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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 25627" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji KI fateh.</p><p> </p><p>Almost daily I come across "Sikhs" who tell me they have so much shardha in Gurbani..they beleive every single word of Gurbani..and this tells them that there are BHOOTS and PRETS.( also YUGS and Reincarnations..84 lakh joons and jamraaj and chitragupts..and and ..and..) I ask them..Have you really studied Gurbani ?? or just read gurbani..superficially... </p><p>The Difficulty and problem stems from the fact that we Sikhs always proclaim that GURU NANAK began a NEW RELIGION...a NEW system of THOUGHT...a Brand New Philosophy...etc etc BUT then we put on the Same old "spectacles" of Brahminism/vedas/purans...when we attempt to "look" at GURMATT Philosphy espoused in GURBANI. The "technique" Guru Ji used in Wriiting Gurbani is called PRODAWAAD...USE the "same old words" that already well known..BUT GIVE them NEW MEANINGS in line with the NEW GURMATT PHILOSOPHY. Thus we have mention of YUGS, REINCARNATION, BHOOTS, PRETS, 84 Lakh Joons etc etc..ALL these are used just as EXAMPLES..UDHARANS ONLY....to explain the new GURMATT. we cannot see the new gurmatt if we continue to BORROW the Brahmins" spectacles to see what Guru Ji wrote. WHY DID GURU JI THROW WATER at HARDWAAR ?? Does this Mean that We MUST also "THROW WATER" ?? Guru Ji is clearly THROWING WATER...But to TEACH his NEW GURMATT PHILOSOPHY....that THROWING WATER is a useless act...and even IF GURU JI also threw water..we are NOT to DO IT anymore after we read and understand GURBANI. </p><p> </p><p>Lets see what are the BHOOTS and PRETS mentioned in Gurbani..</p><p>1.Page 289..SGGS "Saar BHOOT seh Har ka nao sehaj subhai nanak gun gao..... Here "BHOOT" is used for MATERIAL THINGS</p><p>2.Page 1202 SGGS "Kart buraee manas te chhapaee, Sathi BHOOT bhavaan"... Here BHOOT is TIME</p><p>3. Page 714 SGGS "Bhasma bhoot hoa khin bheetr Keea aapna paiya.." Here BHOOT is BODY</p><p>4. Page 839 SGGS " Panchmee panch BHOOT betala, aap agochar purakh nirala" Here BHOOT is Panch tatt Five Tatts</p><p>5. Page 1031 SGGS. " Dundar dhoot Bhoot bhehaleh,khinchotan kareh bheetaleh." Here BHOOT is used for VISHA VIKAARS</p><p>6. Page 513 SGGS " Maiya moh PRET hai, Kaam Krodh hankaara.." Here BHOOT PRET is MAYA..kaam, krodh,,hankaar</p><p>7. Page 890 SGGS. " Pasu pret mugadh te bureetiseh na bujheh jin eh siree..." Here BHOOT is for HUMAN BODY</p><p>8. Page 224 SGGS. "Kar kirpa rakhoh ravaleh..bin bujheh pasu paiyeah betaleh.." GIANHEEN..those without KNOWLEDGE are </p><p> BHOOTS</p><p>9. Page 311 SGGS.." Sach sacha jineh na sevaiah se MANMUKH moorrh BETaleh.." here the MANMUKH is the BHOOT</p><p>10. Page 149.SGGS " Navoh bhoolah jag phireh betalia.." Here the WORLD is BHOOT</p><p>11. Page 556 SGGS ." kali andhar nanaka jinah da autaar..PUTT jnoora dhee janoree Joru jinah da sikdaar..Here the FAMILY is BHOOT</p><p>12. Page 1374 SGGS " Kabir ja ghar saadh na seviah...Har kee seva nahin..se ghar marthakh sarkheh BHOOT baseh tin maheh... </p><p> People WITHOUT any GUNN...are like "Houses with BHOOTS"</p><p>13. Page 802 SGGS.."Pasu pret mugadh ko tareh pahan paar utareh.. nanak dass teri sarnaii sada sada balihareh...Here GURU has the </p><p> ability to Make "BHOOTS" ( those without Gunn, Knowledge etc) into GOOD HUMAN BEINGS</p><p>14. Page323 SGGS.." Pretoh kettan devta tin karneh hareh.. sabhe SIKH swarean Prabh kaaj swareh.." Guru has the ability to make </p><p> Bhoot like Bad Human Beings into GOOD Angel like Devtas</p><p>15. Page 706.SGGS " Har bhagat bhav heenangNanak PRABH bisrteh preteh..." PRET is one who has forgotten Name of GOD</p><p></p><p> Only Prof sahib Singh ji in His Guru Garanth Darpan has stepped out of the BRAHMIN LKEER ( line of CONTROL) and doen justice to Gurbani aarths...all others have doen these arrths by remaining firmly TIED DOWN to Brahminic/Vedic Thoughts and Rituals..and our so callaed DERAWADEE SANTS and SAADHS and even Taksali Gyanis are lakeer de fkeer..makee te makhee maree jaan walleh..who mindlessly keep repeating these "bhoot bhoot" when GURBANI is s ayign the Direct OPPOSITE of what they preach...and keep pushing the unwary sikh towards the deep ocean of Hinduism and its bhoot prets and 33 krorr devtas and such myths... </p><p>Actually there are no Bhoot Pret Joonis...there is not a single tuk of Gurbani that declares that such a BHOOT pret can enter a Human Body and take possesiion of it..all such are MANSAK Sicknesses..sickness of the MIND and should be treated as such by medical professionals...not akhautee saadhs and sants reading gurbani over glasses of water and sprinkling them over such mentally disturbed persons.. </p><p> Har ke naam heen BETAAL..Jeta karan karavan teta Sabh bandhan Janjaal..and also.....Koi Kaheh BHOOTNA koi BETALLA.... if such a Modern SAADH-SANT say from baba Wadbhag Singh Dera had come across GURU NANAK JI...he would have sat down to take out "Guru nanak Ji's BHOOT also...because Guru Ji declares ..People call me Bhootna, betalla..so whose "bhoot" is in GURU NANAK JI ?? Gurbani clearly declares that humans who dont have Naam, gunns, good deeds, knowledge of God are the BHOOTS in HUMAN FORM... </p><p> </p><p>a small story. A man approached Guru Gobind Singh ji and pleaded that he saw BHOOTS/PRETS..and was frightened. Guru Ji asked him.. Have you taken Khandeh batte dee Pahul..Do you Do Nitnem...Do you read Gurbani Paath... and he repleid NO Guru Ji. Guru Ji then replied..to me YOU are the BHOOT/PRET...for without the Naam of Gurbani a Human is BHOOT/PRET. Any human who is not having love of God in him, does bad things, cannot see God in everyone...is a Living BHOOT/PRET..and GURBANI hs the Power to make such a bhoot into a good Human being. NO "DEAD" person can enter into any living human...so dont fall for that saadh/Sant/Tantrik trick to relieve you of your money...and SANITY and PEACE of MIND. </p><p> </p><p>Jarnail Singh Gyani "Arshi"</p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The Following Comment was posted by Respected Prof devinder Singh ji Chahal....</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">:"...Mr Jarnail Singh Arshi Giani Ji has explained wonderfully that in all the phrases quoted by him the word’ Bhoot’ and ‘Pret’ have been used by Gurus as metaphors to convey their philosophy. According to Nanakian Philosophy embodied in the Bani of Guru Nanak the so-called Soul does not go into reincarnation of 8.4 million life-cycles or into the Bhoot or prêt form.. There is no such thing in this universe.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">It is very important for the Sikhs to first understand the ‘Nanakian Methodology’ used by Guru Nanak and other Sikh Gurus to write their Bani. One of the various methods used by the Gurus is that they have used ALLEGORIES, METAPHORS, AND SIMILES extensively to convey their philosophy. As soon as one understands Nanakian Methodology it would be much easier to interpret Gurbani in its real perspective.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">One can read about it on the following site:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Nanakian Methodology</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><a href="http://www.iuscanada.com/journal/articles/nanakianMethodology.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.iuscanada.com/journal/articles/nanakianMethodology.pdf</a></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">For more articles on scientific and logical interpretations of Gurbani go to the following Net:</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><a href="http://www.iuscanada.com/" target="_blank">www.iuscanada.com</a></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><em><strong><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>Prof Devinder Singh Chahal, PhD</strong></span></span></span></span></span></em></strong></em></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Institute for Understanding Sikhism</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">4418 Martin-Plouffe</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Laval</span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">, Quebec, Canada</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">H7W 5L9</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="color: #0080c0"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Phone: 450-681-1254</span></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 25627, member: 189"] Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji KI fateh. Almost daily I come across "Sikhs" who tell me they have so much shardha in Gurbani..they beleive every single word of Gurbani..and this tells them that there are BHOOTS and PRETS.( also YUGS and Reincarnations..84 lakh joons and jamraaj and chitragupts..and and ..and..) I ask them..Have you really studied Gurbani ?? or just read gurbani..superficially... The Difficulty and problem stems from the fact that we Sikhs always proclaim that GURU NANAK began a NEW RELIGION...a NEW system of THOUGHT...a Brand New Philosophy...etc etc BUT then we put on the Same old "spectacles" of Brahminism/vedas/purans...when we attempt to "look" at GURMATT Philosphy espoused in GURBANI. The "technique" Guru Ji used in Wriiting Gurbani is called PRODAWAAD...USE the "same old words" that already well known..BUT GIVE them NEW MEANINGS in line with the NEW GURMATT PHILOSOPHY. Thus we have mention of YUGS, REINCARNATION, BHOOTS, PRETS, 84 Lakh Joons etc etc..ALL these are used just as EXAMPLES..UDHARANS ONLY....to explain the new GURMATT. we cannot see the new gurmatt if we continue to BORROW the Brahmins" spectacles to see what Guru Ji wrote. WHY DID GURU JI THROW WATER at HARDWAAR ?? Does this Mean that We MUST also "THROW WATER" ?? Guru Ji is clearly THROWING WATER...But to TEACH his NEW GURMATT PHILOSOPHY....that THROWING WATER is a useless act...and even IF GURU JI also threw water..we are NOT to DO IT anymore after we read and understand GURBANI. Lets see what are the BHOOTS and PRETS mentioned in Gurbani.. 1.Page 289..SGGS "Saar BHOOT seh Har ka nao sehaj subhai nanak gun gao..... Here "BHOOT" is used for MATERIAL THINGS 2.Page 1202 SGGS "Kart buraee manas te chhapaee, Sathi BHOOT bhavaan"... Here BHOOT is TIME 3. Page 714 SGGS "Bhasma bhoot hoa khin bheetr Keea aapna paiya.." Here BHOOT is BODY 4. Page 839 SGGS " Panchmee panch BHOOT betala, aap agochar purakh nirala" Here BHOOT is Panch tatt Five Tatts 5. Page 1031 SGGS. " Dundar dhoot Bhoot bhehaleh,khinchotan kareh bheetaleh." Here BHOOT is used for VISHA VIKAARS 6. Page 513 SGGS " Maiya moh PRET hai, Kaam Krodh hankaara.." Here BHOOT PRET is MAYA..kaam, krodh,,hankaar 7. Page 890 SGGS. " Pasu pret mugadh te bureetiseh na bujheh jin eh siree..." Here BHOOT is for HUMAN BODY 8. Page 224 SGGS. "Kar kirpa rakhoh ravaleh..bin bujheh pasu paiyeah betaleh.." GIANHEEN..those without KNOWLEDGE are BHOOTS 9. Page 311 SGGS.." Sach sacha jineh na sevaiah se MANMUKH moorrh BETaleh.." here the MANMUKH is the BHOOT 10. Page 149.SGGS " Navoh bhoolah jag phireh betalia.." Here the WORLD is BHOOT 11. Page 556 SGGS ." kali andhar nanaka jinah da autaar..PUTT jnoora dhee janoree Joru jinah da sikdaar..Here the FAMILY is BHOOT 12. Page 1374 SGGS " Kabir ja ghar saadh na seviah...Har kee seva nahin..se ghar marthakh sarkheh BHOOT baseh tin maheh... People WITHOUT any GUNN...are like "Houses with BHOOTS" 13. Page 802 SGGS.."Pasu pret mugadh ko tareh pahan paar utareh.. nanak dass teri sarnaii sada sada balihareh...Here GURU has the ability to Make "BHOOTS" ( those without Gunn, Knowledge etc) into GOOD HUMAN BEINGS 14. Page323 SGGS.." Pretoh kettan devta tin karneh hareh.. sabhe SIKH swarean Prabh kaaj swareh.." Guru has the ability to make Bhoot like Bad Human Beings into GOOD Angel like Devtas 15. Page 706.SGGS " Har bhagat bhav heenangNanak PRABH bisrteh preteh..." PRET is one who has forgotten Name of GOD Only Prof sahib Singh ji in His Guru Garanth Darpan has stepped out of the BRAHMIN LKEER ( line of CONTROL) and doen justice to Gurbani aarths...all others have doen these arrths by remaining firmly TIED DOWN to Brahminic/Vedic Thoughts and Rituals..and our so callaed DERAWADEE SANTS and SAADHS and even Taksali Gyanis are lakeer de fkeer..makee te makhee maree jaan walleh..who mindlessly keep repeating these "bhoot bhoot" when GURBANI is s ayign the Direct OPPOSITE of what they preach...and keep pushing the unwary sikh towards the deep ocean of Hinduism and its bhoot prets and 33 krorr devtas and such myths... Actually there are no Bhoot Pret Joonis...there is not a single tuk of Gurbani that declares that such a BHOOT pret can enter a Human Body and take possesiion of it..all such are MANSAK Sicknesses..sickness of the MIND and should be treated as such by medical professionals...not akhautee saadhs and sants reading gurbani over glasses of water and sprinkling them over such mentally disturbed persons.. Har ke naam heen BETAAL..Jeta karan karavan teta Sabh bandhan Janjaal..and also.....Koi Kaheh BHOOTNA koi BETALLA.... if such a Modern SAADH-SANT say from baba Wadbhag Singh Dera had come across GURU NANAK JI...he would have sat down to take out "Guru nanak Ji's BHOOT also...because Guru Ji declares ..People call me Bhootna, betalla..so whose "bhoot" is in GURU NANAK JI ?? Gurbani clearly declares that humans who dont have Naam, gunns, good deeds, knowledge of God are the BHOOTS in HUMAN FORM... a small story. A man approached Guru Gobind Singh ji and pleaded that he saw BHOOTS/PRETS..and was frightened. Guru Ji asked him.. Have you taken Khandeh batte dee Pahul..Do you Do Nitnem...Do you read Gurbani Paath... and he repleid NO Guru Ji. Guru Ji then replied..to me YOU are the BHOOT/PRET...for without the Naam of Gurbani a Human is BHOOT/PRET. Any human who is not having love of God in him, does bad things, cannot see God in everyone...is a Living BHOOT/PRET..and GURBANI hs the Power to make such a bhoot into a good Human being. NO "DEAD" person can enter into any living human...so dont fall for that saadh/Sant/Tantrik trick to relieve you of your money...and SANITY and PEACE of MIND. Jarnail Singh Gyani "Arshi" The Following Comment was posted by Respected Prof devinder Singh ji Chahal.... [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]:"...Mr Jarnail Singh Arshi Giani Ji has explained wonderfully that in all the phrases quoted by him the word’ Bhoot’ and ‘Pret’ have been used by Gurus as metaphors to convey their philosophy. According to Nanakian Philosophy embodied in the Bani of Guru Nanak the so-called Soul does not go into reincarnation of 8.4 million life-cycles or into the Bhoot or prêt form.. There is no such thing in this universe.[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]It is very important for the Sikhs to first understand the ‘Nanakian Methodology’ used by Guru Nanak and other Sikh Gurus to write their Bani. One of the various methods used by the Gurus is that they have used ALLEGORIES, METAPHORS, AND SIMILES extensively to convey their philosophy. As soon as one understands Nanakian Methodology it would be much easier to interpret Gurbani in its real perspective.[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]One can read about it on the following site:[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]Nanakian Methodology[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][URL="http://www.iuscanada.com/journal/articles/nanakianMethodology.pdf"]http://www.iuscanada.com/journal/articles/nanakianMethodology.pdf[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]For more articles on scientific and logical interpretations of Gurbani go to the following Net:[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][URL="http://www.iuscanada.com/"]www.iuscanada.com[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [I][B][I][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0080c0][COLOR=#0080c0][FONT=Arial][B]Prof Devinder Singh Chahal, PhD[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/I][/B][/I][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0080c0][COLOR=#0080c0][FONT=Arial]Institute for Understanding Sikhism[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0080c0][COLOR=#0080c0][FONT=Arial]4418 Martin-Plouffe[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0080c0][COLOR=#0080c0][FONT=Arial]Laval[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0080c0][COLOR=#0080c0][FONT=Arial], Quebec, Canada[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0080c0][COLOR=#0080c0][FONT=Arial]H7W 5L9[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0080c0][COLOR=#0080c0][FONT=Arial]Phone: 450-681-1254[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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