☀️ JOIN SPN MOBILE
Forums
New posts
Guru Granth Sahib
Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New resources
Latest activity
Videos
New media
New comments
Library
Latest reviews
Donate
Log in
Register
What's new
New posts
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Welcome to all New Sikh Philosophy Network Forums!
Explore Sikh Sikhi Sikhism...
Sign up
Log in
Discussions
Sikh History & Heritage
Did An Italian Surgeon Attend Guru Gobind Singh In 1708? (from Portuguese Sources)
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 134363" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>I think I have found it, the Portuguese connection. The sources you mention may have been based on records of the Portuguese East India Company, and the history of Portuguese presence in India during the Guru's times is greater than I suspected.</p><p></p><p>First for a time-line to give context for the Portuguese presence.</p><p></p><p>Medieval India (600-1526 AD)</p><p><a href="http://www.new-diaspora.com/INDIA/History/Indian%20history%20timeline%20%28600-1818%29.htm" target="_blank">http://www.new-diaspora.com/INDIA/History/Indian history timeline (600-1818).htm</a></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: Red"> * 1469: Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism is born</span></strong></p><p> * 1485: Saluva Narasimha Deva Raya drives out Praudha Raya ending the Sangama Dynasty</p><p> * 1486: Sher Shah Suri (original name Farid Khan) born in Sasaram</p><p> * 1490, Ahmadnagar declares independence, followed by Bijapur and Berar in the same year thus breaking up the Bahmani Sultanate.</p><p><strong> <span style="color: Red">* 1497–1499: Vasco da Gama's first voyage from Europe to India and back</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Red"> * 1503: Kingdom of Kochi is taken over by the Portuguese creating the first European settlement in India..</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Red"> * 1508: The Christian-Islamic power struggle, in Europe and the Middle East,spills over into the Indian Ocean as Battle of Chaul during the Portuguese-Mamluk War</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Red"> * 1509: Battle of Diu marks the beginning of the dominance of the Europeans in the Asian naval theater.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Red"> * 1522: Portuguese land on the Coromandal coast</span></strong></p><p></p><p>And there is a Portuguese connection to Guru Gobind Singh in addition to Dr. Marucci. A note in an article: Rewriting Sikh History Delhi University Style by Gurtej Singh</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: Red">4. It is also known that the Portuguese East India Company headquartered at Agra struck a special coin to commemorate the Guru’s [ref. Guru Gobind Singh] visit to Agra.</span></strong></p><p></p><p>At this link <a href="http://www.sikhspectrum.com/022008/du.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sikhspectrum.com/022008/du.htm</a></p><p></p><p>The Portuguese documentation must be very valuable.</p><p></p><p>And a fascinating side-note: It appears that through the period of Aurangzeb the British East India Company and the Portuguese East India company were fighting a shadow war of sorts, the British siding with Aurangzeb, and the Portuguese did not. As far back as 1604, with Akbar's persecution of Christians in Agra, the Portuguese had a long-standing animosity toward the Mughals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 134363, member: 35"] I think I have found it, the Portuguese connection. The sources you mention may have been based on records of the Portuguese East India Company, and the history of Portuguese presence in India during the Guru's times is greater than I suspected. First for a time-line to give context for the Portuguese presence. Medieval India (600-1526 AD) [URL]http://www.new-diaspora.com/INDIA/History/Indian%20history%20timeline%20%28600-1818%29.htm[/URL] [B][COLOR=Red] * 1469: Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism is born[/COLOR][/B] * 1485: Saluva Narasimha Deva Raya drives out Praudha Raya ending the Sangama Dynasty * 1486: Sher Shah Suri (original name Farid Khan) born in Sasaram * 1490, Ahmadnagar declares independence, followed by Bijapur and Berar in the same year thus breaking up the Bahmani Sultanate. [B] [COLOR=Red]* 1497–1499: Vasco da Gama's first voyage from Europe to India and back * 1503: Kingdom of Kochi is taken over by the Portuguese creating the first European settlement in India.. * 1508: The Christian-Islamic power struggle, in Europe and the Middle East,spills over into the Indian Ocean as Battle of Chaul during the Portuguese-Mamluk War * 1509: Battle of Diu marks the beginning of the dominance of the Europeans in the Asian naval theater. * 1522: Portuguese land on the Coromandal coast[/COLOR][/B] And there is a Portuguese connection to Guru Gobind Singh in addition to Dr. Marucci. A note in an article: Rewriting Sikh History Delhi University Style by Gurtej Singh [B][COLOR=Red]4. It is also known that the Portuguese East India Company headquartered at Agra struck a special coin to commemorate the Guru’s [ref. Guru Gobind Singh] visit to Agra.[/COLOR][/B] At this link [URL]http://www.sikhspectrum.com/022008/du.htm[/URL] The Portuguese documentation must be very valuable. And a fascinating side-note: It appears that through the period of Aurangzeb the British East India Company and the Portuguese East India company were fighting a shadow war of sorts, the British siding with Aurangzeb, and the Portuguese did not. As far back as 1604, with Akbar's persecution of Christians in Agra, the Portuguese had a long-standing animosity toward the Mughals. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Discussions
Sikh History & Heritage
Did An Italian Surgeon Attend Guru Gobind Singh In 1708? (from Portuguese Sources)
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top