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<blockquote data-quote="chazSingh" data-source="post: 162561" data-attributes="member: 17409"><p>Last night there was a Horizon T.V documentary that showed our Conscious Mind can only concentrate on 2-3 tasks at a time. All the rest (and there are so many) are dictated by our subconscious mind...all of these subconscious actions we are unaware of.</p><p> </p><p>The question the program asked was...are we in CONTROL of our subconscious mind...or does our Subconscious mind CONTROL US? are we slaves to what our subconscious contains..</p><p> </p><p>Gurbani already tells us all about this...hundreds of years before science has finally clocked on:</p><p> </p><p>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>h<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span> sar<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span>r m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> p<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>thal<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> v<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>ch ho<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span> dh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>satt<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> p<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> ||</p><p><em>This body is the puppet of Maya. The evil of egotism is within it.</em></p><p></p><p>m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> j<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span>vadd dh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>kh neh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> sabh bhav thhak<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span> sa(n)s<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>r ||</p><p><em>There is no pain as great as the pain of Maya; it drives people to wander all around the world, until they become exhausted.</em></p><p></p><p>man m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span>r<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span> ho<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span> m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span>l bhar n<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>l ||</p><p><em>O my mind, you are filled with the filth of egotism.</em></p><p></p><p>b<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>har mal dhh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>v<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span> man k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> j<span style="color: #080088"><strong>oo</strong></span>t(h) n j<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span> ||</p><p><em>Outwardly, he washes off the filth, but the impurity of his mind does not go away.</em></p><p></p><p>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>h<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span> man m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span>l<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>k n dhh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span> ||</p><p><em>This mind is filthy and polluted; it does not meditate on the One.</em></p><p> </p><p>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>s dh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span>h<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> a(n)dhar pa(n)ch ch<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>r vaseh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span> k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>m kr<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>dhh l<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>bh m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>h<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span> aha(n)k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>r<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> ||</p><p><strong><em>Within this body dwell the five thieves: sexual desire, anger, greed, emotional attachment and egotism.</em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong>pa(n)ch dh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>oo</strong></span>th m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>oo</strong></span>dd par t(h)<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>dt<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span> k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span>s geh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span> f<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span>r<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>vath h<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span> ||</p><p><strong><em>The five thieves stand over your head and seize you. Grabbing you by your hair, they will drive you on.</em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>The five thieves attack us through our mind, our thoughts...these thoughts come from our subconscious mind...and we then act upon them.</p><p> </p><p>It brings out anger in us, sexual desire, greed for money, food, attachment to our worldy posessions and family, fear of death, etc etc</p><p>And our conscious mind just follows like a slave to these 5 thieves.</p><p> </p><p>Guru Ji gave us the tools to fight our minds, called Simran/Meditation and through Seva</p><p> </p><p>I would like to start this thread for all the Forum Members who already are or are thinking about taking this practice seriously as described in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.</p><p> </p><p>Please share with myself and others your experiences, difficulties encountered of any kind etc etc.</p><p> </p><p>god Bless all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chazSingh, post: 162561, member: 17409"] Last night there was a Horizon T.V documentary that showed our Conscious Mind can only concentrate on 2-3 tasks at a time. All the rest (and there are so many) are dictated by our subconscious mind...all of these subconscious actions we are unaware of. The question the program asked was...are we in CONTROL of our subconscious mind...or does our Subconscious mind CONTROL US? are we slaves to what our subconscious contains.. Gurbani already tells us all about this...hundreds of years before science has finally clocked on: e[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR]h[COLOR=#080088][B]u[/B][/COLOR] sar[COLOR=#080088][B]ee[/B][/COLOR]r m[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]e[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR] k[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR] p[COLOR=#080088][B]u[/B][/COLOR]thal[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR] v[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR]ch ho[COLOR=#080088][B]u[/B][/COLOR]m[COLOR=#080088][B]ai[/B][/COLOR] dh[COLOR=#080088][B]u[/B][/COLOR]satt[COLOR=#080088][B]ee[/B][/COLOR] p[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#080088][B]ee[/B][/COLOR] || [I]This body is the puppet of Maya. The evil of egotism is within it.[/I] m[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]e[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR] j[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR]vadd dh[COLOR=#080088][B]u[/B][/COLOR]kh neh[COLOR=#080088][B]ee[/B][/COLOR] sabh bhav thhak[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR] sa(n)s[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]r || [I]There is no pain as great as the pain of Maya; it drives people to wander all around the world, until they become exhausted.[/I] man m[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR]r[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR] ho[COLOR=#080088][B]u[/B][/COLOR]m[COLOR=#080088][B]ai[/B][/COLOR] m[COLOR=#080088][B]ai[/B][/COLOR]l bhar n[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]l || [I]O my mind, you are filled with the filth of egotism.[/I] b[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]har mal dhh[COLOR=#080088][B]o[/B][/COLOR]v[COLOR=#080088][B]ai[/B][/COLOR] man k[COLOR=#080088][B]ee[/B][/COLOR] j[COLOR=#080088][B]oo[/B][/COLOR]t(h) n j[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]e[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR] || [I]Outwardly, he washes off the filth, but the impurity of his mind does not go away.[/I] e[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR]h[COLOR=#080088][B]u[/B][/COLOR] man m[COLOR=#080088][B]ai[/B][/COLOR]l[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR] e[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR]k n dhh[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]e[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR] || [I]This mind is filthy and polluted; it does not meditate on the One.[/I] e[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR]s dh[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR]h[COLOR=#080088][B]ee[/B][/COLOR] a(n)dhar pa(n)ch ch[COLOR=#080088][B]o[/B][/COLOR]r vaseh[COLOR=#080088][B]i[/B][/COLOR] k[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]m kr[COLOR=#080088][B]o[/B][/COLOR]dhh l[COLOR=#080088][B]o[/B][/COLOR]bh m[COLOR=#080088][B]o[/B][/COLOR]h[COLOR=#080088][B]u[/B][/COLOR] aha(n)k[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]r[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR] || [B][I]Within this body dwell the five thieves: sexual desire, anger, greed, emotional attachment and egotism.[/I] [/B]pa(n)ch dh[COLOR=#080088][B]oo[/B][/COLOR]th m[COLOR=#080088][B]oo[/B][/COLOR]dd par t(h)[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]dt[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR] k[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR]s geh[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR] f[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR]r[COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR]vath h[COLOR=#080088][B]ae[/B][/COLOR] || [B][I]The five thieves stand over your head and seize you. Grabbing you by your hair, they will drive you on.[/I] [/B] The five thieves attack us through our mind, our thoughts...these thoughts come from our subconscious mind...and we then act upon them. It brings out anger in us, sexual desire, greed for money, food, attachment to our worldy posessions and family, fear of death, etc etc And our conscious mind just follows like a slave to these 5 thieves. Guru Ji gave us the tools to fight our minds, called Simran/Meditation and through Seva I would like to start this thread for all the Forum Members who already are or are thinking about taking this practice seriously as described in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Please share with myself and others your experiences, difficulties encountered of any kind etc etc. god Bless all. [/QUOTE]
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