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Bachittar Natak
Answers To The Issues Raised By Gyani Bhag Singh Ji On The Verses Onto Tenth Master
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<blockquote data-quote="vijaydeep Singh" data-source="post: 104186" data-attributes="member: 313"><p><strong>Re: Answers to the issues raised by Gyani Bhag Singh Ji on the verses unto Tenth Mast</strong></p><p></p><p>Gurfateh</p><p> </p><p> Next topic is his opposition to Verse Jori Jeye Jug Chari Tihari.</p><p> </p><p> So First objection is that it is from Tria Charitar,while in reality it is Pakhyan Charitar(Chreacters heard by ears from sources) is the heading of all this text.So it is strange that when he gives us clraifiaction of Puranas as per Sanskrit why does not he explains that what is meant by Pakhyan.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway.Then he talks that semen of Rishi Kapil fell on earth.FRom that Rambha had prengnancy and then a girl was found from the river by King of Sindhu.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> As per him this can not happen and it is myth.So what is this.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Page 1309, Line 7</p><p> ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਮਲ ਪੁਤੁ ਮੀਨ ਬਿਆਸਾ ਤਪੁ ਤਾਪਨ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਾਵੈਗੋ ॥</p><p> ब्रहम कमल पुतु मीन बिआसा तपु तापन पूज करावैगो ॥</p><p> Barahm kamal puṯ mīn bi▫āsā ṯap ṯāpan pūj karāvaigo.</p><p> Brahma, the son of the lotus, and Vyaas, the son of the fish, practiced austere penance and were worshipped.</p><p> Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</p><p> </p><p> The whole story is there in Charitrophkhyann 108 and 109 and das will give befire summery of that also.</p><p> It is the stroy of Sassi Punnu.</p><p> </p><p> When Kapil Muni Saw the ApsaraRambha ,he had an emission of semen on ground.After his seman fall(within Apsara)she was impregnated. That(product of Prgnancy) she put in river and went to towen of Suras(a race).That was a female infant which was reared by King of Sindh with good care.Good father gave good service to lady adopted which was the product of illicit realtionship.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Person posing as Ambala Ji here defends Kapil Muni.Strange,calling him a incarnation of Vishnu and founder of Sankhya Philosophy of Six Darshan of Hindus.How can it happen to him.Strange! Das read Kala Afghan defending sister of Aurangzeb also in his Vol 10 of Vipran Ki Reet.</p><p> </p><p> Why should a Sikh defend Hindu holy men,who is exposed by his Guru?Yes a Hindu can do this.But not the Sikh.when Guru is exposing the truthfull chrecter of an Avtar of Vishnu and founder of one School.He should learn from the Guru instead of defending Hindus.Tommrow someone may Ask that How can Guru wrtie Maya Mohe Devi Deva(Demigods and demigodess are hypnotised by mammon).</p><p> </p><p> When they are married(Sassi and Punnu) this song is sung.No problem to sing it.</p><p> </p><p> Thing does not ends here.Whole stroy is not given.The first Wife of the Punnu tries with various means of tools,plans ans system to let Sassi be off from her Husband but this does not happens.So she plans and succesfully kills him.</p><p> </p><p> Sassi also dies in sorrow.</p><p> </p><p> First wife thinks to make her son the king and have immoral life.Story 108 ends here.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ ॥</p><p> सलोकु मः ३ ॥</p><p> Salok mėhlā 3.</p><p> Shalok, Third Mehl:</p><p> </p><p> ਸਤੀਆ ਏਹਿ ਨ ਆਖੀਅਨਿ ਜੋ ਮੜਿਆ ਲਗਿ ਜਲੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ॥</p><p> सतीआ एहि न आखीअनि जो मड़िआ लगि जलंन्हि ॥</p><p> Saṯī▫ā ehi na ākẖī▫an jo maṛi▫ā lag jalaʼnniĥ.</p><p> Do not call them 'satee', who burn themselves along with their husbands' corpses.</p><p> </p><p> ਨਾਨਕ ਸਤੀਆ ਜਾਣੀਅਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਜਿ ਬਿਰਹੇ ਚੋਟ ਮਰੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ॥੧॥</p><p> नानक सतीआ जाणीअन्हि जि बिरहे चोट मरंन्हि ॥१॥</p><p> Nānak saṯī▫ā jāṇī▫aniĥ jė birhe cẖot maraʼnniĥ. ||1||</p><p> O Nanak, they alone are known as 'satee', who die from the shock of separation. ||1||</p><p> Ang 787.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> At the start of Stroy 109.In the court of justice of heavan there is an upheval.</p><p> </p><p> Urbassi takes charge to avenge this unjust thing.She dress up like the young man.Demigods like Shiva,Brahma and Skanda makes various faces to see her.</p><p> </p><p> The first wife sees urbasi.Then she wants to sleep with Urbassi.Urbassi many times tells us to follow the path of Truth.She does not gives up.Then Urbassi takes flat(pocket) of coins.With the help of wax bangs it and ties it with Mayani(it is writtan as Asan,which is called Mayani also by tailers.It is the part where inner two sides of Paunchas(holes of two feets) meet each other and it is of diamond shape).It is coated with poison which kills the person on the touch.</p><p> </p><p> When that lady earns the consumption from the Urbasi(which may not be intercourse at all) the touch of poison kills her.she thinks this as intoxication of love while it is poision.</p><p> </p><p> Kala Afghan writes about sex toy in making or an intrument to kill.While it is not the body part but part of the cloath worn by Urbassi,more a type of pocket tied in a location not easyly detectalbe(one can conceal knife or pistal also in such way tied with thigh).</p><p> </p><p> So when a lady born out of wedlock(Basterd) after undergoing rearing from Good Father dies after death of her Husband and hevan takes revenge.why should not that story be read and why not such song realted to sych couple be sung ?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vijaydeep Singh, post: 104186, member: 313"] [b]Re: Answers to the issues raised by Gyani Bhag Singh Ji on the verses unto Tenth Mast[/b] Gurfateh Next topic is his opposition to Verse Jori Jeye Jug Chari Tihari. So First objection is that it is from Tria Charitar,while in reality it is Pakhyan Charitar(Chreacters heard by ears from sources) is the heading of all this text.So it is strange that when he gives us clraifiaction of Puranas as per Sanskrit why does not he explains that what is meant by Pakhyan. Anyway.Then he talks that semen of Rishi Kapil fell on earth.FRom that Rambha had prengnancy and then a girl was found from the river by King of Sindhu. As per him this can not happen and it is myth.So what is this. Page 1309, Line 7 ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਮਲ ਪੁਤੁ ਮੀਨ ਬਿਆਸਾ ਤਪੁ ਤਾਪਨ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਾਵੈਗੋ ॥ ब्रहम कमल पुतु मीन बिआसा तपु तापन पूज करावैगो ॥ Barahm kamal puṯ mīn bi▫āsā ṯap ṯāpan pūj karāvaigo. Brahma, the son of the lotus, and Vyaas, the son of the fish, practiced austere penance and were worshipped. Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok The whole story is there in Charitrophkhyann 108 and 109 and das will give befire summery of that also. It is the stroy of Sassi Punnu. When Kapil Muni Saw the ApsaraRambha ,he had an emission of semen on ground.After his seman fall(within Apsara)she was impregnated. That(product of Prgnancy) she put in river and went to towen of Suras(a race).That was a female infant which was reared by King of Sindh with good care.Good father gave good service to lady adopted which was the product of illicit realtionship. Person posing as Ambala Ji here defends Kapil Muni.Strange,calling him a incarnation of Vishnu and founder of Sankhya Philosophy of Six Darshan of Hindus.How can it happen to him.Strange! Das read Kala Afghan defending sister of Aurangzeb also in his Vol 10 of Vipran Ki Reet. Why should a Sikh defend Hindu holy men,who is exposed by his Guru?Yes a Hindu can do this.But not the Sikh.when Guru is exposing the truthfull chrecter of an Avtar of Vishnu and founder of one School.He should learn from the Guru instead of defending Hindus.Tommrow someone may Ask that How can Guru wrtie Maya Mohe Devi Deva(Demigods and demigodess are hypnotised by mammon). When they are married(Sassi and Punnu) this song is sung.No problem to sing it. Thing does not ends here.Whole stroy is not given.The first Wife of the Punnu tries with various means of tools,plans ans system to let Sassi be off from her Husband but this does not happens.So she plans and succesfully kills him. Sassi also dies in sorrow. First wife thinks to make her son the king and have immoral life.Story 108 ends here. ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ ॥ सलोकु मः ३ ॥ Salok mėhlā 3. Shalok, Third Mehl: ਸਤੀਆ ਏਹਿ ਨ ਆਖੀਅਨਿ ਜੋ ਮੜਿਆ ਲਗਿ ਜਲੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ॥ सतीआ एहि न आखीअनि जो मड़िआ लगि जलंन्हि ॥ Saṯī▫ā ehi na ākẖī▫an jo maṛi▫ā lag jalaʼnniĥ. Do not call them 'satee', who burn themselves along with their husbands' corpses. ਨਾਨਕ ਸਤੀਆ ਜਾਣੀਅਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਜਿ ਬਿਰਹੇ ਚੋਟ ਮਰੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ॥੧॥ नानक सतीआ जाणीअन्हि जि बिरहे चोट मरंन्हि ॥१॥ Nānak saṯī▫ā jāṇī▫aniĥ jė birhe cẖot maraʼnniĥ. ||1|| O Nanak, they alone are known as 'satee', who die from the shock of separation. ||1|| Ang 787. At the start of Stroy 109.In the court of justice of heavan there is an upheval. Urbassi takes charge to avenge this unjust thing.She dress up like the young man.Demigods like Shiva,Brahma and Skanda makes various faces to see her. The first wife sees urbasi.Then she wants to sleep with Urbassi.Urbassi many times tells us to follow the path of Truth.She does not gives up.Then Urbassi takes flat(pocket) of coins.With the help of wax bangs it and ties it with Mayani(it is writtan as Asan,which is called Mayani also by tailers.It is the part where inner two sides of Paunchas(holes of two feets) meet each other and it is of diamond shape).It is coated with poison which kills the person on the touch. When that lady earns the consumption from the Urbasi(which may not be intercourse at all) the touch of poison kills her.she thinks this as intoxication of love while it is poision. Kala Afghan writes about sex toy in making or an intrument to kill.While it is not the body part but part of the cloath worn by Urbassi,more a type of pocket tied in a location not easyly detectalbe(one can conceal knife or pistal also in such way tied with thigh). So when a lady born out of wedlock(Basterd) after undergoing rearing from Good Father dies after death of her Husband and hevan takes revenge.why should not that story be read and why not such song realted to sych couple be sung ? [/QUOTE]
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