Sign Up |  Live StatsLive Stats    Articles 38,753| Comments 189,220| Members 19,979, Newest soneric750| Online 270
Home Contact
    For best SPN experience, use Firefox Internet Browser!

                                                                   Your Banner Here!    

Click Here to Register/Sign Up Daily Hukamnama Member Blogs Downloads Website Navigation Help Fonts Tags
Sikh Philosophy Network » Sikh Philosophy Network » Interfaith Dialogues » Sufism » Rumi and the Ocean of God's Love

Rumi and the Ocean of God's Love

Our Donation Goal : Why Donate? : Donate Today! : Donate Anonymously (ਗੁਪਤ) : Our Family of Supporters
Goal this month: 300 USD, Received: 0 USD (0%)
Please Donate...

god, love, ocean, rumi
Reply Post New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 24-Jul-2010, 18:49 PM
Narayanjot Kaur's Avatar Narayanjot Kaur Narayanjot Kaur is offline
SPN Sewadaar
Enrolled: Dec 3rd, 2006
Location: Chester PA
Posts: 3,306
Narayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to behold
Narayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to behold
Adherent: Sikhism
Blog Entries: 1
Liked 6,749 Times in 3,508 Posts
    Nationality: United States
Rumi and the Ocean of God's Love

  Donate Today!   Email to Friend  Tell a Friend   Show Printable Version  Print   Contact Administraion for any Suggestions, Ideas, Feedback.  Feedback  
Rumi and the Ocean of God's Love

Register to Remove Advertisements
Rumi is justly celebrated as one of the great poets of human history. When I started reading him as an undergraduate 45 years ago, I did not know Persian and relied on the work of R. A. Nicholson, who produced the first critical edition of Rumi's 25,000-verse Mathnawi along with a complete English translation and two volumes of commentary (eight volumes in all). At that time Rumi was practically unknown outside the field of Middle East studies, so his popularity in the West is a recent phenomenon. In the Persianate world (which extends from the Balkans through Turkey, Iran, Central Asia, and the Indian subcontinent), he has been a cultural icon for centuries. Although he is now far better known in the West than he was 40 years ago, the understanding of what he is actually talking about seems to have decreased. It was not easy to plow through Nicholson, but one did learn a great deal about the religious and philosophical content of Rumi's teachings. Having breezed through one of the popular selections, one comes out feeling good.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network

Everyone recognizes that Rumi was a poet of love. This means that most people see him as an oddity in Islamic history. When we situate him in his own historical context, however, we see that he spoke for the mainstream. What made him stand out was that he got to the heart of the matter more quickly and much more enticingly than most authors. He makes his agenda explicit in the introduction to the Mathnawi: He is explaining "the roots of the roots of the roots of the religion," that is, the Islamic religion founded by the Koran and Muhammad.

Like any great scripture, the Koran presents its teachings in mythic and symbolic language susceptible to a great range of interpretation. Although the Koran does not mention love that often (about 100 times), it is easy to see that these few mentions provide the germs for an extensive literature on the intimate links between God and the human soul. In these discussions, authors sometimes cite what are said to be words of God addressed to David the Psalmist. In a typical snippet, God says, "O David, anyone who claims to love Me is a liar if night comes and he goes to sleep on Me. Does not every lover love to be secluded with his beloved?" One of these purported conversations eventually became prominent in Sufi teachings. David asked God why he created the universe. God replied, "I was a hidden treasure and I loved to be recognized, so I created the creatures that I might be recognized."

This saying puts centuries of reflection on love into a nutshell. It means that God in his absolute unity is infinitely rich, boundlessly overflowing, merciful, compassionate, loving. Moreover, "God is beautiful," as the Prophet said, "and he loves beauty." When he loves, it is always beauty that he loves. In his eternal selfhood, that beauty is precisely the Hidden Treasure, for there is no other beauty. His infinite love for beauty then gave rise to the universe, which is defined most briefly as "everything other than God." He filled that universe with beauty so that others might share in the joy of love.

But mountains and oceans, lions and eagles, no matter how beautiful they may be, have little or no capacity to recognize beauty in others. What is needed is a boundless receptivity to the infinite beauty of the Hidden Treasure, and that is what God gave to human beings when he created them "in His form," as Muhammad said, echoing Genesis. The Koran says, "He formed you, and He made your forms beautiful" (40:64). God loves human beings because of the fullness of the divine beauty that they display and their resultant ability to recognize God's beauty. God then asks, as any lover would, that they love him in return.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network

The human role in the universe is to recognize God, to love him as he should be loved, and to bring his love and beauty into the world. This anthropology underlies much of Islamic thought and is made explicit by Rumi's poetry. Its ongoing relevance becomes a little more obvious when we recall that in Islamic theology, God did not create the universe way back when, only to tinker with it once in a while (the notion of Deism). On the contrary, he is always creating the universe, which is nothing but the ongoing, ever-changing sparkle of the Hidden Treasure. God's love to be recognized is never absent from the world and our lives, and it constantly instills energy into all things.

Rumi gave a great variety of names to the human participation in God's love -- hunger, thirst, need, desire, craving, passion, fire, burning. Like many others, he identified love with the "poverty" mentioned in the Koranic verse, "O people, you are the poor toward God, and God is the rich, the praiseworthy" (35:15). Love is that empty spot in our hearts that we can never fill, because it craves the infinite riches of the Hidden Treasure.
Once upon a time, Rumi says, we were fish swimming in the ocean, unaware of the water and ourselves. The ocean wanted to be recognized, so it threw us up on dry land. We flip after this, we flop after that, pursuing an ever more elusive happiness. Is the ocean tormenting us? Well, yes. It put us here. But, the more we burn, the more intensely we will love the ocean's beauty when it calls us back.

For the story of the fish, see Chittick,

Do you agree or disagree with the writer above? Why not share your immediate thoughts with us! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views... Gurfateh!
ਜੇ ਕੋ ਮੂੰ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਕਰਤੁ ਹੈ ਤਾ ਵਣਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਣਿ ਰਤੜਾ ਨਾਰਾਇਣਾ ॥
jae ko moon oupadhaes karath hai thaa van thrin ratharraa naaraaeinaa ||
If someone is going to teach me something, let that be that the Lord is pervading the forests and fields.

Last edited by Admin Singh; 24-Jul-2010 at 20:00 PM.
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message.
Sponsored Links
   Click Here to Donate Now!
Related Topics...
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Guru Arjan Dev, I love the love of my Beloved (Gurmat Gian Group) Narayanjot Kaur Sikh Gurus 0 15-Jun-2010 23:12 PM
The Ocean of Love Astroboy Interfaith Dialogues 55 06-Oct-2008 18:13 PM
By The Love Of God's Name AmbarDhara Gurmat Vichaar 0 14-Feb-2008 06:14 AM
The Agony and Ecstasy of Divine Discontent: by Rumi Astroboy Poetry Corner 0 11-Sep-2007 06:23 AM
Sufi Poet Jallaludin Rumi and the Masnavi Neutral Singh Islam 1 19-Aug-2004 00:28 AM

Support Us!
Become a Promoter!
Gurfateh ji, you can become a SPN Promoter by Donating as little as $10 each month. With limited resources & high operational costs, your donations make it possible for us to deliver a quality website and spread the teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to serve & uplift humanity. Every contribution counts. Donate Generously. Gurfateh!
ReplyPost New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Active Discussions
Love, Marriage?
By Akasha
Yesterday 20:30 PM
9 Replies, 2,716 Views
Sikh community gets...
Yesterday 14:31 PM
0 Replies, 42 Views
Complete Shalok Mehala 9...
22-Apr-2014 22:34 PM
0 Replies, 67 Views
What is Naam?
22-Apr-2014 10:46 AM
7 Replies, 306 Views
Mere Sikhi
22-Apr-2014 10:15 AM
86 Replies, 5,443 Views
Simran Maritime Sikh...
By Akasha
22-Apr-2014 05:03 AM
0 Replies, 87 Views
UPDATED! Dr. Prabjot...
22-Apr-2014 02:39 AM
13 Replies, 892 Views
A Proposed Hair Sampling...
21-Apr-2014 18:08 PM
11 Replies, 345 Views
21-Apr-2014 11:43 AM
36 Replies, 6,107 Views
Canada allows Sikh...
21-Apr-2014 10:02 AM
3 Replies, 123 Views
Samagam... wearing...
By Akasha
20-Apr-2014 19:51 PM
5 Replies, 157 Views
Young Sikhs in Maryland...
19-Apr-2014 12:21 PM
0 Replies, 123 Views
18-Apr-2014 09:55 AM
0 Replies, 123 Views
When Guru Gobind Singh...
18-Apr-2014 00:11 AM
2 Replies, 220 Views
Adjectives to describe...
17-Apr-2014 22:49 PM
6 Replies, 176 Views
» Books You Should Read...
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 05:41 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 Copyright © 2004-2014, All Rights Reserved. Sikh Philosophy Network

Page generated in 0.25405 seconds with 34 queries