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<blockquote data-quote="chazSingh" data-source="post: 184760" data-attributes="member: 17409"><p><span style="color: blue">I agree, but Gurbani came from beyond the mind...the mind cannot comprehend it all nor understand it. one has to eventually climb mount Everest to experience the climb. I think we agree there...it's just the methods we seem to disagree...</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">But in this thread I clearly stated at the start to <strong>implement your own view</strong> of amrit vela ... but everyone seems have to have responded in a reflex action i.e. parroting, mindless rituals etc etc </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">you're just assuming that everyone is just mindlessly dong things...and get no results, and just assume that they think they've done their bit...</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">not everyone does that.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Yes Amrit Vela is anytime...especially when gurbani describes the state of highly spiritual souls...but for the rest of us...well for me anyway the morning hours are something else...I cannot describe it.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Anyhow...if for the 99.9% of the population who are engulfed in ego, anger, desire, greed and attachment, Guru Ji obviously felt the need to assign a name or label to such a time...otherwise why would you need to describe it?</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">it's like saying "the best time to meditate is in the daylight" when all that exists is the daylight 24 hours a day?</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Here's a shabad related to "a-thons". Please share your understanding. Ang 217. Only literal translation posted here.</p><p> </p><p>ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ ਮਾਝ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ Raag Gourree Maajh Mehalaa 5</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ Ik Oankaar Sathigur Prasaadh ||</p><p>One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਤੂੰ ਮੇਰਾ ਬਹੁ ਮਾਣੁ ਕਰਤੇ ਤੂੰ ਮੇਰਾ ਬਹੁ ਮਾਣੁ ॥ Thoon Maeraa Bahu Maan Karathae Thoon Maeraa Bahu Maan ||</p><p>I am so proud of You, O Creator; I am so proud of You.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਜੋਰਿ ਤੁਮਾਰੈ ਸੁਖਿ ਵਸਾ ਸਚੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਨੀਸਾਣੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Jor Thumaarai Sukh Vasaa Sach Sabadh Neesaan ||1|| Rehaao ||</p><p>Through Your Almighty Power, I dwell in peace. The True Word of the Shabad is my banner and insignia. ||1||Pause||</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਸਭੇ ਗਲਾ ਜਾਤੀਆ ਸੁਣਿ ਕੈ ਚੁਪ ਕੀਆ ॥ Sabhae Galaa Jaatheeaa Sun Kai Chup Keeaa ||</p><p>He hears and knows everything, but he keeps silent.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਕਦ ਹੀ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਨ ਲਧੀਆ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੜਿਆ ॥੧॥ Kadh Hee Surath N Ladhheeaa Maaeiaa Moharriaa ||1||</p><p>Bewitched by Maya, he never regains awareness. ||1||</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਦੇਇ ਬੁਝਾਰਤ ਸਾਰਤਾ ਸੇ ਅਖੀ ਡਿਠੜਿਆ ॥ Dhaee Bujhaarath Saarathaa Sae Akhee Dditharriaa ||</p><p> </p><p>The riddles and hints are given, and he sees them with his eyes.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਕੋਈ ਜਿ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਲੋਭੀਆ ਮੂਲਿ ਨ ਸੁਣੀ ਕਹਿਆ ॥੨॥ Koee J Moorakh Lobheeaa Mool N Sunee Kehiaa ||2||</p><p>But he is foolish and greedy, and he never listens to what he is told. ||2||</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਇਕਸੁ ਦੁਹੁ ਚਹੁ ਕਿਆ ਗਣੀ ਸਭ ਇਕਤੁ ਸਾਦਿ ਮੁਠੀ ॥ Eikas Dhuhu Chahu Kiaa Ganee Sabh Eikath Saadh Muthee ||</p><p>Why bother to count one, two, three, four? The whole world is defrauded by the same enticements.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਇਕੁ ਅਧੁ ਨਾਇ ਰਸੀਅੜਾ ਕਾ ਵਿਰਲੀ ਜਾਇ ਵੁਠੀ ॥੩॥ Eik Adhh Naae Raseearraa Kaa Viralee Jaae Vuthee ||3||</p><p>Hardly anyone loves the Lord's Name; how rare is that place which is in bloom. ||3||</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਭਗਤ ਸਚੇ ਦਰਿ ਸੋਹਦੇ ਅਨਦ ਕਰਹਿ ਦਿਨ ਰਾਤਿ ॥ Bhagath Sachae Dhar Sohadhae Anadh Karehi Dhin Raath |</p><p>The devotees look beautiful in the True Court; night and day, they are happy.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਰੰਗਿ ਰਤੇ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੈ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਤਿਨ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਤ ॥੪॥੧॥੧੬੯॥ Rang Rathae Paramaesarai Jan Naanak Thin Bal Jaath ||4||1||169||</p><p>They are imbued with the Love of the Transcendent Lord; servant Nanak is a sacrifice to them. ||4||1||169||</p></blockquote><p></p><p><span style="color: blue">For me anyway this describes the state of highly spiritual souls who have become one with god...Gurbani clearly describes stages of the evolution of the soul from being ego conscious and ingulfed in duality ... to a soul that have lifted the veil and realised absolute reality, the true self.</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">one the 'a' thon statement....I agree...it wasn't meant to be a 30 day 'Fix' it for people...it was just to see if there were any readers who have been wanting to do Amrit Vela and I thought maybe we can take the journey together for a short while...as I feel a true Sangat should be all about.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">but of course the journey is a lifetime <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ... we all know that</span></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="chazSingh, post: 184760, member: 17409"] [COLOR=blue]I agree, but Gurbani came from beyond the mind...the mind cannot comprehend it all nor understand it. one has to eventually climb mount Everest to experience the climb. I think we agree there...it's just the methods we seem to disagree...[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]But in this thread I clearly stated at the start to [B]implement your own view[/B] of amrit vela ... but everyone seems have to have responded in a reflex action i.e. parroting, mindless rituals etc etc [/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]you're just assuming that everyone is just mindlessly dong things...and get no results, and just assume that they think they've done their bit...[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]not everyone does that.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Yes Amrit Vela is anytime...especially when gurbani describes the state of highly spiritual souls...but for the rest of us...well for me anyway the morning hours are something else...I cannot describe it.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Anyhow...if for the 99.9% of the population who are engulfed in ego, anger, desire, greed and attachment, Guru Ji obviously felt the need to assign a name or label to such a time...otherwise why would you need to describe it?[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]it's like saying "the best time to meditate is in the daylight" when all that exists is the daylight 24 hours a day?[/COLOR] Here's a shabad related to "a-thons". Please share your understanding. Ang 217. Only literal translation posted here. ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ ਮਾਝ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ Raag Gourree Maajh Mehalaa 5 ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ Ik Oankaar Sathigur Prasaadh || One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: ਤੂੰ ਮੇਰਾ ਬਹੁ ਮਾਣੁ ਕਰਤੇ ਤੂੰ ਮੇਰਾ ਬਹੁ ਮਾਣੁ ॥ Thoon Maeraa Bahu Maan Karathae Thoon Maeraa Bahu Maan || I am so proud of You, O Creator; I am so proud of You. ਜੋਰਿ ਤੁਮਾਰੈ ਸੁਖਿ ਵਸਾ ਸਚੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਨੀਸਾਣੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Jor Thumaarai Sukh Vasaa Sach Sabadh Neesaan ||1|| Rehaao || Through Your Almighty Power, I dwell in peace. The True Word of the Shabad is my banner and insignia. ||1||Pause|| ਸਭੇ ਗਲਾ ਜਾਤੀਆ ਸੁਣਿ ਕੈ ਚੁਪ ਕੀਆ ॥ Sabhae Galaa Jaatheeaa Sun Kai Chup Keeaa || He hears and knows everything, but he keeps silent. ਕਦ ਹੀ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਨ ਲਧੀਆ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੜਿਆ ॥੧॥ Kadh Hee Surath N Ladhheeaa Maaeiaa Moharriaa ||1|| Bewitched by Maya, he never regains awareness. ||1|| ਦੇਇ ਬੁਝਾਰਤ ਸਾਰਤਾ ਸੇ ਅਖੀ ਡਿਠੜਿਆ ॥ Dhaee Bujhaarath Saarathaa Sae Akhee Dditharriaa || The riddles and hints are given, and he sees them with his eyes. ਕੋਈ ਜਿ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਲੋਭੀਆ ਮੂਲਿ ਨ ਸੁਣੀ ਕਹਿਆ ॥੨॥ Koee J Moorakh Lobheeaa Mool N Sunee Kehiaa ||2|| But he is foolish and greedy, and he never listens to what he is told. ||2|| ਇਕਸੁ ਦੁਹੁ ਚਹੁ ਕਿਆ ਗਣੀ ਸਭ ਇਕਤੁ ਸਾਦਿ ਮੁਠੀ ॥ Eikas Dhuhu Chahu Kiaa Ganee Sabh Eikath Saadh Muthee || Why bother to count one, two, three, four? The whole world is defrauded by the same enticements. ਇਕੁ ਅਧੁ ਨਾਇ ਰਸੀਅੜਾ ਕਾ ਵਿਰਲੀ ਜਾਇ ਵੁਠੀ ॥੩॥ Eik Adhh Naae Raseearraa Kaa Viralee Jaae Vuthee ||3|| Hardly anyone loves the Lord's Name; how rare is that place which is in bloom. ||3|| ਭਗਤ ਸਚੇ ਦਰਿ ਸੋਹਦੇ ਅਨਦ ਕਰਹਿ ਦਿਨ ਰਾਤਿ ॥ Bhagath Sachae Dhar Sohadhae Anadh Karehi Dhin Raath | The devotees look beautiful in the True Court; night and day, they are happy. ਰੰਗਿ ਰਤੇ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੈ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਤਿਨ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਤ ॥੪॥੧॥੧੬੯॥ Rang Rathae Paramaesarai Jan Naanak Thin Bal Jaath ||4||1||169|| They are imbued with the Love of the Transcendent Lord; servant Nanak is a sacrifice to them. ||4||1||169||[/QUOTE] [COLOR=blue]For me anyway this describes the state of highly spiritual souls who have become one with god...Gurbani clearly describes stages of the evolution of the soul from being ego conscious and ingulfed in duality ... to a soul that have lifted the veil and realised absolute reality, the true self.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]one the 'a' thon statement....I agree...it wasn't meant to be a 30 day 'Fix' it for people...it was just to see if there were any readers who have been wanting to do Amrit Vela and I thought maybe we can take the journey together for a short while...as I feel a true Sangat should be all about.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]but of course the journey is a lifetime :) ... we all know that[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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