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<blockquote data-quote="simpy" data-source="post: 53118" data-attributes="member: 9395"><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Veer Ji,</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>please, i am not attacking you.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>i am simply trying to analyze your statements.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">let us take one point <strong>at a time-</strong></span></strong></span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: blue"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"></span></strong><span style="color: blue"><strong>now you say-</strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue">and you said in a former post-</span></strong></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>in your original post-</strong></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">THIS IS NOT A MODERN CONCEPT. WE ARE STILL OBEYING DHAN DHAN SIRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI'S ORDERS. And this eternal.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>and FYI your Guru formed a new sect named NAMDHARI with his own school of thought about Guruship by denying Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's orders. He might had his own reasons, i have no interest in disscussing that..</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">now you say-</span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>in your original post-</strong></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue">so what you did for the years 1708-1812/1857 ??? </span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">my dear brother you have been contradicting your own thoughts over and over again, we can go on and on, but it is useless.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">i did ask you to answer a few questions before too, you ignored all that-</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">here is another one-</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Gurbani says-</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharHeavy'"><span style="color: #0000ff">bwxI gurU gurU hY bwxI ivic bwxI AMimRqu swry ]</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black">b</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">aa</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">n</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ee</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> g</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">u</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">r</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">oo</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> g</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">u</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">r</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">oo</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> h</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ai</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> b</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">aa</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">n</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ee</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> v</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">i</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ch b</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">aa</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">n</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ee</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> anmr</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">i</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">th s</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">aa</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">r</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ae</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The Word, the Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within the Bani, the Ambrosial Nectar is contained.</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharHeavy'">guru bwxI khY syvku jnu mwnY prqiK gurU insqwry ]5]</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">g</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">u</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">r b</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">aa</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">n</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ee</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> keh</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ai</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> s</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ae</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">vuk jun m</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">aa</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">n</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ai</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> puruthakh g</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">u</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">r</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">oo</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> n</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">i</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">suth</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">aa</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">r</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ae</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">If His humble servant believes, and acts according to the Words of the Guru's Bani, then the Guru, in person, emancipates him. </span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">i know you are not going to believe this either, but anyways i had to bring it up.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Here Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Raam Das Sachey Paatshah Ji says- Bani Guru Hai, Guru Bani Hai and whosoever humbly believes Bani, Bani(GURU) saves that person.</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>There is <span style="color: red">no difference in Guru or Guru's Bani. Guru is unlimited. Guru is already mearged with SuperSelf- that's why His words contain AMBROSIAL NECTAAR-AMRIT. AND AMRIT KADI BEHA NAHI HUNDAA....</span></strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>where are you lost my veer, do you have any clue what you talking about????</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">it seems to me that you are a confused person, only trying to use your time on some wasteful task.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">a person engrossed in Naam(as you claim yourself to be) does productive work, he/she does not waste any single minute .......</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Dhan Dhan Siri Guru arjan Dev Ji De Bachan-</span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">pRwnpiq dieAwl purK pRB sKy ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">grB join kil kwl jwl duK ibnwsnu hir rKy ]1] rhwau ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">nwm DwrI srin qyrI ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">pRB dieAwl tyk myrI ]1]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">AnwQ dIn AwsvMq ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">nwmu suAwmI mnih mMq ]2]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">quJ ibnw pRB ikCU n jwnU ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">srb jug mih qum pCwnU ]3]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">hir min bsy inis bwsro ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">goibMd nwnk Awsro ]</span></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">4]</span></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">hir kw nwmu irdY inq iDAweI ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">sMgI swQI sgl qrWeI ]1]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">guru myrY sMig sdw hY nwly ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ismir ismir iqsu sdw sm@wly ]1] rhwau ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">qyrw kIAw mITw lwgY ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">hir nwmu pdwrQu nwnku mWgY ]2]</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">AMimRq bwxI hir hir qyrI ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">suix suix hovY prm giq myrI ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">jlin buJI sIqlu hoie mnUAw siqgur kw drsnu pwey jIau ]1]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">sUKu BieAw duKu dUir prwnw ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">sMq rsn hir nwmu vKwnw ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">jl Ql nIir Bry sr suBr ibrQw koie n jwey jIau ]2]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">dieAw DwrI iqin isrjnhwry ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">jIA jMq sgly pRiqpwry ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">imhrvwn ikrpwl dieAwlw sgly iqRpiq AGwey jIau ]3]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">vxu iqRxu iqRBvxu kIqonu hirAw ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">krxhwir iKn BIqir kirAw ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">gurmuiK nwnk iqsY ArwDy mn kI Aws pujwey jIau ]4]</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><strong>Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Amar Das Ji De Bachan</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">gur sBw eyv n pweIAY nw nyVY nw dUir ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">nwnk siqguru qW imlY jw mnu rhY hdUir ]2]</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">jy vylw vKqu vIcwrIAY qw ikqu vylw Bgiq hoie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Anidnu nwmy riqAw scy scI soie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ieku iqlu ipAwrw ivsrY Bgiq iknyhI hoie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">mnu qnu sIqlu swc isau swsu n ibrQw koie ]1]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">myry mn hir kw nwmu iDAwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">swcI Bgiq qw QIAY jw hir vsY min Awie ]1] rhwau ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">shjy KyqI rwhIAY scu nwmu bIju pwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">KyqI jMmI AglI mnUAw rjw shij suBwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">gur kw sbdu AMimRqu hY ijqu pIqY iqK jwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">iehu mnu swcw sic rqw scy rihAw smwie ]2]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">AwKxu vyKxu bolxw sbdy rihAw smwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">bwxI vjI chu jugI sco scu suxwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">haumY myrw rih gieAw scY lieAw imlwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">iqn kau mhlu hdUir hY jo sic rhy ilv lwie ]3]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ndrI nwmu iDAweIAY ivxu krmw pwieAw n jwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">pUrY Bwig sqsMgiq lhY sqguru BytY ijsu Awie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Anidnu nwmy riqAw duKu ibiKAw ivchu jwie ]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 12px">nwnk sbid imlwvVw nwmy nwim smwie ]4]</span></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">forgive me please</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simpy, post: 53118, member: 9395"] [COLOR=blue][B]Veer Ji,[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][B]please, i am not attacking you.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][B]i am simply trying to analyze your statements.[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=blue][B][COLOR=#0000ff]let us take one point [B]at a time-[/B][/COLOR][/B] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=blue][B]now you say-[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=blue]and you said in a former post-[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=blue][B]in your original post-[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=red]THIS IS NOT A MODERN CONCEPT. WE ARE STILL OBEYING DHAN DHAN SIRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI'S ORDERS. And this eternal.[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=blue][B]and FYI your Guru formed a new sect named NAMDHARI with his own school of thought about Guruship by denying Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's orders. He might had his own reasons, i have no interest in disscussing that..[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]now you say-[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=blue][B]in your original post-[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=blue]so what you did for the years 1708-1812/1857 ??? [/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]my dear brother you have been contradicting your own thoughts over and over again, we can go on and on, but it is useless.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]i did ask you to answer a few questions before too, you ignored all that-[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]here is another one-[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Gurbani says-[/COLOR][/B] [B][FONT=GurbaniAkharHeavy][COLOR=#0000ff]bwxI gurU gurU hY bwxI ivic bwxI AMimRqu swry ][/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]b[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]aa[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]n[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ee[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] g[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]u[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]r[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]oo[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] g[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]u[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]r[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]oo[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] h[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ai[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] b[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]aa[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]n[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ee[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] v[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]i[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]ch b[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]aa[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]n[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ee[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] anmr[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]i[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]th s[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]aa[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]r[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ae[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The Word, the Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within the Bani, the Ambrosial Nectar is contained.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=GurbaniAkharHeavy]guru bwxI khY syvku jnu mwnY prqiK gurU insqwry ]5][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]g[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]u[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]r b[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]aa[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]n[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ee[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] keh[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ai[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] s[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ae[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]vuk jun m[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]aa[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]n[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ai[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] puruthakh g[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]u[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]r[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]oo[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] n[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]i[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]suth[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]aa[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]r[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]ae[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If His humble servant believes, and acts according to the Words of the Guru's Bani, then the Guru, in person, emancipates him. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]i know you are not going to believe this either, but anyways i had to bring it up.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Here Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Raam Das Sachey Paatshah Ji says- Bani Guru Hai, Guru Bani Hai and whosoever humbly believes Bani, Bani(GURU) saves that person.[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=blue][B]There is [COLOR=red]no difference in Guru or Guru's Bani. Guru is unlimited. Guru is already mearged with SuperSelf- that's why His words contain AMBROSIAL NECTAAR-AMRIT. AND AMRIT KADI BEHA NAHI HUNDAA....[/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][B]where are you lost my veer, do you have any clue what you talking about????[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]it seems to me that you are a confused person, only trying to use your time on some wasteful task.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]a person engrossed in Naam(as you claim yourself to be) does productive work, he/she does not waste any single minute .......[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Dhan Dhan Siri Guru arjan Dev Ji De Bachan-[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]pRwnpiq dieAwl purK pRB sKy ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]grB join kil kwl jwl duK ibnwsnu hir rKy ]1] rhwau ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]nwm DwrI srin qyrI ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]pRB dieAwl tyk myrI ]1][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]AnwQ dIn AwsvMq ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]nwmu suAwmI mnih mMq ]2][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]quJ ibnw pRB ikCU n jwnU ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]srb jug mih qum pCwnU ]3][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]hir min bsy inis bwsro ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]goibMd nwnk Awsro ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]4][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]hir kw nwmu irdY inq iDAweI ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]sMgI swQI sgl qrWeI ]1][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]guru myrY sMig sdw hY nwly ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]ismir ismir iqsu sdw sm@wly ]1] rhwau ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]qyrw kIAw mITw lwgY ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]hir nwmu pdwrQu nwnku mWgY ]2][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]AMimRq bwxI hir hir qyrI ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]suix suix hovY prm giq myrI ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]jlin buJI sIqlu hoie mnUAw siqgur kw drsnu pwey jIau ]1][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]sUKu BieAw duKu dUir prwnw ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]sMq rsn hir nwmu vKwnw ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]jl Ql nIir Bry sr suBr ibrQw koie n jwey jIau ]2][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]dieAw DwrI iqin isrjnhwry ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]jIA jMq sgly pRiqpwry ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]imhrvwn ikrpwl dieAwlw sgly iqRpiq AGwey jIau ]3][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]vxu iqRxu iqRBvxu kIqonu hirAw ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]krxhwir iKn BIqir kirAw ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]gurmuiK nwnk iqsY ArwDy mn kI Aws pujwey jIau ]4][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=blue][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][B]Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Amar Das Ji De Bachan[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]gur sBw eyv n pweIAY nw nyVY nw dUir ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]nwnk siqguru qW imlY jw mnu rhY hdUir ]2][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/SIZE] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]jy vylw vKqu vIcwrIAY qw ikqu vylw Bgiq hoie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]Anidnu nwmy riqAw scy scI soie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]ieku iqlu ipAwrw ivsrY Bgiq iknyhI hoie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]mnu qnu sIqlu swc isau swsu n ibrQw koie ]1][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]myry mn hir kw nwmu iDAwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]swcI Bgiq qw QIAY jw hir vsY min Awie ]1] rhwau ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]shjy KyqI rwhIAY scu nwmu bIju pwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]KyqI jMmI AglI mnUAw rjw shij suBwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]gur kw sbdu AMimRqu hY ijqu pIqY iqK jwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]iehu mnu swcw sic rqw scy rihAw smwie ]2][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]AwKxu vyKxu bolxw sbdy rihAw smwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]bwxI vjI chu jugI sco scu suxwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]haumY myrw rih gieAw scY lieAw imlwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]iqn kau mhlu hdUir hY jo sic rhy ilv lwie ]3][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]ndrI nwmu iDAweIAY ivxu krmw pwieAw n jwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]pUrY Bwig sqsMgiq lhY sqguru BytY ijsu Awie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]Anidnu nwmy riqAw duKu ibiKAw ivchu jwie ][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipiHeavy][SIZE=3]nwnk sbid imlwvVw nwmy nwim smwie ]4][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]forgive me please[/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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