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<blockquote data-quote="Seeker9" data-source="post: 129866" data-attributes="member: 11719"><p>Dear Bittu Ji</p><p> </p><p>Thanks for providing another viewpoint</p><p> </p><p>I would like to reply to some of the issues you have raised in your post:</p><p> </p><p style="text-align: left"><p style="text-align: left"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">When Creationists say Earth is Young, it is not billions of yrs old, but just thousands they are not wrong in their argument. You cannot prove Universe & Earth is billions of yrs old, just from carbon dating (C14) of fossils. Carbon dating is neither 100% right nor it is fully reliable<?"urn:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />ffice<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />ffice" /></span></span></span></em></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">That is very true but it is not wildly inaccurate either. Which it would have to be to close the gap of billions and thousands of years</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Creationists have proofs for their arguments and you must check them.</span></span></span></em></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I would very much like to learn more…perhaps you could direct me to where I can find these proofs. Also, it would be good to know what your understanding of these proofs are</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Evolutionist cannot prove Big-bang </span></span></span></em></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Very true as one is the domain of Biology whereas the other is the domain of theoretical physics</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">neither <?xml::<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />ffice:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />lace w:st="on">Darwin’s useless theories and about their arguments, </span></span></span></em></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Personally, I would not call a theory that can explain at least 95% of what we can observe in nature today as useless</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Creationists can refute them all.</span></span></span></em></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">As noted in an earlier post, I agree the concept of “Irreducible Complexity” merits further investigation</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Young Earth Creationism and Christianity are completely compatible with established modern science.</span></span></span></em></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Not with carbon dating or the geological record. Despite what you see in the movies, to my knowledge there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Dinosaurs and man ever co-existed. If you can provide some evidence contrary to that, I would very much like to see it.</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">But one would expect primitive man would have been more likely to have been eaten by the Dinosaurs than the other way round!</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/31383-are-science-and-religion-compatible.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #001f4b">http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=31383</span></a></span></span><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #001f4b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I also want to say here that the Holy Bible is the only <u>oldest</u> book in the world which is scientifically correct</span></span></em></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I’m afraid I will disagree with you flatly on that one and suggest you do some research on the Vedas which very easily pre-date The Bible</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: black"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If you want to see whether Bible is scientifically correct or not, visit my site </span><a href="http://ktzion.webs.com/scienceandthebible.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://ktzion.webs.com/scienceandthebible.htm</span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> .</span></span></em></p> </p><p><!-- google_ad_section_end --><p style="text-align: left"><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I was compelled to make these points for now but I will look at this website and post again</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />> </o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">We are here to debate, discuss and learn from each other. Maybe I am reading things wrong but I would respectfully suggest that the tone and some of your comments were not merited in light of earlier posts</span></span></span></p> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seeker9, post: 129866, member: 11719"] Dear Bittu Ji Thanks for providing another viewpoint I would like to reply to some of the issues you have raised in your post: [LEFT][LEFT][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]When Creationists say Earth is Young, it is not billions of yrs old, but just thousands they are not wrong in their argument. You cannot prove Universe & Earth is billions of yrs old, just from carbon dating (C14) of fossils. Carbon dating is neither 100% right nor it is fully reliable<?"urn::office:office" />[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]That is very true but it is not wildly inaccurate either. Which it would have to be to close the gap of billions and thousands of years[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Creationists have proofs for their arguments and you must check them.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]I would very much like to learn more…perhaps you could direct me to where I can find these proofs. Also, it would be good to know what your understanding of these proofs are[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Evolutionist cannot prove Big-bang [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]Very true as one is the domain of Biology whereas the other is the domain of theoretical physics[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]neither <?xml:::office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Darwin’s useless theories and about their arguments, [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]Personally, I would not call a theory that can explain at least 95% of what we can observe in nature today as useless[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Creationists can refute them all.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]As noted in an earlier post, I agree the concept of “Irreducible Complexity” merits further investigation[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Young Earth Creationism and Christianity are completely compatible with established modern science.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Not with carbon dating or the geological record. Despite what you see in the movies, to my knowledge there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Dinosaurs and man ever co-existed. If you can provide some evidence contrary to that, I would very much like to see it.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]But one would expect primitive man would have been more likely to have been eaten by the Dinosaurs than the other way round![/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana]Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/31383-are-science-and-religion-compatible.html"][COLOR=#001f4b]http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=31383[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#001f4b][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]I also want to say here that the Holy Bible is the only [U]oldest[/U] book in the world which is scientifically correct[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]I’m afraid I will disagree with you flatly on that one and suggest you do some research on the Vedas which very easily pre-date The Bible[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=black]<o:p>[FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT]</o:p>[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]If you want to see whether Bible is scientifically correct or not, visit my site [/FONT][URL="http://ktzion.webs.com/scienceandthebible.htm"][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]http://ktzion.webs.com/scienceandthebible.htm[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman] .[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/LEFT][/LEFT] <!-- google_ad_section_end -->[LEFT][LEFT][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]I was compelled to make these points for now but I will look at this website and post again[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial]<o:p>[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]</o:p>[/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=green][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]We are here to debate, discuss and learn from each other. Maybe I am reading things wrong but I would respectfully suggest that the tone and some of your comments were not merited in light of earlier posts[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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