I am also hurting myself through pride in self.</p><p></p><p>I think of this example: A really naughty boy puts chewing gum on the teacher's chair. She sits on it, and then is enraged by the fact that the children are laughing away. She finds out who did it. <em>Now we have ahankar/pride of self mixed with Krod/anger, the two often go hand in hand. </em> The trouble with ego now begins. Rightfully she is angered by the lack of respect of HER VERY IMPORTANT SELF. But wrongly she begins a campaign of getting even with that boy. She humiliates him at each turn. Gives him lower grades. What is she teaching him? Certainly not how to respect teachers. She is not teaching how to be just or fair. She is teaching him to be a cynic and he learns that this is a world where it is better to get someone else before they can get you. So both teacher and child are losers from this experience. Maybe she is even teaching him how to be an oppressive government official or a dictator. </p><p></p><p>The way out Guru Amardas ji tells us:</p><p></p><p>ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ ॥ </p><p>सलोकु मः ३ ॥ </p><p>Salok mėhlā 3. </p><p>Shalok, Third Mehl: </p><p></p><p>ਹਸਤੀ ਸਿਰਿ ਜਿਉ ਅੰਕਸੁ ਹੈ ਅਹਰਣਿ ਜਿਉ ਸਿਰੁ ਦੇਇ ॥ </p><p>हसती सिरि जिउ अंकसु है अहरणि जिउ सिरु देइ ॥ </p><p>Hasṯī sir ji▫o ankas hai ahraṇ ji▫o sir ḏe▫e. </p><p>The elephant offers its head to the reins, and the anvil offers itself to the hammer; </p><p></p><p>ਮਨੁ ਤਨੁ ਆਗੈ ਰਾਖਿ ਕੈ ਊਭੀ ਸੇਵ ਕਰੇਇ ॥ </p><p>मनु तनु आगै राखि कै ऊभी सेव करेइ ॥ </p><p>Man ṯan āgai rākẖ kai ūbẖī sev kare▫i. </p><p>just so, we offer our minds and bodies to our Guru; we stand before Him, and serve Him</p><p></p><p>ਇਉ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਆਪੁ ਨਿਵਾਰੀਐ ਸਭੁ ਰਾਜੁ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਕਾ ਲੇਇ ॥ </p><p>इउ गुरमुखि आपु निवारीऐ सभु राजु स्रिसटि का लेइ ॥ </p><p>I▫o gurmukẖ āp nivārī▫ai sabẖ rāj sarisat kā le▫e. </p><p>This is how the Gurmukhs eliminate their self-conceit, and come to rule the whole world. </p><p></p><p>ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬੁਝੀਐ ਜਾ ਆਪੇ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇਇ ॥੧॥ </p><p>नानक गुरमुखि बुझीऐ जा आपे नदरि करेइ ॥१॥ </p><p>Nānak gurmukẖ bujẖī▫ai jā āpe naḏar kare▫i. ||1|| </p><p>O Guru Nanak, the Gurmukh understands, when the Lord casts His Glance of Grace. ||1|| </p><p></p><p>Ang 546/547</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 154102, member: 35"] [b]Re: Egotism and Egoism - Does Gurbani or Punjabi differentiate?[/b] When we come back to the question of ego, then we are indeed looking at ahankar. But that does not translate well imho into ego. Ego in its western sense is both good and bad. Not so ahankar. The beauty of Punjabi is that a single word can pack a punch that is so full of subtle grades of meaning. English cannot do that. English needs many related words to achieve what Punjabi gets to in one word. Personally, and members correct me, but ahankar gives a bigger picture of Prideful Self, to be full of conceit. It is ego run amok, not unlike a teenage elephant who breaks from his handler and tears up a corn field because "I AM WHO I AM" ... and how dare anyone try to rein me in? [I]Sometimes in Gurbani, elephant is a symbol of mind, seat of ego. ਮਨੁ ਮੈਗਲੁ ਸਾਕਤੁ ਦੇਵਾਨਾ ॥Man maigal sākaṯ ḏevānā.The mind of the faithless cynic is like a crazy elephant. [/I] For humans, this, in my way of understanding, arises from a sense of HAUMEI...that we are not interconnected, or not understanding that when I hurt you I am also hurting myself through pride in self. I think of this example: A really naughty boy puts chewing gum on the teacher's chair. She sits on it, and then is enraged by the fact that the children are laughing away. She finds out who did it. [I]Now we have ahankar/pride of self mixed with Krod/anger, the two often go hand in hand. [/I] The trouble with ego now begins. Rightfully she is angered by the lack of respect of HER VERY IMPORTANT SELF. But wrongly she begins a campaign of getting even with that boy. She humiliates him at each turn. Gives him lower grades. What is she teaching him? Certainly not how to respect teachers. She is not teaching how to be just or fair. She is teaching him to be a cynic and he learns that this is a world where it is better to get someone else before they can get you. So both teacher and child are losers from this experience. Maybe she is even teaching him how to be an oppressive government official or a dictator. The way out Guru Amardas ji tells us: ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ ॥ सलोकु मः ३ ॥ Salok mėhlā 3. Shalok, Third Mehl: ਹਸਤੀ ਸਿਰਿ ਜਿਉ ਅੰਕਸੁ ਹੈ ਅਹਰਣਿ ਜਿਉ ਸਿਰੁ ਦੇਇ ॥ हसती सिरि जिउ अंकसु है अहरणि जिउ सिरु देइ ॥ Hasṯī sir ji▫o ankas hai ahraṇ ji▫o sir ḏe▫e. The elephant offers its head to the reins, and the anvil offers itself to the hammer; ਮਨੁ ਤਨੁ ਆਗੈ ਰਾਖਿ ਕੈ ਊਭੀ ਸੇਵ ਕਰੇਇ ॥ मनु तनु आगै राखि कै ऊभी सेव करेइ ॥ Man ṯan āgai rākẖ kai ūbẖī sev kare▫i. just so, we offer our minds and bodies to our Guru; we stand before Him, and serve Him ਇਉ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਆਪੁ ਨਿਵਾਰੀਐ ਸਭੁ ਰਾਜੁ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਕਾ ਲੇਇ ॥ इउ गुरमुखि आपु निवारीऐ सभु राजु स्रिसटि का लेइ ॥ I▫o gurmukẖ āp nivārī▫ai sabẖ rāj sarisat kā le▫e. This is how the Gurmukhs eliminate their self-conceit, and come to rule the whole world. ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬੁਝੀਐ ਜਾ ਆਪੇ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇਇ ॥੧॥ नानक गुरमुखि बुझीऐ जा आपे नदरि करेइ ॥१॥ Nānak gurmukẖ bujẖī▫ai jā āpe naḏar kare▫i. ||1|| O Guru Nanak, the Gurmukh understands, when the Lord casts His Glance of Grace. ||1|| Ang 546/547 [/QUOTE]
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