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<blockquote data-quote="Mai Harinder Kaur" data-source="post: 138905" data-attributes="member: 3558"><p>When I was a child we always made a big deal of Christmas, trees - our house was huge, we usually had several, lights, the whole schmeer. Of course, it was a secular celebration, more like Anders ji "Yuletide" than than anything like the Christian celebration. (BTW, the Christmas tree is actually a remnant of "The Old Religion" that Christianity adopted.) Daddy would play Santa Claus, bellowing out his "Ho, ho, ho!" that could be heard all the way from Montreal to Toronto, I'm sure. He was the perfect Santa Claus, if you don't mind Santa being tall and light brown. And there were two big advantages, too: Both his beard and his chardi kala were real!</p><p></p><p>When I married and we moved to the farm, my husband and I kept up the tradition at our farmhouse. (We always went into Montreal for Christmas and Boxing Days, though.) That was until the Christmas our son was 6. I think that would have been 1977. One fine December day, as we were preparing to trim the tree, he stopped us dead in our tracks. "Papa ji, mata ji, are we Christians?" </p><p></p><p>"Huh? What!? You know we're Sikhs, Sandeep!" </p><p></p><p>"I thought so. It doesn't seem very nice that we celebrate the birth of their god that we don't even believe in!" </p><p></p><p>"Son, we don't celebrate it as a religious holiday. It's just a fun family time for us. The tree, the lights, the presents."</p><p></p><p>Our son was very stubborn. "It's Christ-mas. Christ - that's Jesus. Mas is mass, the Catholic church thing. Christmas. It's for Christians, not Sikhs."</p><p></p><p>He was adamant. And, of course, he was right. "But son, don't you like getting presents?"</p><p></p><p>"Sure but you guys give me presents all the time. Anyway, I'd rather be a Sikh than get silly presents."</p><p></p><p>So we stopped celebrating Christmas. We did keep making our annual trek to Montreal in the dead of winter and Sandeep never turned down any of the gifts given him. </p><p></p><p>It is, however, impossible to ignore the fact that everybody around me is celebrating (except the Jehovah's Witnesses, who don't celebrate <em>anything</em>), so I have made a short video to share with all of you.</p><p></p><p><object height="385" width="480"></p><p></p><p></p><p><embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/k_c0YR1DOp4?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="480"></object></p><p></p><p><em>An unrelated question: how old were the young Sahibzahdey? I have read 6 and 8, 7 and 9, and now 5 and 7.<img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/thinkingkudi.jpg" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thinkingkudi:" title="Thinkingkudi :thinkingkudi:" data-shortname=":thinkingkudi:" /></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mai Harinder Kaur, post: 138905, member: 3558"] When I was a child we always made a big deal of Christmas, trees - our house was huge, we usually had several, lights, the whole schmeer. Of course, it was a secular celebration, more like Anders ji "Yuletide" than than anything like the Christian celebration. (BTW, the Christmas tree is actually a remnant of "The Old Religion" that Christianity adopted.) Daddy would play Santa Claus, bellowing out his "Ho, ho, ho!" that could be heard all the way from Montreal to Toronto, I'm sure. He was the perfect Santa Claus, if you don't mind Santa being tall and light brown. And there were two big advantages, too: Both his beard and his chardi kala were real! When I married and we moved to the farm, my husband and I kept up the tradition at our farmhouse. (We always went into Montreal for Christmas and Boxing Days, though.) That was until the Christmas our son was 6. I think that would have been 1977. One fine December day, as we were preparing to trim the tree, he stopped us dead in our tracks. "Papa ji, mata ji, are we Christians?" "Huh? What!? You know we're Sikhs, Sandeep!" "I thought so. It doesn't seem very nice that we celebrate the birth of their god that we don't even believe in!" "Son, we don't celebrate it as a religious holiday. It's just a fun family time for us. The tree, the lights, the presents." Our son was very stubborn. "It's Christ-mas. Christ - that's Jesus. Mas is mass, the Catholic church thing. Christmas. It's for Christians, not Sikhs." He was adamant. And, of course, he was right. "But son, don't you like getting presents?" "Sure but you guys give me presents all the time. Anyway, I'd rather be a Sikh than get silly presents." So we stopped celebrating Christmas. We did keep making our annual trek to Montreal in the dead of winter and Sandeep never turned down any of the gifts given him. It is, however, impossible to ignore the fact that everybody around me is celebrating (except the Jehovah's Witnesses, who don't celebrate [I]anything[/I]), so I have made a short video to share with all of you. <object height="385" width="480"> <embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/k_c0YR1DOp4?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="480"></object> [I]An unrelated question: how old were the young Sahibzahdey? I have read 6 and 8, 7 and 9, and now 5 and 7.:thinkingkudi:[/I] [/QUOTE]
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