Life After Death?

What happens when we die? what does the guru granth sahib ji say? im not sure, ive asked many family members and i have been getting mixed responses. Can anyone clarify this with me? and can you please you examples or quotes? thankssss
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The same thing that happens before birth.



Nothing.

Perhaps this links might help
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-youth/19413-life-after-death.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19413

What happens to the individual after death? | Sikhism101.com | UniversalFaith.net
What is Karma? | Sikhism101.com | UniversalFaith.net
Is there a judgement? | Sikhism101.com | UniversalFaith.net

Search in Sikhism: Reflections On Gurbani for further reading.

Death is the one thing in life we can be sure about and that is why religions have beliefs about what it means! Everything else ‘might’ happen to us: we might get married, be rich, be happy, have children, open our own business or travel the world, but the only real certainty is that we will die.

Faith and death

It is not surprising that people have always asked questions about what, if anything, happens after they die.
Although some people claim to have had ‘near-death experiences’ (NDEs), and others claim to be able to talk to the dead, or to have seen ghosts, there is no scientific proof that such experiences actually provide a glimpse into a possible afterlife. It is possible, therefore, that when people die, they simply stop living and that there is nothing beyond this life.
Ideas about what happens after death, and its connection with how life is lived on earth, is a fundamental part of all religions. The details may differ between religions, but belief in an afterlife almost always:

• helps people to make sense of life, particularly when life seems unfair or at times of suffering (their own, and others people’s)
• gives support and comfort at times of loss and bereavement
• provides a purpose to life

Sikhs believe in reincarnation. This means that a person’s soul may be reborn many times as a human or an animal. Therefore, for Sikhs, death is not the end. The Sikh sacred text, the Guru Granth Sahib, says that the body is just clothing for the soul and is discarded at death.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19413
Sikhs believe that everything that happens is Hukam – the will of Waheguru (God).
There is a divine spark which is part of Waheguru in each person and this spark or soul is taken back to join Waheguru when a person is finally released from the cycle of rebirth. Sikhs believe that there are 8,400,000 forms of life and that many souls have to travel though a number of these before they can reach Waheguru. When something dies their soul is reborn. Only humans know the difference between right and wrong and so it is only when the soul is in a human being that there is a chance of the cycle being broken.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19413
Sikhs believe in karma. This belief says that actions and the consequences of these actions decide whether a soul can be set loose from the cycle. Freedom from the cycle of rebirth is called mukti.
These things can stop a soul reaching mukti:

• hankar - pride
• kam - lust or desire
• karodh - anger
• lobh - greed
• manmukh - being self-centred instead of God-centred which is Gurmukh
• maya - illusion - looking at the world and ignoring Waheguru
• moh – being too attached to the world

Someone who manages to live without these influences will devote their life to sewa - selfless service to others. To avoid these dangers Sikhs try to follow rules of conduct:

• there is only one God – Waheguru
• worship and pray to Waheguru alone, and remember Waheguru at all times
• always work hard, and share with others
• live a truthful life
• remember that men and women are equal in the eyes of Waheguru
• the whole human race is one - distinctions of caste, colour and class are wrong
• idols, magic, omens, fasts, marks on the face and sacred threads are banned
• dress simply and modestly
• Sikh women should not wear the veil
• neither women nor men should make holes in their ears and noses
• live a married life
• put your faith in the Guru Granth Sahib
• avoid lust, anger, greed, attachment to worldly things and arrogance
• live a humble and simple life

Selok Bhagat Kabir Ji touches on the death of the ego before physical death as follows:-

ਕਬੀਰ ਜਿਸੁ ਮਰਨੇ ਤੇ ਜਗੁ ਡਰੈ ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨਿ ਆਨੰਦੁ ॥
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19413
कबीर जिसु मरने ते जगु डरै मेरे मनि आनंदु ॥
Kabīr jis marne ṯe jag darai mere man ānanḏ.
Kabeer, the world is afraid of death - that death fills my mind with bliss.

ਮਰਨੇ ਹੀ ਤੇ ਪਾਈਐ ਪੂਰਨੁ ਪਰਮਾਨੰਦੁ ॥੨੨॥
मरने ही ते पाईऐ पूरनु परमानंदु ॥२२॥
Marne hī ṯe pā▫ī▫ai pūran parmānanḏ. ||22||
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19413
It is only by death that perfect, supreme bliss is obtained. ||22||
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ਕਬੀਰ ਮਰਤਾ ਮਰਤਾ ਜਗੁ ਮੂਆ ਮਰਿ ਭੀ ਨ ਜਾਨਿਆ ਕੋਇ ॥
कबीर मरता मरता जगु मूआ मरि भी न जानिआ कोइ ॥
Kabīr marṯā marṯā jag mū▫ā mar bẖī na jāni▫ā ko▫e.
Kabeer, dying, dying, the whole world has to die, and yet, none know how to die.

ਐਸੇ ਮਰਨੇ ਜੋ ਮਰੈ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਨ ਮਰਨਾ ਹੋਇ ॥੨੯॥
ऐसे मरने जो मरै बहुरि न मरना होइ ॥२९॥
Aise marne jo marai bahur na marnā ho▫e. ||29||
Let those who die, die such a death, that they shall never have to die again. ||29||

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19413
thought this was appropriate for the subject at hand.

c h e e r s

Krishnamurti!

No one has mentioned him in my little world for more than 20 years. You are a lot younger than I am. When did you first find out about Krishnamurti? If you don't want to write it here, you could tell me on Visitor Messages. I am so curious to know. One of my closest friends was a devotee ...we lost touch. I could never understand what Krishnamurti was talking about , but nonetheless respect him.

YES that is Jiddu Krishnamurthi, a great thinker of our time.

I don’t want to hijack the thread, but I will just post it here for everyone

I am surprised how very few people know of him…it’s the same in my immediate network. An absolute shame… (maybe we should have separate thread to arouse awareness of his philosophy)

True story;
I was introduced to his works via an uncle/fate, about 1 year back, who had his book in his study/library. I just read the title, it was called “Flight of the Eagle”, it just captured my attention (I thought it was some trash literature I could waste time on…I was not expecting philosophy). So, I just laxly picked it up and started browsing through the pages and liked what little I read (I took it home with me and read it from page to page at least twice…it was a small book). I am not a ‘devotee’ (I think Mr. K wouldn’t approve of such a relationship)…but I am fond of his work. It is sometimes difficult to understand but once you get the gist of it, it does make you feel ‘grand?’/ relaxed/ informed.

The second book I read of his was “The Awakening of Intelligence” (which, by the way, is available online) as an e book on scribd.com (as are many others)...(but i hate reading on a computer screen)

Thanks to the wonders of youtube I can actually listen to him. He has very kind words and is phenomenal in relaying his thoughts (without paper)…an absolute joy to listen to. Always calms me down and his words stimulate plenty of thought. The awakening of intelligence is actually just excerpts from a discourse/lecture/sitting (if I remember correctly)….which is something that amazes me…an entire book from a live ‘session?’ of him speaking and then taking questions (And if you are familiar with his philosophy then a person comes to an understanding why he did everything in this setting).

There are some books that I did not like of his…but I won’t delve into my opinion on them here.

okey dokey, im out aad ji.

C h e e r s

Life is the begining. Death is the end. Sayonara. Adeus, Adios, Tchau.

No one becomes alive after dying. We all get recycled. Dust to dust.