Desire vs. Want

Desire but Never ever Be In a State of Wanting
By Enoch Tan

When it comes to wealth consciousness, the most important word to be aware of is the word “want” and every word that denotes wanting. Want is lack, because wanting communicates to the universe that you do not have something, and that not having it makes you wish that you did. You can never have what you want. Wanting creates the perpetual state of wanting. As long as you are wanting it, you will keep being in vibrational harmony with the want and not the have.

When people seem to get what they want, it is because they have moved from a state of wanting to a state of receiving or having. The feeling of wanting is to bring to your awareness the fact that you are focusing on not having what you desire. Wanting is for the purpose of letting you know you are not in vibrational harmony with your desire and that it is time to shift states. Whenever you find yourself wanting something, shift from a state of wanting to a state of receiving or having.

When we focus on what we want, we send forth an energetic signal that is creative. However, that signal is not vibrationally aligned with what we say we want but instead it is aligned with “the longing” for what we want. Wanting is a descending emotion filled with longing, an intense wish for something that we feel separate from. It’s the experience of separation that prevents us from intentionally creating. As long as we feel separate from the essence of our desire, we vibrate in opposition to it.

So the key to having what you desire is to be desireless. It does not mean you do not have any desire, but it means that you are not desiring something in the sense of not having it, and wanting to have it. You can have something and yet still desire it. A desire is simply a desire, a feeling of being attracted to something. A want is different from a desire. A want is a feeling of being separated from that which you wish to have. Desire but never ever want anything.

The subtle difference in the meaning of the words “want” and “desire” results in the whole experience of having or not having that which you wish to have. Every word has a unique vibration to it which attracts conditions of similar vibration. It is your subconscious mind that creates your reality, and the words that you use will have their effect upon your subconscious mind and the reality that it creates. It’s funny that billions of people are kept away from what they want because of such a simple difference.

It is not exactly the word “want” that should be avoided, but the state by which the word produces. When a word is used in a different context, it can produce a different state. Therefore it is not the word itself but the state that is being produced that is of real importance in understanding the reality it creates. The natural state that the word “want” produces is the state of wanting. It is really the state of wanting that we should avoid rather than the word “want” itself.
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Eliminate all forms of wanting. These includes regrets about the past, wishing things were different, longing for a future expectation, worrying and throwing your consciousness into the past or into the future. Do not hold on to the past moment and do not wish you were in the next moment to come. Allow yourself to be in the present and experiencing everything in it that you desire. The best way to create the future is to intend, release it and then get back to enjoying the here and now.

If you want your relationship to be a certain way, then the key to recreating it is to be willing to never have that relationship be that which you say you want. Instead you must be willing to focus on the experience of love and fulfillment that is the essence of your true desire. This translates to sheer willingness to accept whatever is, as exactly what’s meant to be. It means being willing to let this relationship go, and to be willing to accept it exactly as it is, as perfect in and of itself, even if it never changes.

From this willingness, your thoughts soften and a greater sense of tranquility will prevail. Within this state of mind lies the energetic framework required to inspire and attract the real relationship you want, the essence of your real desire. The framework here is an intention to unconditionally love and accept your partner exactly as they are, filled with the wonder of life as one of God’s perfect Divine souls. For as you send forth real love and light, you free their inner being to return the love.

To the extend that an individual or society eliminates wanting in their language and their state of being, they will have wealth and abundance. The secret to creating what you desire is to unconditionally love and accept what is, without needing it to change. To let it go and be willing to never have it the way you desire. This is how you intend with detachment. From the state of not wanting, and by being desireless, you are energetically aligned to attract all that you truly desire in every area of your life.
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Can anyone explain how this phrase would apply in our day to day living ? Citing examples too.
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"The subtle difference in the meaning of the words “want” and “desire” results in the whole experience of having or not having that which you wish to have. Every word has a unique vibration to it which attracts conditions of similar vibration. It is your subconscious mind that creates your reality, and the words that you use will have their effect upon your subconscious mind and the reality that it creates."

Thanks

So the key to having what you desire is to be desireless. It does not mean you do not have any desire, but it means that you are not desiring something in the sense of not having it, and wanting to have it. You can have something and yet still desire it. A desire is simply a desire, a feeling of being attracted to something. A want is different from a desire. A want is a feeling of being separated from that which you wish to have. Desire but never ever want anything.

I read this quickly. All i really came to SPN to do this afternoon was respond to a PM from Begum. But then feel under the spell of the title of this thread.

I am reminded of one of those maddening puzzles given by Zen masters to novices: Does a dog have a Buddha nature?

The key to this riddle comes from understanding the meaning of "have' in Japanese. One cannot have some thing if one cannot also lose that thing. So we laugh because the idea of a dog with a Buddha nature is so ridiculous. Maybe, just maybe, a dog cannot lose his Buddha nature, because he never had a Buddha nature to lose in the first place. But wait a minute! Is that what the riddle is saying? A Buddha nature is not a thing -- to have or to lose. Now we really laugh! The problem is that question is a stupid question-- we realize.
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We were never separated from What We Desire to begin with. We only think we are. So we are not in want Just need to ask a different question.
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My humble response.

Very confusing writing as I could not get it fully!

anyway the yhing Iknow is that whether desire or wanting both happen in my mindin front of me without me doing anything in other words they are spontaneous as it appear to me so no questiopn oarises of whether to want or desire is just just happen on its own without my involvement .
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I know what i have writen does not make clear sense but this is how it is for me

Thanks

Jatinder Singh

Author: Dr. Alexandra Gayek

You're walking down the aisles of a grocery store, looking at the menu in a restaurant, walking through a food court or down a street with shops selling tempting goodies.
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What attracts you?
Do you routinely tell yourself "no, that's not good for me," or "I'd like that but it's fattening"?
Do you choose the lowest-priced item regardless of your desire?
Do you stick to a list of what you can and can't eat and drink?
Do you rebel against that same list?
What if you abandoned this restrictive, suppressive routine and let your true desire run the show?
Before you jump to the conclusion that you'd gain 20 pounds a week, or be sick from allergies or things your body wouldn't tolerate, consider this:
Is it possible that your deepest desire is for peace?
Take a long, slow breath and imagine yourself at peace. What images come to mind?
If peace were your goal, would you continue to pit the desires of your tastebuds against the rules you've been carrying around? Would you hate your body's appearance and then carry on the very actions you associate with creating that appearance?
If you were committed to peace, would you expose yourself to advertising that would create conflict between what would be loving behavior toward yourself and what would be punishment?
Here's an experiment for you. Imagine that your goal is mental, physical, and emotional peace. Imagine that your food and drink are measured in units of peace. Not flavor, not calories, not vitamins, not energy, not cholesterol, not chemicals, not dollars. Peace.
Imagine that as you consider what to buy or eat you are considering what will give you the most peace and cost the least peace.

Must-Haves and Don't-Wants for a New Relationship
By Sheila Ellison Special to Yahoo! Personals Updated: Oct 14, 2007

Knowing what you're looking for is the first step towards successful dating. Most of us have a vague idea of want we want and don't want, but few take the time and effort to put it down on paper. If you're serious about creating a successful relationship, take the time to make a "must have" and "don't want" list.
Before making your list:
Evaluate past relationships. What were the positive and negative contributions you made to the relationship? Take a look at the "type" of people you've been attracted to in the past. Open up to the idea that dating is an opportunity to challenge your old views.
We all repeat what we know. Sometimes we have an idea of the partner we want, so we make a list based on what we've experienced before. However, if those relationships haven't worked out for you, it's time to take a serious look at what you've based your "must have" and "don't want" lists on in the past.

Be willing to experiment with different types of people.






Be willing to experiment with different types of people.
Make your list:
When you make your lists, you must be very specific. It isn't going to help you if your list looks like this:
Don't want:

• Abusive personality
• Addicted
• Lazy
• Self-Centered

That list doesn't give you enough direction. The person could yell when driving (abusive), eat chocolate all day (addicted), like to spend every Sunday afternoon playing couch potato (lazy) and talk excessively about work (self-centered). Yet the specific behaviors I just mentioned might not bother you at all. So be very specific about what you don't want and the degree to which a behavior is acceptable. Same goes for what you want.
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The more specific you can be, the better able you are to identify whether the person is compatible with your needs and wants.






The more specific you can be, the better able you are to identify whether the person is compatible with your needs and wants.
The first time you make this list, write down everything that comes to your mind -- every little detail. Have fun with it. Pretend you're building a fantasy partner, the perfect match for you. Once you have this list, go through with a more serious mindset and circle the things you truly "must have" and "don't want." Make your final list from the circled items.
With list in hand:
You've done your work and know what you're going for. Good job! Now it's time to play detective. People always show their best side in the beginning. Sometimes they can fool you for months or years, so you need to pay close attention. Look at other relationships. If the person doesn't have a best friend, or any friends in his or her life from earlier times (childhood, high school, college, a past job), you may want to ask yourself why.
Watch interactions with family and strangers.

Observe how they respect themselves, their home and belongings.






Observe how they respect themselves, their home and belongings. The things on your "don't want" list may not be obvious, so you'll need to pay attention to all the ways the person you're considering lives his or her life.
Most of us know the typical list of desirable must-haves. We all want someone who is faithful, communicative, supportive, honest, successful, patient, kind, interesting and talented. We all know that is what others want, so we do our best to show these traits and portray ourselves this way. Nobody shows up to reveal a list of dark secrets -- yet we all have them, so we must become detectives and learn to pick up on the little things.
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Be committed to yourself
Stick by your list. If the person doesn't have at least 50 percent of your must-haves, don't bother continuing to date. If the person has anything on the "don't want" list that you absolutely can't live with, don't bother with another date. In the end it won't work out. Better to move on to someone better suited to you.

Begum ji,

You are on my list of most respected forum members. But I have to say something here, and know that I am laughing and frowning at the same time. So don't be cross. And I am in disagreement, but do not wish to offend.

About 17 years ago I worked with someone, a highly educated woman, who was getting nervous because she was not married at 32 and she wanted children. So she did what you suggest above. She made a list -- 10 essential characteristics in a mate. The man would have to have 7 of the 10 characteristics. I don't remember what they were, but she was certain she was applying logic and reason appropriately to a most important decision. I was totally bemused and couldn't believe what I was hearing.
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She found the man. They had two children. In less than 5 years of marriage, they were divorced. A bitter divorce. She blamed it all on the fact that he couldn't help being just like a man.

It turned out that the three characteristics that he didn't have turned out to be the most important characteristics. In my feeble world, making mistakes is part of being human. Logic can't help you out of it. Somewhere in Japj(u)i there is a verse that says this.
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Please forgive me if I offended you.

aad0002 Ji,

I'm enjoying this conversation. I just hope other forum members would join us and speak up their views as well.

That was quick!