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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="seeker3k" data-source="post: 125616" data-attributes="member: 6459"><p>Smiles And Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji,</p><p></p><p>It is nice tail what we use to call batan that older folks were use to tell us at night time.</p><p></p><p>I agre with you on that there are brahmgyani and one can become brahgyani too. But when one become brahgyani he have no maan dil. Every thing is done due to maan. Even man do things out of mind. His maan get angree he curse, his maan is pleased he bless, Brahmgyani have no maan so he can not get angree nor pleased. So doing kirpa or curse is out of the question. With certain meditation one can get some power that he can manipulate the nature. Scientist are doing that every day. I don’t understand whay educated people don’t understand that SGGS is a guide. It was never meant to do path. It was to be understood and live by it. Because it is in poetry we believe that it should be sung. It is like reading a guide that comes with TV when we buy it. If we don’t do what the guide tell us to do. Eg: plug the TV in the plug and turn the tuner to the channel that we want to watch. If we don’t do that we cant watch TV.</p><p></p><p>We turn on the radio to listen to music or any thing. We must turn to certain station. The person at the station is speaking in the mic that sound is converted into sound that travel through the air through the walls. We can listen to it thousands miles away. Is that a miracle? No it is science nothing more. As Gyani ji said the God can change his hukam in split sec. The question is why would God change his own hukam?Is he upset on some one or is he pleases by some one? If brahmgyani has no maan then can God have maan? As reading the guide we can not watch TV it is same that we can not please God or make him anger. If so then why the charade? Every thing is sound. When we change the sound to ultra sound we can see thing in the body. That sound is called dhun in SGGS. The question is how can we make that or listen to that dhun? At the end of mool mantar there is one word called jaap. What is that mean? It is before the next verse of japji. What is that jaap mean? Does any one knows what the Nanak was telling us to do, do the jaap of what? Ther is no waheguru here. This mantar have to blessed by the guru (gurparsad).</p><p></p><p>Only doing the jaap of this naam we can hear and make that dhun, That dhun will take one to brahma then he become brahmgyani. With doing meditaion on any other naam one can attain some powers to manipulate some part of nature but can never become brahmgyani.</p><p></p><p>This sant did get 6 months for your mom. But he could not get her to live for ever. He did it out of his maan you can argue that he did not wanted any money. But there some thing much more bigger then money. It is to control people to convince other people that he have the power. We can not see it because we are week and want our mom to be with us for few more month. Your mom saw the sikh bhoots. The soul has no akar. It is not solid thing. How can she saw the Sikh’s souls with open beard? By saying this we are led to believe that there are many heavens for different religions. Or it maybe for different casts as the brahmans had us believed. </p><p></p><p>It is easy to become brahamgyani at the same time it is very difficult. For brahmgyani there is no enemy he teat every one same. If we look at our behavior we can know we don’t see any one who treat every one same. For us Sikhs if it don’t measure up to Sikhism then it is not true. I wonder how people lived before the Sikhism. It is pure ego that nothing can be better then Sikhism. When we have this ego how can one become brahmgyani?</p><p></p><p>First find out what is true naam</p><p></p><p>seeker3k</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seeker3k, post: 125616, member: 6459"] Smiles And Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji, It is nice tail what we use to call batan that older folks were use to tell us at night time. I agre with you on that there are brahmgyani and one can become brahgyani too. But when one become brahgyani he have no maan dil. Every thing is done due to maan. Even man do things out of mind. His maan get angree he curse, his maan is pleased he bless, Brahmgyani have no maan so he can not get angree nor pleased. So doing kirpa or curse is out of the question. With certain meditation one can get some power that he can manipulate the nature. Scientist are doing that every day. I don’t understand whay educated people don’t understand that SGGS is a guide. It was never meant to do path. It was to be understood and live by it. Because it is in poetry we believe that it should be sung. It is like reading a guide that comes with TV when we buy it. If we don’t do what the guide tell us to do. Eg: plug the TV in the plug and turn the tuner to the channel that we want to watch. If we don’t do that we cant watch TV. We turn on the radio to listen to music or any thing. We must turn to certain station. The person at the station is speaking in the mic that sound is converted into sound that travel through the air through the walls. We can listen to it thousands miles away. Is that a miracle? No it is science nothing more. As Gyani ji said the God can change his hukam in split sec. The question is why would God change his own hukam?Is he upset on some one or is he pleases by some one? If brahmgyani has no maan then can God have maan? As reading the guide we can not watch TV it is same that we can not please God or make him anger. If so then why the charade? Every thing is sound. When we change the sound to ultra sound we can see thing in the body. That sound is called dhun in SGGS. The question is how can we make that or listen to that dhun? At the end of mool mantar there is one word called jaap. What is that mean? It is before the next verse of japji. What is that jaap mean? Does any one knows what the Nanak was telling us to do, do the jaap of what? Ther is no waheguru here. This mantar have to blessed by the guru (gurparsad). Only doing the jaap of this naam we can hear and make that dhun, That dhun will take one to brahma then he become brahmgyani. With doing meditaion on any other naam one can attain some powers to manipulate some part of nature but can never become brahmgyani. This sant did get 6 months for your mom. But he could not get her to live for ever. He did it out of his maan you can argue that he did not wanted any money. But there some thing much more bigger then money. It is to control people to convince other people that he have the power. We can not see it because we are week and want our mom to be with us for few more month. Your mom saw the sikh bhoots. The soul has no akar. It is not solid thing. How can she saw the Sikh’s souls with open beard? By saying this we are led to believe that there are many heavens for different religions. Or it maybe for different casts as the brahmans had us believed. It is easy to become brahamgyani at the same time it is very difficult. For brahmgyani there is no enemy he teat every one same. If we look at our behavior we can know we don’t see any one who treat every one same. For us Sikhs if it don’t measure up to Sikhism then it is not true. I wonder how people lived before the Sikhism. It is pure ego that nothing can be better then Sikhism. When we have this ego how can one become brahmgyani? First find out what is true naam seeker3k [/QUOTE]
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