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Gurbani (1118-1123)
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Gurbani (1125-1152)
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Gurbani (1294-96)
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<blockquote data-quote="Harkiran Kaur" data-source="post: 204586" data-attributes="member: 18224"><p>Whether or not you use juggler or actor... or I have also seen it as 'director' its still speaking about Creator and not the individual. While you are looking at it from a physical only standpoint, which I am not dico{censored}ing can also work since I believe it does work on several different layers. But you are not also looking at it from the perspective of the creator. So while I am acknowledging that possibly it can also be speaking about psychology of humans, its also speaking about creation and God. You have not addressed how this part of the shabad can be speaking about us on a personal level (as in psychology or the mind). </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਸਾਂਗੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਉਤਾਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%93" target="_blank">ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਓ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਪਾਸਾਰਾ </a>॥</p><p>Sāʼng uṯār thamiĥa▫o pāsārā.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%AC" target="_blank">ਤਬ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank">ਏਕੋ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ </a>॥੧॥</p><p>Ŧab eko ekankārā. ||1||</p><p></p><p>If its speaking about just our limited human physical life and our mind... then why is Ik Onkar when is left when all these (multiple personalities?) are removed? Even if you take it as multiple personalities etc. then when you remove them Ik Onkar is left. If you are saying this is merely about human on personal level and no meaning with Creator at all.. then its still saying that once we remove all these guises we are Ik Onkar. So... we each individual our true identity is Ik Onkar... </p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Also, 'maan' or mind is not used once in this shabad. If it were speaking only about the mind, wouldn't the word mind be used at least once??? </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The Actor, Juggler whatever meaning you want to attach to that word, it is speaking about Creator, and not the individual. I just can't see how it can... I have also consulted a Gyani I know for his input, and he does not see this being on a purely human and physical level at all. He interprets it as speaking of Waheguru playing all of the characters (all forms - and not just human). He is SMC trained if that makes a difference... I am also taking the SMC two year study via correspondence. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harkiran Kaur, post: 204586, member: 18224"] Whether or not you use juggler or actor... or I have also seen it as 'director' its still speaking about Creator and not the individual. While you are looking at it from a physical only standpoint, which I am not dico{censored}ing can also work since I believe it does work on several different layers. But you are not also looking at it from the perspective of the creator. So while I am acknowledging that possibly it can also be speaking about psychology of humans, its also speaking about creation and God. You have not addressed how this part of the shabad can be speaking about us on a personal level (as in psychology or the mind). [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81']ਸਾਂਗੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਉਤਾਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%93']ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਓ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਪਾਸਾਰਾ [/URL]॥ Sāʼng uṯār thamiĥa▫o pāsārā. [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%AC']ਤਬ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B']ਏਕੋ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ [/URL]॥੧॥ Ŧab eko ekankārā. ||1|| If its speaking about just our limited human physical life and our mind... then why is Ik Onkar when is left when all these (multiple personalities?) are removed? Even if you take it as multiple personalities etc. then when you remove them Ik Onkar is left. If you are saying this is merely about human on personal level and no meaning with Creator at all.. then its still saying that once we remove all these guises we are Ik Onkar. So... we each individual our true identity is Ik Onkar... [COLOR=#000000]Also, 'maan' or mind is not used once in this shabad. If it were speaking only about the mind, wouldn't the word mind be used at least once??? The Actor, Juggler whatever meaning you want to attach to that word, it is speaking about Creator, and not the individual. I just can't see how it can... I have also consulted a Gyani I know for his input, and he does not see this being on a purely human and physical level at all. He interprets it as speaking of Waheguru playing all of the characters (all forms - and not just human). He is SMC trained if that makes a difference... I am also taking the SMC two year study via correspondence. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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