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<blockquote data-quote="Ambarsaria" data-source="post: 143788" data-attributes="member: 14194"><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Soul is the inner self that is like a sounding board of impartiality within. It sees you without clothes, it sees you without bias or ill will or animosity. In our action we have a choice to go with what our soul tells us or decide otherwise. In practical living, the actions you take in worldly matters do not always bring about the best outcome if you always follow your soul (<span style="color: Red">me think!</span>).</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />unctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />ontGrowAutofit/> <w:UseFELayout/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><p style="text-align: left"> </p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> </p><p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />unctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />ontGrowAutofit/> <w:UseFELayout/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> <p style="text-align: center"><u><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Soul (<span style="color: Red"><strong>my observations in Red</strong></span>)</span></span></u></p> <p style="text-align: center"> </p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Is soul something you are born with fully developed?</span><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">You are born with a body and a baby soul in it</span></span></li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Is soul something that slowly develops through life?</span><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Your soul grows with your body</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">As it sees more of you without any cloak you see it also as the truthful one which understands you whether you like it or not</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">You can camouflage your way through the world, you cannot fool your soul</span></span></li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Does your soul continues to be or dissipates in other growing souls at death?</span><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Your soul interacts with others through any of the five senses and a sixth sense (soul’s independent processing power)</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Others interact with you and your soul through their senses and souls</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Your interactions with other souls diminish but never die totally</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Your soul is like a wave that diminishes over time to almost nothingness in the Universe ocean but will forever reverberate in a small measure somewhere</span></span></li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">How are new souls created as there are more people now than 20,000 years ago?</span><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Souls never die and parts of them merge with other souls and become part thereof.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Souls like entropy will always increase and the new are created for ever with components of old, present other souls and seeding of soul in a baby (biological processes) .... <em>little baby soul or soul infrastructure that develops in every baby child</em></span></span><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: Black"><u><em>Not to be taken literally</em></u></span><em>, when a new child is born back home (Punjab for me), it used to be that people will ask a great person of good qualities to come and visit the new baby. The person would be considered to give "Gurhti" (like a kick start on a journey of life), and many times with lot of liberties taken (<span style="color: Black"><u>not to be taken literally or a s belief in magic or superstition</u></span>), people will say "<span style="color: Black">bil kul ohdeh jiha jineh gurhti diti see</span>" (implying the person has grown with many qualities of the person who came fot "gurhti visit when the person was a baby.</em></span></span></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Does non-life have soul?</span><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">No it does not but everything is part of oneness (Sikhism) and on earth soul like equivalents and souls can be expected to be everywhere.</span></span></li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Can you trade your soul?</span><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">No you cannot. Though, you are allowed to fool yourself for sure.</span></span></li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In the end, can you ever fool your soul or not show its suppression?<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red">Another soul always has the capability to see your soul. </span><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"> .... as the saying goes, "<span style="color: Black"><em>Look at me when you speak"</em></span>, as eyes are considered windows on the soul. So when there is a conflict with your soul and your actions it is visible to trained eyes.<br /> </span></li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red">One way is as if what Sufi Rumi says below,</span></li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>The above not directed at anyone's beliefs or to make people realize a new truth that negatively impacts their belief system and hence life.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Any comments or thoughts!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sat Sri Akal.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>PS: </strong> Seeker9 ji encouraged me. Thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ambarsaria, post: 143788, member: 14194"] [FONT=Georgia]Soul is the inner self that is like a sounding board of impartiality within. It sees you without clothes, it sees you without bias or ill will or animosity. In our action we have a choice to go with what our soul tells us or decide otherwise. In practical living, the actions you take in worldly matters do not always bring about the best outcome if you always follow your soul ([COLOR=Red]me think![/COLOR]).[/FONT] <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> <w:UseFELayout/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=Georgia] [/FONT][LEFT][FONT=Georgia] [/FONT] [/LEFT] <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> <w:UseFELayout/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> [CENTER][U][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]Soul ([COLOR=Red][B]my observations in Red[/B][/COLOR])[/SIZE][/FONT][/U] [/CENTER] [LIST] [*][FONT=Georgia]Is soul something you are born with fully developed?[/FONT] [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]You are born with a body and a baby soul in it[/FONT][/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][FONT=Georgia]Is soul something that slowly develops through life?[/FONT] [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]Your soul grows with your body[/FONT][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]As it sees more of you without any cloak you see it also as the truthful one which understands you whether you like it or not[/FONT][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]You can camouflage your way through the world, you cannot fool your soul[/FONT][/COLOR] [/LIST] [/LIST] [INDENT][/INDENT] [LIST] [*][FONT=Georgia]Does your soul continues to be or dissipates in other growing souls at death?[/FONT] [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]Your soul interacts with others through any of the five senses and a sixth sense (soul’s independent processing power)[/FONT][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]Others interact with you and your soul through their senses and souls[/FONT][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]Your interactions with other souls diminish but never die totally[/FONT][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]Your soul is like a wave that diminishes over time to almost nothingness in the Universe ocean but will forever reverberate in a small measure somewhere[/FONT][/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][FONT=Georgia]How are new souls created as there are more people now than 20,000 years ago?[/FONT] [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]Souls never die and parts of them merge with other souls and become part thereof.[/FONT][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]Souls like entropy will always increase and the new are created for ever with components of old, present other souls and seeding of soul in a baby (biological processes) .... [I]little baby soul or soul infrastructure that develops in every baby child[/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=Black][U][I]Not to be taken literally[/I][/U][/COLOR][I], when a new child is born back home (Punjab for me), it used to be that people will ask a great person of good qualities to come and visit the new baby. The person would be considered to give "Gurhti" (like a kick start on a journey of life), and many times with lot of liberties taken ([COLOR=Black][U]not to be taken literally or a s belief in magic or superstition[/U][/COLOR]), people will say "[COLOR=Black]bil kul ohdeh jiha jineh gurhti diti see[/COLOR]" (implying the person has grown with many qualities of the person who came fot "gurhti visit when the person was a baby.[/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [/LIST] [/LIST] [/LIST] [INDENT][/INDENT] [LIST] [*][FONT=Georgia]Does non-life have soul?[/FONT] [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]No it does not but everything is part of oneness (Sikhism) and on earth soul like equivalents and souls can be expected to be everywhere.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][FONT=Georgia]Can you trade your soul?[/FONT] [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red][FONT=Georgia]No you cannot. Though, you are allowed to fool yourself for sure.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/LIST] [/LIST] [INDENT][/INDENT] [LIST] [*]In the end, can you ever fool your soul or not show its suppression? [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red]Another soul always has the capability to see your soul. [/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=Red] .... as the saying goes, "[COLOR=Black][I]Look at me when you speak"[/I][/COLOR], as eyes are considered windows on the soul. So when there is a conflict with your soul and your actions it is visible to trained eyes. [/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=Red]One way is as if what Sufi Rumi says below,[/COLOR] [/LIST] [/LIST] [INDENT][/INDENT]The above not directed at anyone's beliefs or to make people realize a new truth that negatively impacts their belief system and hence life. Any comments or thoughts! Sat Sri Akal. [B]PS: [/B] Seeker9 ji encouraged me. Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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