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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
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Gurbani (323-330)
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Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
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Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="rajeshm" data-source="post: 144679" data-attributes="member: 14329"><p><strong>re: A New Article in "panthic.org"</strong></p><p></p><p>1. It seems that a mixture has the best chance of succeeding. And that is what the Dasam Granth has managed to do. It includes some portions of spiritual nature whose authorship is traced by custom to Guru Gobind. But other portions are as different from this as chalk from cheese. They are materialistic appreciate the maya of the sansaar and engage with maya. But as some portions are from Guru, one can use these to fool all the people that the entire Granth belong to Guru Gobind. People are not so sophisticated to make the distincetion that some is from Guru and others are not.</p><p>This controversy will help to spread the other ideas (of Santan lineage) into Sikhism and slowly bring about a gradual change.</p><p> </p><p>2. Dasam Granth of one guru (gurugobind) is 4 times the size of Guru Granth although written by just one guru who died young and even when he was alive most of the time he was battling and organizing his sikhs against the unjust State. But this fact should not be circulated among the Sikhs. Faith of Sikhs needs to be developed to wards Dasam Granth for obvious reasons.</p><p> </p><p>3. While in Guru Granth one has ONE message of Direct Love and Worship of God without need of any intermediaries. But Dasam Granth varies so much - on the one hand one has the spiritual portions like Akal Ustat and on other hand one has other portions which are very materialistic and go against the concepts of Guru Granth like no rituals; no complications just direct route to God. But Sikhs must not realize this and they must be moved in the direction of complications and superficial controversies - otherwise they will not get re-engaged with most greatest Sanatan Dharma and then the upper caste can come in as an interpreter of scriptures and as a class which can reap benefits by serving as hotline to God. Those who can make you live a happy life by removing your bad lucks and etc type of assitance.</p><p> </p><p>4. Guru Gobind has said that Guru Manyo Granth; Guru Granth Manyo. And not Dasam Granth. In fact Dasam Granth was not even written in his lifetime but was compiled several years later. So who did the compilation and how. This compilation was never checked and reviewed by a guru again - unlike the Guru Granth.</p><p>In view of these facts any normal group would have found it difficult to conceive of the Dasam Granth as the Guiding Force or as the Guru. It might be studied as good literature maybe but other people would not have used it as THE guide. </p><p>But not the Sikhs. They are easily confused and so thanks to their confusion, one can now position the Dasam Granth as a counter to the Guru Granth and use the ambiguity to slip the Sanatan ideas into Sikhism.</p><p> </p><p>Once Sikhs become Sanatan they will enter a new world and will not even realize that they have lost the pure message of Sikihism.</p><p>Instead we will provide substantial material benefits to those who help us in making this transition.</p><p> </p><p>Thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rajeshm, post: 144679, member: 14329"] [b]re: A New Article in "panthic.org"[/b] 1. It seems that a mixture has the best chance of succeeding. And that is what the Dasam Granth has managed to do. It includes some portions of spiritual nature whose authorship is traced by custom to Guru Gobind. But other portions are as different from this as chalk from cheese. They are materialistic appreciate the maya of the sansaar and engage with maya. But as some portions are from Guru, one can use these to fool all the people that the entire Granth belong to Guru Gobind. People are not so sophisticated to make the distincetion that some is from Guru and others are not. This controversy will help to spread the other ideas (of Santan lineage) into Sikhism and slowly bring about a gradual change. 2. Dasam Granth of one guru (gurugobind) is 4 times the size of Guru Granth although written by just one guru who died young and even when he was alive most of the time he was battling and organizing his sikhs against the unjust State. But this fact should not be circulated among the Sikhs. Faith of Sikhs needs to be developed to wards Dasam Granth for obvious reasons. 3. While in Guru Granth one has ONE message of Direct Love and Worship of God without need of any intermediaries. But Dasam Granth varies so much - on the one hand one has the spiritual portions like Akal Ustat and on other hand one has other portions which are very materialistic and go against the concepts of Guru Granth like no rituals; no complications just direct route to God. But Sikhs must not realize this and they must be moved in the direction of complications and superficial controversies - otherwise they will not get re-engaged with most greatest Sanatan Dharma and then the upper caste can come in as an interpreter of scriptures and as a class which can reap benefits by serving as hotline to God. Those who can make you live a happy life by removing your bad lucks and etc type of assitance. 4. Guru Gobind has said that Guru Manyo Granth; Guru Granth Manyo. And not Dasam Granth. In fact Dasam Granth was not even written in his lifetime but was compiled several years later. So who did the compilation and how. This compilation was never checked and reviewed by a guru again - unlike the Guru Granth. In view of these facts any normal group would have found it difficult to conceive of the Dasam Granth as the Guiding Force or as the Guru. It might be studied as good literature maybe but other people would not have used it as THE guide. But not the Sikhs. They are easily confused and so thanks to their confusion, one can now position the Dasam Granth as a counter to the Guru Granth and use the ambiguity to slip the Sanatan ideas into Sikhism. Once Sikhs become Sanatan they will enter a new world and will not even realize that they have lost the pure message of Sikihism. Instead we will provide substantial material benefits to those who help us in making this transition. Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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