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Baba Manochahal's Warning Of Ragi Darshan Singh At Panthic.org
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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 118022" data-attributes="member: 35"><p><strong>Re: TV Interview: Giani Gurbachan Singh, Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat Sahib on Darshan Si</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Previously I offered to analyze the article at the link <a href="http://www.panthic.org/articles/5193" target="_blank">Panthic.org</a>. I was willing to show that the article is neither news reporting nor responsible editorial writing. Rather it is for the most part propaganda. My analysis was described as defamation. Two days ago, another forum member requested a more detailed analysis of the article. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>I have complied. </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">My argument earlier was, and remains, that the article in panthic.org was manipulative, melodramatic, and nothing more than propaganda. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">First let's explore what “evidence” is normally understood to be, and what "propaganda" is normally understood to mean. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">evidence</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"> |</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ˈ</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ev</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ə</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">d</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ə</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ns|</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">noun</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid <em>: the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination.</em></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><em><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><em><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></em></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">propaganda</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"> |</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ˌ</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">pr</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ä</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">p</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">əˈ</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">gand</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ə</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">|</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">noun</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><strong>1 </strong></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">chiefly derogatory </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view <em>: he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda.</em></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">• </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">the dissemination of such information as a political strategy <em>: the party's leaders believed that a long period of education and propaganda would be necessary .</em></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><em><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></em></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Now, let's take a second look at the following article:</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"> RAGI DARSHAN SINGH - A TRAITOR AMIDST THE SIKHS from PANTHIC.ORG</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Does it present evidence or is it mainly propaganda? Does it rise to the level of informed editorial opinion? Or is it an emotional exercise, which rmore like throwing a pot of spaghetti at the wall? Something against Professor Darshan Singh just might stick. Something might stick, and convince some readers sitting under a cloud of unknowing that the Professor is a traitor. Unlike spaghetti, once damage is done, no one will be required to clean the mess up.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">The multi-part missive starts with the main article, parts of which are reproduced below. Black fonts are panthic.org and blue fonts are me. I will tackle the main article first. Then I will address several other articles tacked on at the end and offered as evidence in support of the main article.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Published on December 25, 2009</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"seems controversy is not anything new for Darshan Singh, the heretic Ragi, who was recently declared a 'Guru-Nindak' and a 'Tankhaiya' by Sri Akal Takht Sahib, for disobeying the authority of the Supreme Seat of Sikhism."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Blue">The above is one sentence in which fact is mixed with fiction. Here is the part that is fiction. It is not an indisputable fact that Professor Darshan Singh disobeyed the authority of the Supreme Seat of Sikhism.To the contrary, the Takht may have misused its authority by not taking steps consistent with the Sikh Rehat Maryada. In other words, there is a question of fact as to whether the Akal Takht acted according to Gurmat principles. Akal Takht may have waived its authority by ignoring the Sikh Rehat Maryada.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Evidence has surfaced that more than two decades ago, two major freedom fighting organizations, Bhindranwala Tigers Force, and Babbar Khalsa International were suspicious of the heretic Ragi Darshan Singh, and acknowledged that he was unfit to serve as the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib during those turbulent times."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Nothing in this paragraph is a fact. First, no evidence is presented that Bhindranwale Tigers and Babbar Khalsa are “two major freedom fighting organizations." They believe they are major freedom fighting organizations, and bill themselves as such. That is an opinion not a fact. Moreover, all the so- called “evidence” that “surfaced more than two decades ago” is evidence of their suspicions. Suspicions are opinions and not evidence.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Suspicions are not indisputable. Merely suspecting Professor Darshan was a heretic does not make him a heretic, no matter how many times the authors repeat their suspicions. Moreover, the authors have not proved their case. They interpret events to mean that the Professor was unfit to serve as Jathedar. Each new offer of fact turns out to be nothing more than another expression of opinion. I will make this clear later in my responses.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Many have suspected that was Ragi a mole working for the Government agencies, installed to actively derail and torpedo the Khalistan movement in the late 1980s. New evidence and suspicions raised by prominent Sikh leaders of the past seem to validate this notion."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">In this paragraph we read again about suspicions, that Professor Darshan Singh may have been a mole, and may have been installed as Jathedar to derail/torpoedo the Khalistan movement. We have no idea what the authors mean exactly by the "Khalistan movement" and this is important because the "Khalistan movement" took on many forms in the "late 1980's.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"> At this point in the article it seems the Professor is accused of having derailed some aspect of the movement. If we don't know what is meant by the "Khalistan movement" it is impossible to judge what he derailed, or whether he derailed anything at all. Later however we discover that he “derailed” Babbar Khalsa and <strong>its </strong>Khalistan agenda. This is perfect example of how propaganda works: i.e., the authors employ </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"> derogatory </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, to promote or publicize their particular political cause or point of view.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Ragi Darshan Singh was installed by the Tohra led Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) in late 1986. Although Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal was also declared Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib by a section of the Khalistan freedom fighters, he later resigned for the sake of Panthic unity. Little did he know about the treachery that was unfolding under the leadership of his successor."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">The above paragraph explains who "installed" Professor Darshan Singh as Jathedar. It was none other than the controversial Gurcharan Singh Tohra. There are many strikes against Gurcharan Singh Tohra. The authors omit 2 facts. The absence of these 2 facts is not only deafening, it makes my charge of propaganda even more serious. Fact 1: Tohra was elected head of the SGPC numerous times, when he was in favor, and when he was out of favor with Badal. That is a fact. As such it does nothing to help us understand why Professor Darshan Singh is a mole working for government agencies and installed to derail the Khalistan movement. Tohra at the time of Operation Bluestar backed Bhindranwale. To say that Baba Gurbachan Singh Manocchahal was declared Jathedar by a section of Kahlistan freedom fighters simply demonstrates how confused the authors of the article are about how one becomes Jathedar. Basically they are either out of touch with the political facts under the law, or they are deliberately persisting with misleading statements. To further state that Baba Gurbachan Singh Manocchahal resigned for the sake of panthic unity is not only a statement of opinion but it is a self-promoting and self-serving statement. More evidence of propaganda. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Fact 2: Professor Darshan Singh spent time in jail during the post-1984 period, following Bluestar and the Delhi pograms. He was imprisoned as part of a reign of terror that took over the Punjab. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">These facts support the opinion that he was credible choice for Jathedar, and hardly a traitor.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span> </span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">The Chandigarh Tribune narrates this shifting of power at the Sikh Takhts in their July 13th, 2002 editorial interestingly titled 'Misdeeds' of stalwarts during militancy. The Tribune editor notes:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Now this related article in the Chandigarh Tribune is put forth as evidence that the preceding paragraphs should be taken seriously. We are informed that have been “misdeeds.” This is only one example of inflammatory language that is peppered throughout. An editorial titled "misdeeds of stalwarts during militancy" sets the reader up. The reader thinks he/she soon will make some important discoveries. What are these "misdeeds?" The next paragraph tells us what these misdeeds are.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"The SGPC under Mr Tohra had sacked the head granthi of Darbara Sahib and secured and accepted the resignation of Giani Kirpal Singh and secured and accepted the resignation of Giani Kirpal Singh as Jathedar Akal Takht.”</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Now those are indeed statements of fact. Mr Tohra indeed sacked some people and forced the resignation of others. However, are they misdeeds? Or is there a more logical reading of the article? Is it not the case that the authors disagreed with the decisions taken by Mr. Tohra. Therefore to say misdeeds were committed is again misleading.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Moreover, this information has no bearing whatsoever on the accusations made against Professor Darshan Singh. How does that information help us understand that he was a mole or a derailer of the Khalistan movement? And how does it contribute to the charges that Professor is a heretic today? It does not clarify anything. The article cites decisions of Mr. Tohra that transpired 2 decades ago in order to smear the reputation of Professor Darshan Singh today, as "heretic.” This is not evidence and it does not help us understand why Professor Darshan Singh should be thought of as a mole, a traitor, a derailer, or a heretic. In what way does the Professor's relationship with Mr. Tohra 2 decades ago pertain to his stand on Dasam Granth today. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Blue">More editorial opinion follows that is offered as evidence. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"On December 31 (1986), Bhai Darshan Singh Raagi joined as jathedar. On January 23, 1987, the three head priests had also been dismissed and in their place, Giani Puran Singh, Giani Savinder Singh, Giani Jaswant Singh and Giani Kashmir Singh were appointed as high priests. The 'Sarbat khalsa' held on January 26, 1987, approved the resolution of April 29 for Khalistan and also the recent appointments of the high priests. In a recorded message of Gurbachan Singh Manochahal played to the gathering he resigned from the post of Jathedar, Akal Takht, to accommodate Bhai Darshan Singh in the larger interest of the Panth."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">At this point in the article some historical facts are put forth regarding the installation of Professor Darshan Singh and the appointment of 3 individuals as "high priests." It is curious to read "high priests" as Sikhi has no clergy and panthic.org purports to represent the "Sikh panth" as they define "panth." So certainly panthic.org would know that high priests is a frivolous term. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Once again I find the claims made in the article to be clueless. How can anyone take seriously the claim that Gurbachan Singh Manochahal resigned from his post as Jathedar in order to accommodate the Professor and the larger interest of Panth? Manochahal was never the Jathedar to begin with. A better explanation would be this. There was some political wrangling between SGPC and Damdami Takht. Gurbachan Singh Manochahal believed himself to be the heir of the political and spiritual legacy of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. This is nothing more than a presumption on the part of Mr. Manochahal and his supporters. Mr. Manochahal in my humble opinion was a strategist trying to fill a gap left by the death of Jarnail Bhindranwale. He began by casting himself in as the lead actor and obvious choice for the part. We do not know from the article where Damdami Takht stood on his self-nomination.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: blue">Another editorial is placed in evidence to support the arguments of the main article. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">(July 13, 2002 , Tribune India)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Softening the Target : Ragi Darshan Singh and Shushil Muni</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Furthermore, the former Joint Director of India's Intelligence Bureau, Maloy Krishna Dhar, in his memoirs, states:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"He (Rajiv Gandhi) has already played the peace card through Ragi Darshan Singh and a Jain preacher Sushil Muni…"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">(Open Secrets – India's Intelligence Unveiled, Maloy Krishna Dhar, Manas Publications -2005) Perhaps, one of the strongest criticisms, and serious allegations leveled against the Ragi came from Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal. Baba Manochahal was the head of the Bhindranwala Tigers Force (BTF), and a key member of the Panthic Committee, at that time period."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">The persistent pattern of misleading the reader continues. Mr. Manochahal was in the habit of making strong criticisms and allegations against Professor Darshan Singh. Only this time the information is dressed up with a very dramatic statement in parentheses: "Open-Secrets - India's Intelligence Unveiled." Basically we are reading that Rajiv Gandhi played a peace card through Darshan Singh and a Jain preacher named Sushil Muni. Though it may be a fact that a peace card was played and that Professor Darshan Singh had a role to play, the authors make it sound as if it someone had to wrestle CIS to the ground to get the peace card by force. That is nothing short of hilarious. And how does a secret become an "Open Secret?" </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Reconsider the scenario. A secret peace card was played. Darshan Singh had something to do with it. Indian intelligence knew all along. Ultimately the secret was revealed.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"> It is this kind of melodramatic and manipulative language that suggests to me that the entire article was written to serve propaganda interests of Babbar Khalsa. And even if one takes their side in this controversy of 1987 onward, all that means is that one shares the same opinion. It hardly proves that anyone was a "traitor." This is just more name-calling, and probably a reflection of their resentment that Mr. Manochalal was ignored.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: blue">Another editorial is offered as evidence</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">.<span style="color: Blue"> I have included excerpts. In the interests of not going on and on, some paragraphs were not included in my analysis here. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">“the 'Sikh Convention' on August 4th, 1987,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">an event that would be the catalyst for derailing the Khalistan Movement”</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">…</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"The convention was called by the Takht Jathedars under the pretext that this assembly would 'define' the goals and objectives of the Sikh cause. Baba Manochahal and others openly questioned the need to define the Panth's goals and objectives when the Sarbat Khalsa had already done so. Baba Manochahal argued that the goal for the establishment of an independent Sikh Homeland, Khalistan had already been declared in 1984 and further ratified by the Sarbat Khalsa in 1986."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">…</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"At the gathering it was declared by the Ragi that the Sikh nation's goal was not an independent and separate homeland of Khalistan. Instead, the Sikhs should strive for a more more autonomy in India as promised by Pandit Nehru during the partition. The Sikhs no longer needed to fight an armed struggle declared the Ragi, self-governance and autonomy could only be gained through dialogue and votes."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Chaos prevailed throughout at the convention, but this did not distract the Ragi from his task. This was perhaps the first direct attempt to derail the Khalistan struggle at the public level, and an insult to the declarations passed by the Sarbat Khalsa in 1986."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">All of the above can be summed up in one short paragraph. Baba Manochahal and his associates were angry. Their Khalistan agenda was “derailed.” Their agenda was not supported. They were irked by the following developments. To press for “dialogue and votes” was in their view wrong because it was not Baba’s agenda. There was "chaos" and the convention was controversial (according to supporters of Baba Manochahal). Professor Darshan Singh was "chided" by Baba's representive Bhai Daya Singh Chohia for his backtracking on the BTF Khalistan agenda. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">So what should we conclude from all of this? Professor Darshan Singh and the Singh Sahibans disagreed with Baba. That is it! Nothing more can be learned from this news insert. Disagreement is not treachery nor is it treason. Certainly it is not heresy. So why is this information destined to play any part in a discussion in which Professor Darshan Singh is painted as heretic and tankhiaya? It is the classic straw man argument. The reader should believe the authors: this guy Darshan Singh is a really bad guy because he disagrees with Baba. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: blue">Yet more editorial writing is offered as evidence against the Professor, including a “fiery” speech reproduced as an audio file in this thread. I have cast in bold the use of inflammatory language to demonstrate that we are reading propaganda.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">…</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Some of main points and questions raised by Baba Manochahal to the Singh Sahibans were as follows:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * Has the Panth actually been <strong>fighting without an real objective/goal</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> for the last five years?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * Since 1984, the struggle for Khalistan was lauched when the Indian Government attacked Sri Dabar Sahib. This is according to the words of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * All Sikh Jujharoo (freedom fighting) organizations <strong>are struggling</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> for the establishment of Khalistan. What objective are you trying to define?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * Does this Sikh Convention want <strong>to put the Sikh Nation at the mercy of those so-called Sikh leaders who assisted the Government in the assault on Sri Darbar Sahib,</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> Sri Akal Takht Sahib, <strong>and the destruction of hundreds of Saroops (of Guru Granth Sahib Ji), </strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">and <strong>the elimination of thousands of Singhs, Bibis, and children?</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * Singh Sahibs, we <strong>smell the stench</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> that you have joined the Center, who is all <strong>too eager to appease the Jujharoo Singhs on the basis of Sri Anandpur Sahib Resolutions</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">. You are now speaking of defining goals, if you still have not understood the goals of the Panth, then what else can the Panth expect from you?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * Singh Sahibs, time will expose the truth. Is it not your intention at this program to <strong>weaken the resolve of the Sikh organizations fighting for Khalistan, and create chaos in the Sikh community?</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * Do you still have faith in the Indian Government? The same <strong>government that is actively destroying and eliminating Sikh institutions, the Sikh identity, and Sikh culture?</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * If you still have faith in such a Government, then <strong>there is no one who is in a dark pit than you,</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> regardless of how high your current position is.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> * All Sikhs respect Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and the positions of the Singh Sahibans, but <strong>no one will be allowed to become a government stooge while holding such a respectable position.</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> It needs to be made clear that <strong>only those Singhs can serve the Panth that are ready and willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of the Panth."</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong></strong><span style="color: Blue">More propaganda.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Regardless of the strong opposition by Baba Manochahal and other Jujharoo Singhs, the Ragi and the convention organizers passed resolution that would attempt to derail the Khalistan struggle by redefining it as simply a movement for further autonomy for Punjabis in the current Indian framework."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"The next day Punjabi papers eagerly flashed the redefined objective by the Jathdars all over the front-pages. It seemed like the first steps of the Government planned coup to hijack the Sikh Freedom struggle from the Jujharoo organizations had been successfully accomplished – thanks to the Ragi, and his SGPC cohorts."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff">It is a fact that saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib were destroyed in Bluestar, and it is a fact, a horrendous fact, that scores of men, women and children became martyrs. Blood ran into the sarovar of Sri Hamindir Sahib. Blood ran in the streets in Delhi. It is also apparent that the authors are shamelessly using the suffering, martyrdom and sacrifices of these individuals to bolster their own political agenda, and they are hiding behind the reputation of these martyrs because they have no reputation of their own worthy of respect. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff">Instead of evidence we are given proclamations. The article is chest-thumping by political operatives who for some years have been marginalized. Instead of offering evidence, we read words like "at the mercy of" "smell the stench" "create chaos" "government stooge." The article also makes some assumptions of fact. For example it argues that <em>To abandon Khalistan is to place the Sikh Nation at the mercy of Sikh leaders who assisted the Government. And that to abandon Khalistan is akin to destroying Sikh institutions.</em> The article does make one interesting plea: that no one should become a government stooge while occupying the respectable position of jathedar. I agree with that in principle. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff">I share that opinion. Curiously, in our current crisis, jathedars have not so much become stooges of the government while holding positions of trust. Rather Badal, by 2003, had so strengthened his grip on SGPC that the position of jathedar had evolved into something that was clearly a post of civil servant.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff">More non-evidence offered so we will believe it.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Front page of Ajit on the Ragi organized 'Sikh convention'</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"In a seperate audio, Baba Gurbachan Singh Mahochahal shared his views on the treachary by the Ragi his predecessors.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Voice of Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">(click to listen)"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"The Ragi backtracked on his promise to uphold the resolutions on Khalistan, and has walked away from his duty. The Kharkoo Singhs put their trust in him, but he failed them. The Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib not be a person controlled by the Government.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">- Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal Bhai Daya Singh was later killed by the Indian forces near the village Jandiala Guru. Many members of Bhai Daya Singh were also killed in the coming months. Baba Gurbachan Singh Monchahal was killed in February 1993."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff">Exactly what was the hand that Professor Darshan Singh played as far as these deaths at the hands of Indian Forces is concerned? We are left with suggestions and there is nothing solid in the way of evidence to demonstrate that the above is true.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #3942ff">Another “news report” without any facts follows.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">News report of Bhai Daya Sinh's Shaheedee</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Babbar Khalsa Deputy-Chief Dissociates from Ragi</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"When it became clear that the Ragi was working in the interest of the central government, activists of the Babbar Khalsa International, who like other Jujharoo organizations had originally supported the Ragi in his early days at the Jathedar, also became suspicious of his activities." </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: blue"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: blue">The following voluntary admission of a home invasion is considered by the authors to be an act justified by religious faith, fervor and devotion. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: blue"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"An incident narrated by Babbar Khalsa International Deputy-Chief Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar stands out. Bhai Sahib was the main liaison between the Jathedars and the BKI leadership. During the late 1980s, Bhai Sulakhan Singh had made a surprise visit to the residence where Ragi Darshan Singh was staying."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">…</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: blue">The description of a home invation – or if you like, breaking and entering. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Blue">Certainly this is a crime in India. Or if BTF is behind it does that make it an OK thing to do? </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"When Bhai Sulakhan Singh entered the Ragi's residence he discovered that the Ragi was in the middle of a meal that included objectionable items, including eggs and omlet. Being a Rahitvaan Singh Bhai Sulakhan Singh immediately scolded the Ragi for being an Akal Takht Jathedar and violating the Sikh code of conduct. The Ragi defended the consumption of meat and stated they were considered Jhatka and thus allowed by the Panth. Bhai Sulakhan Singh further scolded him for making up such excuses, and for betraying the sacred position of the Takht, and stated this would be the last time he and the BKI organization would communicate with him."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">From this article all I can glean is that Professor Darshan Singh had a meeting at his house. That various of his political opponents had suspicions. That Bahi Sulakhan Singh assumed he had the right to conduct a raid, but this in most other contexts this "raid" would be considered</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong> a felony.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">The article reports that Professor was eating an omelet and possibly some other items, described as "offensive dietary habits" and "shady morals." To give them the benefit of the doubt, the individuals conducting the raid did not appear to know that the SRM does not forbid eating eggs or meat. The Professor stands accused of consuming alcohol, although it is not clear that alcohol was discovered during the raid. Those conducting the raid do not seem to view breaking and entering a home as evidence of their own shady morals.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">…</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Interestingly, over the years further information has come out about the offensive dietary habits and shady morals of the Ragi, including the consumption of alcohol. Now he is often referred to as a "</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਸ਼ਰਾਬੀ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">-</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਕਬਾਬੀ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ਜਥੇਦਾਰ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">" due to such transgressions."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">… </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"There is no question that the Ragi was unfit to lead the Sikhs during those turbulent times. So why was a man who has no religious or Panthic loyalty installed at the Sikhs' apex Takht? Perhaps it was for a different cause - to undermine the Sikh leadership of that time, and create chaos in the masses. Isn't that what the Ragi is doing now? Undermining the Sikh leadership and creating chaos?"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">…</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"The echoes of the warnings given by the great Shaheeds Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal and Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar are as relevant as they were two decades ago. The question is - are we listening?"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">…</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">The authors pose this question: Are we listening? What are we supposed to listen to? Here is their bottom line. <strong>If you disagreed two decades ago with Baba Gurbachan Singh and Bahi Sulakhan Singh, and you were legally appointed to a high religious office, ate eggs or meat, attempted to explain what the SRM has to say about meat and jatka, had dietary habits that are less rigorous than the strict habits of Babbar Khalsa, abandoned Khalistan as a primary political goal, and</strong></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/#_Hlk123993780%091,800,1164,0,,1%20chief" target="_blank">http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/#_Hlk123993780 1,800,1164,0,,1 chief</a></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><strong> favored dialog and votes, and if you take issue with home-invasions, obviously then you are guilty of creating chaos in the past and undermining the panth today.</strong></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">Sangat ji – Let’s go back to the definition of propaganda. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff"><strong>1 </strong></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">chiefly derogatory </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">• </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #1119ff">the dissemination of such information as a political strategy </span></span></span></em><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>That is all from me for now. I may come back to this later.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></p><p> <!--EndFragment--></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 118022, member: 35"] [b]Re: TV Interview: Giani Gurbachan Singh, Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat Sahib on Darshan Si[/b] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Previously I offered to analyze the article at the link [URL="http://www.panthic.org/articles/5193"]Panthic.org[/URL]. I was willing to show that the article is neither news reporting nor responsible editorial writing. Rather it is for the most part propaganda. My analysis was described as defamation. Two days ago, another forum member requested a more detailed analysis of the article. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][B]I have complied. [/B] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]My argument earlier was, and remains, that the article in panthic.org was manipulative, melodramatic, and nothing more than propaganda. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]First let's explore what “evidence” is normally understood to be, and what "propaganda" is normally understood to mean. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]evidence[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen] |[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]ˈ[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]ev[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]ə[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]d[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]ə[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]ns|[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]noun[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid [I]: the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination.[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][I]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/I] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff][I]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]propaganda[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen] |[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]ˌ[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]pr[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]ä[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]p[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]əˈ[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]gand[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]ə[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]|[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]noun [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen][B]1 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]chiefly derogatory [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view [I]: he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda.[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]• [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]the dissemination of such information as a political strategy [I]: the party's leaders believed that a long period of education and propaganda would be necessary .[/I] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen][I]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Now, let's take a second look at the following article:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff] RAGI DARSHAN SINGH - A TRAITOR AMIDST THE SIKHS from PANTHIC.ORG[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Does it present evidence or is it mainly propaganda? Does it rise to the level of informed editorial opinion? Or is it an emotional exercise, which rmore like throwing a pot of spaghetti at the wall? Something against Professor Darshan Singh just might stick. Something might stick, and convince some readers sitting under a cloud of unknowing that the Professor is a traitor. Unlike spaghetti, once damage is done, no one will be required to clean the mess up.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]The multi-part missive starts with the main article, parts of which are reproduced below. Black fonts are panthic.org and blue fonts are me. I will tackle the main article first. Then I will address several other articles tacked on at the end and offered as evidence in support of the main article.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Published on December 25, 2009 [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"seems controversy is not anything new for Darshan Singh, the heretic Ragi, who was recently declared a 'Guru-Nindak' and a 'Tankhaiya' by Sri Akal Takht Sahib, for disobeying the authority of the Supreme Seat of Sikhism." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=Blue]The above is one sentence in which fact is mixed with fiction. Here is the part that is fiction. It is not an indisputable fact that Professor Darshan Singh disobeyed the authority of the Supreme Seat of Sikhism.To the contrary, the Takht may have misused its authority by not taking steps consistent with the Sikh Rehat Maryada. In other words, there is a question of fact as to whether the Akal Takht acted according to Gurmat principles. Akal Takht may have waived its authority by ignoring the Sikh Rehat Maryada.[/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"Evidence has surfaced that more than two decades ago, two major freedom fighting organizations, Bhindranwala Tigers Force, and Babbar Khalsa International were suspicious of the heretic Ragi Darshan Singh, and acknowledged that he was unfit to serve as the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib during those turbulent times." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Nothing in this paragraph is a fact. First, no evidence is presented that Bhindranwale Tigers and Babbar Khalsa are “two major freedom fighting organizations." They believe they are major freedom fighting organizations, and bill themselves as such. That is an opinion not a fact. Moreover, all the so- called “evidence” that “surfaced more than two decades ago” is evidence of their suspicions. Suspicions are opinions and not evidence.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Suspicions are not indisputable. Merely suspecting Professor Darshan was a heretic does not make him a heretic, no matter how many times the authors repeat their suspicions. Moreover, the authors have not proved their case. They interpret events to mean that the Professor was unfit to serve as Jathedar. Each new offer of fact turns out to be nothing more than another expression of opinion. I will make this clear later in my responses.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"Many have suspected that was Ragi a mole working for the Government agencies, installed to actively derail and torpedo the Khalistan movement in the late 1980s. New evidence and suspicions raised by prominent Sikh leaders of the past seem to validate this notion." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]In this paragraph we read again about suspicions, that Professor Darshan Singh may have been a mole, and may have been installed as Jathedar to derail/torpoedo the Khalistan movement. We have no idea what the authors mean exactly by the "Khalistan movement" and this is important because the "Khalistan movement" took on many forms in the "late 1980's.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]" [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff] At this point in the article it seems the Professor is accused of having derailed some aspect of the movement. If we don't know what is meant by the "Khalistan movement" it is impossible to judge what he derailed, or whether he derailed anything at all. Later however we discover that he “derailed” Babbar Khalsa and [B]its [/B]Khalistan agenda. This is perfect example of how propaganda works: i.e., the authors employ [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff] derogatory [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, to promote or publicize their particular political cause or point of view.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"Ragi Darshan Singh was installed by the Tohra led Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) in late 1986. Although Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal was also declared Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib by a section of the Khalistan freedom fighters, he later resigned for the sake of Panthic unity. Little did he know about the treachery that was unfolding under the leadership of his successor." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]The above paragraph explains who "installed" Professor Darshan Singh as Jathedar. It was none other than the controversial Gurcharan Singh Tohra. There are many strikes against Gurcharan Singh Tohra. The authors omit 2 facts. The absence of these 2 facts is not only deafening, it makes my charge of propaganda even more serious. Fact 1: Tohra was elected head of the SGPC numerous times, when he was in favor, and when he was out of favor with Badal. That is a fact. As such it does nothing to help us understand why Professor Darshan Singh is a mole working for government agencies and installed to derail the Khalistan movement. Tohra at the time of Operation Bluestar backed Bhindranwale. To say that Baba Gurbachan Singh Manocchahal was declared Jathedar by a section of Kahlistan freedom fighters simply demonstrates how confused the authors of the article are about how one becomes Jathedar. Basically they are either out of touch with the political facts under the law, or they are deliberately persisting with misleading statements. To further state that Baba Gurbachan Singh Manocchahal resigned for the sake of panthic unity is not only a statement of opinion but it is a self-promoting and self-serving statement. More evidence of propaganda. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Fact 2: Professor Darshan Singh spent time in jail during the post-1984 period, following Bluestar and the Delhi pograms. He was imprisoned as part of a reign of terror that took over the Punjab. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]These facts support the opinion that he was credible choice for Jathedar, and hardly a traitor.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[COLOR=Black] [/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=Black]The Chandigarh Tribune narrates this shifting of power at the Sikh Takhts in their July 13th, 2002 editorial interestingly titled 'Misdeeds' of stalwarts during militancy. The Tribune editor notes:[/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Now this related article in the Chandigarh Tribune is put forth as evidence that the preceding paragraphs should be taken seriously. We are informed that have been “misdeeds.” This is only one example of inflammatory language that is peppered throughout. An editorial titled "misdeeds of stalwarts during militancy" sets the reader up. The reader thinks he/she soon will make some important discoveries. What are these "misdeeds?" The next paragraph tells us what these misdeeds are.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"The SGPC under Mr Tohra had sacked the head granthi of Darbara Sahib and secured and accepted the resignation of Giani Kirpal Singh and secured and accepted the resignation of Giani Kirpal Singh as Jathedar Akal Takht.” [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Now those are indeed statements of fact. Mr Tohra indeed sacked some people and forced the resignation of others. However, are they misdeeds? Or is there a more logical reading of the article? Is it not the case that the authors disagreed with the decisions taken by Mr. Tohra. Therefore to say misdeeds were committed is again misleading.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Moreover, this information has no bearing whatsoever on the accusations made against Professor Darshan Singh. How does that information help us understand that he was a mole or a derailer of the Khalistan movement? And how does it contribute to the charges that Professor is a heretic today? It does not clarify anything. The article cites decisions of Mr. Tohra that transpired 2 decades ago in order to smear the reputation of Professor Darshan Singh today, as "heretic.” This is not evidence and it does not help us understand why Professor Darshan Singh should be thought of as a mole, a traitor, a derailer, or a heretic. In what way does the Professor's relationship with Mr. Tohra 2 decades ago pertain to his stand on Dasam Granth today. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [COLOR=Blue]More editorial opinion follows that is offered as evidence. [/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"On December 31 (1986), Bhai Darshan Singh Raagi joined as jathedar. On January 23, 1987, the three head priests had also been dismissed and in their place, Giani Puran Singh, Giani Savinder Singh, Giani Jaswant Singh and Giani Kashmir Singh were appointed as high priests. The 'Sarbat khalsa' held on January 26, 1987, approved the resolution of April 29 for Khalistan and also the recent appointments of the high priests. In a recorded message of Gurbachan Singh Manochahal played to the gathering he resigned from the post of Jathedar, Akal Takht, to accommodate Bhai Darshan Singh in the larger interest of the Panth." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]At this point in the article some historical facts are put forth regarding the installation of Professor Darshan Singh and the appointment of 3 individuals as "high priests." It is curious to read "high priests" as Sikhi has no clergy and panthic.org purports to represent the "Sikh panth" as they define "panth." So certainly panthic.org would know that high priests is a frivolous term. Once again I find the claims made in the article to be clueless. How can anyone take seriously the claim that Gurbachan Singh Manochahal resigned from his post as Jathedar in order to accommodate the Professor and the larger interest of Panth? Manochahal was never the Jathedar to begin with. A better explanation would be this. There was some political wrangling between SGPC and Damdami Takht. Gurbachan Singh Manochahal believed himself to be the heir of the political and spiritual legacy of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. This is nothing more than a presumption on the part of Mr. Manochahal and his supporters. Mr. Manochahal in my humble opinion was a strategist trying to fill a gap left by the death of Jarnail Bhindranwale. He began by casting himself in as the lead actor and obvious choice for the part. We do not know from the article where Damdami Takht stood on his self-nomination.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=blue]Another editorial is placed in evidence to support the arguments of the main article. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2](July 13, 2002 , Tribune India) [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"Softening the Target : Ragi Darshan Singh and Shushil Muni [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Furthermore, the former Joint Director of India's Intelligence Bureau, Maloy Krishna Dhar, in his memoirs, states: [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"He (Rajiv Gandhi) has already played the peace card through Ragi Darshan Singh and a Jain preacher Sushil Muni…" [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2](Open Secrets – India's Intelligence Unveiled, Maloy Krishna Dhar, Manas Publications -2005) Perhaps, one of the strongest criticisms, and serious allegations leveled against the Ragi came from Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal. Baba Manochahal was the head of the Bhindranwala Tigers Force (BTF), and a key member of the Panthic Committee, at that time period." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]The persistent pattern of misleading the reader continues. Mr. Manochahal was in the habit of making strong criticisms and allegations against Professor Darshan Singh. Only this time the information is dressed up with a very dramatic statement in parentheses: "Open-Secrets - India's Intelligence Unveiled." Basically we are reading that Rajiv Gandhi played a peace card through Darshan Singh and a Jain preacher named Sushil Muni. Though it may be a fact that a peace card was played and that Professor Darshan Singh had a role to play, the authors make it sound as if it someone had to wrestle CIS to the ground to get the peace card by force. That is nothing short of hilarious. And how does a secret become an "Open Secret?" [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Reconsider the scenario. A secret peace card was played. Darshan Singh had something to do with it. Indian intelligence knew all along. Ultimately the secret was revealed.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff] It is this kind of melodramatic and manipulative language that suggests to me that the entire article was written to serve propaganda interests of Babbar Khalsa. And even if one takes their side in this controversy of 1987 onward, all that means is that one shares the same opinion. It hardly proves that anyone was a "traitor." This is just more name-calling, and probably a reflection of their resentment that Mr. Manochalal was ignored.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=blue]Another editorial is offered as evidence[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2].[COLOR=Blue] I have included excerpts. In the interests of not going on and on, some paragraphs were not included in my analysis here. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[COLOR=Blue][/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]“the 'Sikh Convention' on August 4th, 1987, [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]an event that would be the catalyst for derailing the Khalistan Movement” [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]… [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"The convention was called by the Takht Jathedars under the pretext that this assembly would 'define' the goals and objectives of the Sikh cause. Baba Manochahal and others openly questioned the need to define the Panth's goals and objectives when the Sarbat Khalsa had already done so. Baba Manochahal argued that the goal for the establishment of an independent Sikh Homeland, Khalistan had already been declared in 1984 and further ratified by the Sarbat Khalsa in 1986." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]… [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"At the gathering it was declared by the Ragi that the Sikh nation's goal was not an independent and separate homeland of Khalistan. Instead, the Sikhs should strive for a more more autonomy in India as promised by Pandit Nehru during the partition. The Sikhs no longer needed to fight an armed struggle declared the Ragi, self-governance and autonomy could only be gained through dialogue and votes." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"Chaos prevailed throughout at the convention, but this did not distract the Ragi from his task. This was perhaps the first direct attempt to derail the Khalistan struggle at the public level, and an insult to the declarations passed by the Sarbat Khalsa in 1986." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]All of the above can be summed up in one short paragraph. Baba Manochahal and his associates were angry. Their Khalistan agenda was “derailed.” Their agenda was not supported. They were irked by the following developments. To press for “dialogue and votes” was in their view wrong because it was not Baba’s agenda. There was "chaos" and the convention was controversial (according to supporters of Baba Manochahal). Professor Darshan Singh was "chided" by Baba's representive Bhai Daya Singh Chohia for his backtracking on the BTF Khalistan agenda. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]So what should we conclude from all of this? Professor Darshan Singh and the Singh Sahibans disagreed with Baba. That is it! Nothing more can be learned from this news insert. Disagreement is not treachery nor is it treason. Certainly it is not heresy. So why is this information destined to play any part in a discussion in which Professor Darshan Singh is painted as heretic and tankhiaya? It is the classic straw man argument. The reader should believe the authors: this guy Darshan Singh is a really bad guy because he disagrees with Baba. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]:eek: [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=blue]Yet more editorial writing is offered as evidence against the Professor, including a “fiery” speech reproduced as an audio file in this thread. I have cast in bold the use of inflammatory language to demonstrate that we are reading propaganda.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]… [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"Some of main points and questions raised by Baba Manochahal to the Singh Sahibans were as follows: [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * Has the Panth actually been [B]fighting without an real objective/goal[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] for the last five years? [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * Since 1984, the struggle for Khalistan was lauched when the Indian Government attacked Sri Dabar Sahib. This is according to the words of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * All Sikh Jujharoo (freedom fighting) organizations [B]are struggling[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] for the establishment of Khalistan. What objective are you trying to define? [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * Does this Sikh Convention want [B]to put the Sikh Nation at the mercy of those so-called Sikh leaders who assisted the Government in the assault on Sri Darbar Sahib,[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] Sri Akal Takht Sahib, [B]and the destruction of hundreds of Saroops (of Guru Granth Sahib Ji), [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]and [B]the elimination of thousands of Singhs, Bibis, and children? [/B] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * Singh Sahibs, we [B]smell the stench[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] that you have joined the Center, who is all [B]too eager to appease the Jujharoo Singhs on the basis of Sri Anandpur Sahib Resolutions[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]. You are now speaking of defining goals, if you still have not understood the goals of the Panth, then what else can the Panth expect from you? [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * Singh Sahibs, time will expose the truth. Is it not your intention at this program to [B]weaken the resolve of the Sikh organizations fighting for Khalistan, and create chaos in the Sikh community?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * Do you still have faith in the Indian Government? The same [B]government that is actively destroying and eliminating Sikh institutions, the Sikh identity, and Sikh culture? [/B] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * If you still have faith in such a Government, then [B]there is no one who is in a dark pit than you,[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] regardless of how high your current position is. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] * All Sikhs respect Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and the positions of the Singh Sahibans, but [B]no one will be allowed to become a government stooge while holding such a respectable position.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] It needs to be made clear that [B]only those Singhs can serve the Panth that are ready and willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of the Panth." [/B][COLOR=Blue]More propaganda.[/COLOR][B][/B] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"Regardless of the strong opposition by Baba Manochahal and other Jujharoo Singhs, the Ragi and the convention organizers passed resolution that would attempt to derail the Khalistan struggle by redefining it as simply a movement for further autonomy for Punjabis in the current Indian framework." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"The next day Punjabi papers eagerly flashed the redefined objective by the Jathdars all over the front-pages. It seemed like the first steps of the Government planned coup to hijack the Sikh Freedom struggle from the Jujharoo organizations had been successfully accomplished – thanks to the Ragi, and his SGPC cohorts." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#3942ff]It is a fact that saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib were destroyed in Bluestar, and it is a fact, a horrendous fact, that scores of men, women and children became martyrs. Blood ran into the sarovar of Sri Hamindir Sahib. Blood ran in the streets in Delhi. It is also apparent that the authors are shamelessly using the suffering, martyrdom and sacrifices of these individuals to bolster their own political agenda, and they are hiding behind the reputation of these martyrs because they have no reputation of their own worthy of respect. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#3942ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#3942ff]Instead of evidence we are given proclamations. The article is chest-thumping by political operatives who for some years have been marginalized. Instead of offering evidence, we read words like "at the mercy of" "smell the stench" "create chaos" "government stooge." The article also makes some assumptions of fact. For example it argues that [I]To abandon Khalistan is to place the Sikh Nation at the mercy of Sikh leaders who assisted the Government. And that to abandon Khalistan is akin to destroying Sikh institutions.[/I] The article does make one interesting plea: that no one should become a government stooge while occupying the respectable position of jathedar. I agree with that in principle. I share that opinion. Curiously, in our current crisis, jathedars have not so much become stooges of the government while holding positions of trust. Rather Badal, by 2003, had so strengthened his grip on SGPC that the position of jathedar had evolved into something that was clearly a post of civil servant.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#3942ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#3942ff]More non-evidence offered so we will believe it.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Front page of Ajit on the Ragi organized 'Sikh convention' [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"In a seperate audio, Baba Gurbachan Singh Mahochahal shared his views on the treachary by the Ragi his predecessors. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Voice of Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal: [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2](click to listen)" [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"The Ragi backtracked on his promise to uphold the resolutions on Khalistan, and has walked away from his duty. The Kharkoo Singhs put their trust in him, but he failed them. The Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib not be a person controlled by the Government. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]- Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal Bhai Daya Singh was later killed by the Indian forces near the village Jandiala Guru. Many members of Bhai Daya Singh were also killed in the coming months. Baba Gurbachan Singh Monchahal was killed in February 1993." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#3942ff]Exactly what was the hand that Professor Darshan Singh played as far as these deaths at the hands of Indian Forces is concerned? We are left with suggestions and there is nothing solid in the way of evidence to demonstrate that the above is true.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#3942ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#3942ff]Another “news report” without any facts follows.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]News report of Bhai Daya Sinh's Shaheedee [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Babbar Khalsa Deputy-Chief Dissociates from Ragi [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"When it became clear that the Ragi was working in the interest of the central government, activists of the Babbar Khalsa International, who like other Jujharoo organizations had originally supported the Ragi in his early days at the Jathedar, also became suspicious of his activities." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=blue]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=blue]The following voluntary admission of a home invasion is considered by the authors to be an act justified by religious faith, fervor and devotion. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=blue]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"An incident narrated by Babbar Khalsa International Deputy-Chief Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar stands out. Bhai Sahib was the main liaison between the Jathedars and the BKI leadership. During the late 1980s, Bhai Sulakhan Singh had made a surprise visit to the residence where Ragi Darshan Singh was staying." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]… [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=blue]The description of a home invation – or if you like, breaking and entering. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=Blue]Certainly this is a crime in India. Or if BTF is behind it does that make it an OK thing to do? [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[COLOR=Blue][/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"When Bhai Sulakhan Singh entered the Ragi's residence he discovered that the Ragi was in the middle of a meal that included objectionable items, including eggs and omlet. Being a Rahitvaan Singh Bhai Sulakhan Singh immediately scolded the Ragi for being an Akal Takht Jathedar and violating the Sikh code of conduct. The Ragi defended the consumption of meat and stated they were considered Jhatka and thus allowed by the Panth. Bhai Sulakhan Singh further scolded him for making up such excuses, and for betraying the sacred position of the Takht, and stated this would be the last time he and the BKI organization would communicate with him." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]From this article all I can glean is that Professor Darshan Singh had a meeting at his house. That various of his political opponents had suspicions. That Bahi Sulakhan Singh assumed he had the right to conduct a raid, but this in most other contexts this "raid" would be considered[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][B] a felony.[/B] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]The article reports that Professor was eating an omelet and possibly some other items, described as "offensive dietary habits" and "shady morals." To give them the benefit of the doubt, the individuals conducting the raid did not appear to know that the SRM does not forbid eating eggs or meat. The Professor stands accused of consuming alcohol, although it is not clear that alcohol was discovered during the raid. Those conducting the raid do not seem to view breaking and entering a home as evidence of their own shady morals.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]… [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"Interestingly, over the years further information has come out about the offensive dietary habits and shady morals of the Ragi, including the consumption of alcohol. Now he is often referred to as a "[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]ਸ਼ਰਾਬੀ[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]-[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]ਕਬਾਬੀ[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]ਜਥੇਦਾਰ[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]" due to such transgressions." [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]… "There is no question that the Ragi was unfit to lead the Sikhs during those turbulent times. So why was a man who has no religious or Panthic loyalty installed at the Sikhs' apex Takht? Perhaps it was for a different cause - to undermine the Sikh leadership of that time, and create chaos in the masses. Isn't that what the Ragi is doing now? Undermining the Sikh leadership and creating chaos?" [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]… [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]"The echoes of the warnings given by the great Shaheeds Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal and Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar are as relevant as they were two decades ago. The question is - are we listening?" [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]… [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]The authors pose this question: Are we listening? What are we supposed to listen to? Here is their bottom line. [B]If you disagreed two decades ago with Baba Gurbachan Singh and Bahi Sulakhan Singh, and you were legally appointed to a high religious office, ate eggs or meat, attempted to explain what the SRM has to say about meat and jatka, had dietary habits that are less rigorous than the strict habits of Babbar Khalsa, abandoned Khalistan as a primary political goal, and[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/#_Hlk123993780%091,800,1164,0,,1%20chief"][I][/I][/URL][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff][B] favored dialog and votes, and if you take issue with home-invasions, obviously then you are guilty of creating chaos in the past and undermining the panth today.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] :eek: [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]Sangat ji – Let’s go back to the definition of propaganda. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [I][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff][B]1 [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]chiefly derogatory [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]• [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#1119ff]the dissemination of such information as a political strategy [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/I][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] [B]That is all from me for now. I may come back to this later.[/B] [/SIZE][/FONT] <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--EndFragment--> [/QUOTE]
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