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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Sikhilove" data-source="post: 207702" data-attributes="member: 21097"><p>Lol nonsense can also work- to each their own- language is limited anyway, Truth is beyond logic and language.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You originally said that humans are dependant upon one another, I merely stated that they are not. There are plenty of hermits and jungle folk who get by just fine on their own. </p><p></p><p>I pointed out that people in general, especially now, have a higher standard of living and in order to maintain this, as well as due to laws and societal rules, we contribute our part.Some people may also work to make and give daswand.</p><p></p><p>Yes sikhi does promote sangat and pangat, but 'society' in general does not agree with this- the real outcaste of society is the detached, (who practices truthful living, beyond the 'nonsense' reactions and thoughts in maya) and these souls together, are the real sangat. The detached live life, but live the Truth Psychology whilst living. </p><p></p><p>The Gurus introduced sangat and pangat at a time where muslims were killing, raping and plundering, and factions were fighting amongst themselves. The human race and society isn't one big happy family- not everyone gets along and people are still killing raping and plundering, but the Gurus found a way to bring souls who were able to humble themselves enough to enter a Gurdwara together and gave them the opportunity to learn gurbani and truthful living from a teacher- a sangat of students.</p><p>The Gurus recognised that sangat should be of the spiritual and temporal and this is how people could live in harmony and unity.</p><p></p><p>..</p><p>How about, there is no heaven or hell- there is no ego, there is no maya, its all just Maharaj teaching us reactions to emotions. If you can stare any image in the khel in the face and recognise this, then you are detached.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Truthful living is living in the knowledge that we are already free, the balance already exists- but the discoveries are endless, so we keep on discovering whilst detaching from the face of the khel.</p><p></p><p>I never said we shut ourselves up from the world, we embrace dukh and sukh head on, with the knowledge that they are all just Parbrahm. We can still feel pain and pleasure because they are there to be discovered- but we recognise them as Him. It's a psychology, if you're living a messed up psychology, you're in attachment to the illusion, i.e you believe it to be real.</p><p></p><p>Agreed that the Gurus still lived their lives, we are born to live- but their psychology and reactions were of advanced Truth. They were immortal because of the psychology they lived, they Applied and Lived the gyan of Gurbani. We are already merged, we just don't realise/ forget it. They lived the life experience like everyone else, whilst remembering the gyan, out of True Love. Hence they did not anger, they did not lie, they were not lustful, greedy, envious or jealous. Faced with souls who lived these qualities, they recognised them as the Creator.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes they did teach us, and taught us so we can apply the True teachings ourselves (independence- detachment).</p><p>They taught us to accept ourselves as lowest of the low, as we truly are nothing- no colour no image no form- no Ego- thats the Truth, and that is Nirboah and Nirvair.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed about the frequency, but if it were to be described in language (and language is limited) that would be what it is. Even anhad naad is just a Symbolic reflection of Truth- it doesnt exist. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rather, All Is the spiritual, the Nothingness, because thats what we are- simply projections of The Truth that the True King himself discovered Himself to be. He is One.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you, I hope you enjoyed yours <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sikhilove, post: 207702, member: 21097"] Lol nonsense can also work- to each their own- language is limited anyway, Truth is beyond logic and language. You originally said that humans are dependant upon one another, I merely stated that they are not. There are plenty of hermits and jungle folk who get by just fine on their own. I pointed out that people in general, especially now, have a higher standard of living and in order to maintain this, as well as due to laws and societal rules, we contribute our part.Some people may also work to make and give daswand. Yes sikhi does promote sangat and pangat, but 'society' in general does not agree with this- the real outcaste of society is the detached, (who practices truthful living, beyond the 'nonsense' reactions and thoughts in maya) and these souls together, are the real sangat. The detached live life, but live the Truth Psychology whilst living. The Gurus introduced sangat and pangat at a time where muslims were killing, raping and plundering, and factions were fighting amongst themselves. The human race and society isn't one big happy family- not everyone gets along and people are still killing raping and plundering, but the Gurus found a way to bring souls who were able to humble themselves enough to enter a Gurdwara together and gave them the opportunity to learn gurbani and truthful living from a teacher- a sangat of students. The Gurus recognised that sangat should be of the spiritual and temporal and this is how people could live in harmony and unity. .. How about, there is no heaven or hell- there is no ego, there is no maya, its all just Maharaj teaching us reactions to emotions. If you can stare any image in the khel in the face and recognise this, then you are detached. Truthful living is living in the knowledge that we are already free, the balance already exists- but the discoveries are endless, so we keep on discovering whilst detaching from the face of the khel. I never said we shut ourselves up from the world, we embrace dukh and sukh head on, with the knowledge that they are all just Parbrahm. We can still feel pain and pleasure because they are there to be discovered- but we recognise them as Him. It's a psychology, if you're living a messed up psychology, you're in attachment to the illusion, i.e you believe it to be real. Agreed that the Gurus still lived their lives, we are born to live- but their psychology and reactions were of advanced Truth. They were immortal because of the psychology they lived, they Applied and Lived the gyan of Gurbani. We are already merged, we just don't realise/ forget it. They lived the life experience like everyone else, whilst remembering the gyan, out of True Love. Hence they did not anger, they did not lie, they were not lustful, greedy, envious or jealous. Faced with souls who lived these qualities, they recognised them as the Creator. Yes they did teach us, and taught us so we can apply the True teachings ourselves (independence- detachment). They taught us to accept ourselves as lowest of the low, as we truly are nothing- no colour no image no form- no Ego- thats the Truth, and that is Nirboah and Nirvair. Agreed about the frequency, but if it were to be described in language (and language is limited) that would be what it is. Even anhad naad is just a Symbolic reflection of Truth- it doesnt exist. Rather, All Is the spiritual, the Nothingness, because thats what we are- simply projections of The Truth that the True King himself discovered Himself to be. He is One. Thank you, I hope you enjoyed yours :) [/QUOTE]
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