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<blockquote data-quote="Bittu" data-source="post: 130035" data-attributes="member: 7216"><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Dear </span></span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/members/seeker9.html" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: dodgerblue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Seeker9</span></span></strong></a><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">,</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Your comments in </span></span><span style="color: #00b050"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Green</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> and my in Red. <?"urn:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />ffice<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />ffice" /></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">No you had to make some assumptions about what measurements were being referred to</span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">No, I didn’t make any assumption, it is logical that those who build the Temple and wrote Bible were Hebrew (Israelite) and they used their (Hebrew) measurement and not British or Indian measurement. So, it is not assumption but a simple <strong><u>Logic</u></strong> that we too would have to use their measurement to get the values from their material.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">You have divined meaning from numbers and letters and you have used different languages as well. Would Pi work in Greek. Would e work in Hebrew? It's all completely irrelevant because there are countless other languages where neither would work.</span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">This is not science and please do not insult our intelligence by trying to pass it of as science.</span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">What you wrote here, simply shows you know nothing about Bible. If you knew you would know why I used different languages. Well, let me tell you, Bible has 2 parts, 1-Old Testament and 2-New testament. Old Testament was written in <strong><u>Hebrew</u> </strong>and New Testament was written in<strong> <u>Greek</u>. </strong></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Why would I use other languages other than those in which Bible was revealed? Why would it work in other languages, when Bible is in Greek & Hebrew? </span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">These are the languages in which Bible was/is written. As Adi Granth is written in <strong><u>Gurumukhi</u></strong><u>.</u>That’s why I used Hebrew for Genesis 1:1 (Old Testament) and Greek for John 1:1(New Testament).</span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> </span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Please take a look, 2+2=4 and 5+5=10, now tell me why not 2+2=10, and 5+5=4? How did you think numbers which gives value of Pi will give value of e and which gives value of e will give of value of Pi? It’s illogical!!! If it is not Science then what is? Sorry to say, but please tell me where is intelligence, if these simple things we don’t understand? </span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I could say the exact same about you not accepting the counter proofs that have been posted on this thread including videos of scientists who are known and respected throughout the world.</span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Excuse me? The proofs I presented leaves no room for doubt!! They are irrefutable. And I’m sure you have not checked them. I too posted links where well known and respected scientists are talking. As I said, before, Creationists are not K.G. students; they too are PhD holders and Scientists. Evolution promoters just listen to Evolutionists, and this is unfair, to be fair you must listen to both of them!!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Really? Where you there?</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">How could you say that? Being an evolutionist you must know that, because your own evolutionist scientists are saying that!! This is not my invention!!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">By the way, were you or Evolutionist there to see Evolution and Apes becoming Humans?</span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">You must have been there to know all this in so much detail.......</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Again, this is not me but your own evolutionists, I don’t believe Human was idiot/witless, it’s your Evolution science!! You must ask these questions to yourself and other evolutionists!!!!!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">My friend, I would note that I am almost twice your age and have more life experience and have been reading up on this sort of stuff almost as long as you have lived. You will afford me more courtesy if you want me to continue in this debate. I note I already commended you on the scale of your work on your website.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I really, thank for what you did; and please forgive me if I offended you. I never intended that.</span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">A</span></span><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">nd you didn't answer my question. I asked what the percentage was.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I did not write because I gave you links where many things along with % are mentioned.</span></span> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">It proves you have not taken my posts seriously. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Our bodies contain a lot of water but we wouldn't compare ourselves to the ocean would we. Sorry I don't mean to be rude but I would have to say this is a silly argument. Does a cabbage have a head, arms and legs? Do mice have hands? Do humans or apes have wings? Or petals? Evolution looks for patterns and similarities. Do humans and apes have heads, arms, legs, fingers and toes? Yes they most certainly do!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Look just anatomical or genetic similarities don’t prove evolution. And what I wrote nothing is silly there because evolutionists consider genetics greater than anatomy, and all their main arguments for evolution are from Genetics not Anatomy. Why Just consider Human and chimpanzee, why not Gibbon, Lar Gibbon, Barbary, Siamang, Langur, Drill, Babun, Sloth, Lemurs, they all have heads, arms, legs, fingers and toes. By the way mice resembles us much, that’s why scientist experiment on them first and then on humans.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Why don’t you and evolutionists see patterns and similarities in Dog & Bear and other animals like them? Are they ancestors of each other?</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Why are human not turning into something else? Why Apes are not becoming Humans?</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">If Evolution is true then there is no need of God as Evolutionists say. The whole universe can go on without God, if evolution is true. At least I am not descended from Apes, but Evolutionists might be!!</span></span></p><p><strong><u><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">NO Humans promote racism</span></span></u></strong><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">NO Humans who believe in Evolution promote Racism.</span></span> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Please study the history of Nazism and Communism, both groups believed in Darwin’s Evolution, and on its basis they justified their deeds. </span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> </span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">And has God told you that the Bible supports your interpretation? I have already mentioned that one of the largest and longest established branches of your religion takes an alternative view. I have no objection to freedom of speech but would ask you to recognize where you are in the grand scheme of things and don't be too quick to judge others.</span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Roman Catholic Church has not officially defined her position on issues of Evolution like Cosmological, Biological. Roman Catholic Church does not believe that humans existed before or beside Adam & Eve (at their time). She believes that First humans Adam and Eve existed in 4000 B.C. She does not believe that God made an Ape which billions of years later became Human. All these things contradict Evolution Theory though RCC confess to believe in </span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><em>theistic evolution</em></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">. As I mentioned some things here, according to Bible God Created Man not an Ape which became man His created all things instantly, He commanded and it came into existence. That’s why my interpretation is right!!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #00b050"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Here is an interesting article on the composition of Genesis.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #00b050"><a href="http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/genesis_texts.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #00b050"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/genesis_texts.html</span></span></a> </span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I read that article, and I want to tell you whatever that man wrote is already been refuted. Even I can refute his silly, scholarly misinterpretation. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Actually I am content with what I have already studied to date thank you.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">We should keep learning, we should update our knowledge. Take my posts seriously and read those sites, don’t just deny Creationism just because you think evolution is true/ or it is popular. I am half of your age it doesn’t mean I am wrong. But its ok you think you are satisfied with what you have already studied.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Thanks </span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">May God bless you.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></span></p><p><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bittu, post: 130035, member: 7216"] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Dear [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/members/seeker9.html"][B][COLOR=dodgerblue][FONT=Verdana]Seeker9[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3],[/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Your comments in [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#00b050][FONT=Arial]Green[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial] and my in Red. <?"urn::office:office" />[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]<o:p> </o:p>[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]No you had to make some assumptions about what measurements were being referred to[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]<o:p> </o:p>[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]No, I didn’t make any assumption, it is logical that those who build the Temple and wrote Bible were Hebrew (Israelite) and they used their (Hebrew) measurement and not British or Indian measurement. So, it is not assumption but a simple [B][U]Logic[/U][/B] that we too would have to use their measurement to get the values from their material.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]You have divined meaning from numbers and letters and you have used different languages as well. Would Pi work in Greek. Would e work in Hebrew? It's all completely irrelevant because there are countless other languages where neither would work.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]This is not science and please do not insult our intelligence by trying to pass it of as science.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]What you wrote here, simply shows you know nothing about Bible. If you knew you would know why I used different languages. Well, let me tell you, Bible has 2 parts, 1-Old Testament and 2-New testament. Old Testament was written in [B][U]Hebrew[/U] [/B]and New Testament was written in[B] [U]Greek[/U]. [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]Why would I use other languages other than those in which Bible was revealed? Why would it work in other languages, when Bible is in Greek & Hebrew? [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]These are the languages in which Bible was/is written. As Adi Granth is written in [B][U]Gurumukhi[/U][/B][U].[/U]That’s why I used Hebrew for Genesis 1:1 (Old Testament) and Greek for John 1:1(New Testament).[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]Please take a look, 2+2=4 and 5+5=10, now tell me why not 2+2=10, and 5+5=4? How did you think numbers which gives value of Pi will give value of e and which gives value of e will give of value of Pi? It’s illogical!!! If it is not Science then what is? Sorry to say, but please tell me where is intelligence, if these simple things we don’t understand? [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]I could say the exact same about you not accepting the counter proofs that have been posted on this thread including videos of scientists who are known and respected throughout the world.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Excuse me? The proofs I presented leaves no room for doubt!! They are irrefutable. And I’m sure you have not checked them. I too posted links where well known and respected scientists are talking. As I said, before, Creationists are not K.G. students; they too are PhD holders and Scientists. Evolution promoters just listen to Evolutionists, and this is unfair, to be fair you must listen to both of them!![/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]Really? Where you there?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]How could you say that? Being an evolutionist you must know that, because your own evolutionist scientists are saying that!! This is not my invention!![/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]By the way, were you or Evolutionist there to see Evolution and Apes becoming Humans?[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]You must have been there to know all this in so much detail.......[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Again, this is not me but your own evolutionists, I don’t believe Human was idiot/witless, it’s your Evolution science!! You must ask these questions to yourself and other evolutionists!!!!! [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]My friend, I would note that I am almost twice your age and have more life experience and have been reading up on this sort of stuff almost as long as you have lived. You will afford me more courtesy if you want me to continue in this debate. I note I already commended you on the scale of your work on your website.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]I really, thank for what you did; and please forgive me if I offended you. I never intended that.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Verdana]A[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]nd you didn't answer my question. I asked what the percentage was.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]I did not write because I gave you links where many things along with % are mentioned.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]It proves you have not taken my posts seriously. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]Our bodies contain a lot of water but we wouldn't compare ourselves to the ocean would we. Sorry I don't mean to be rude but I would have to say this is a silly argument. Does a cabbage have a head, arms and legs? Do mice have hands? Do humans or apes have wings? Or petals? Evolution looks for patterns and similarities. Do humans and apes have heads, arms, legs, fingers and toes? Yes they most certainly do![/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Look just anatomical or genetic similarities don’t prove evolution. And what I wrote nothing is silly there because evolutionists consider genetics greater than anatomy, and all their main arguments for evolution are from Genetics not Anatomy. Why Just consider Human and chimpanzee, why not Gibbon, Lar Gibbon, Barbary, Siamang, Langur, Drill, Babun, Sloth, Lemurs, they all have heads, arms, legs, fingers and toes. By the way mice resembles us much, that’s why scientist experiment on them first and then on humans.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Why don’t you and evolutionists see patterns and similarities in Dog & Bear and other animals like them? Are they ancestors of each other?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Why are human not turning into something else? Why Apes are not becoming Humans?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]If Evolution is true then there is no need of God as Evolutionists say. The whole universe can go on without God, if evolution is true. At least I am not descended from Apes, but Evolutionists might be!![/FONT][/COLOR] [B][U][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]NO Humans promote racism[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/B][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]NO Humans who believe in Evolution promote Racism.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Please study the history of Nazism and Communism, both groups believed in Darwin’s Evolution, and on its basis they justified their deeds. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]And has God told you that the Bible supports your interpretation? I have already mentioned that one of the largest and longest established branches of your religion takes an alternative view. I have no objection to freedom of speech but would ask you to recognize where you are in the grand scheme of things and don't be too quick to judge others.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Roman Catholic Church has not officially defined her position on issues of Evolution like Cosmological, Biological. Roman Catholic Church does not believe that humans existed before or beside Adam & Eve (at their time). She believes that First humans Adam and Eve existed in 4000 B.C. She does not believe that God made an Ape which billions of years later became Human. All these things contradict Evolution Theory though RCC confess to believe in [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial][I]theistic evolution[/I][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]. As I mentioned some things here, according to Bible God Created Man not an Ape which became man His created all things instantly, He commanded and it came into existence. That’s why my interpretation is right!![/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#00b050][FONT=Arial]Here is an interesting article on the composition of Genesis.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#00b050][URL="http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/genesis_texts.html"][COLOR=#00b050][FONT=Verdana]http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/genesis_texts.html[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#00b050][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]I read that article, and I want to tell you whatever that man wrote is already been refuted. Even I can refute his silly, scholarly misinterpretation. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]Actually I am content with what I have already studied to date thank you.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]We should keep learning, we should update our knowledge. Take my posts seriously and read those sites, don’t just deny Creationism just because you think evolution is true/ or it is popular. I am half of your age it doesn’t mean I am wrong. But its ok you think you are satisfied with what you have already studied.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]Thanks [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Arial]May God bless you.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]<o:p> </o:p>[/FONT][/COLOR] <o:p>[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p> [/QUOTE]
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