Simran Experiences - "As the inner vision is awakened, one comes to know one's own home, deep within the self"

chazSingh · #1 (**permalink**) 29-May-2012, 18:10 PM

najar bhee ghar ghar thae jaaniaa ||2||
As the inner vision is awakened, one comes to know one's own home, deep within the self. ||2||
Guru Nanak Dev Ji Raag Gauree 153

Satnaam Sat Sangat Ji,
I would like to start this thread so that other sangat members can share their experiences with Meditation and Simran.
Have you been blessed with this inner vision? What do you see? how does this vision make you feel?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/38574-simran-experiences-inner-vision-awakened-one.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38574

From my own experience, Guru Ji has blessed me with this inner vision during meditiation and Simran. People say that when you are blessed with this you shouldnt tell others. I dissagree because this is what the sangat is for, to share, to help others and to uplift each other.

God Bless all.

Taranjeet singh · #2 (**permalink**) 29-May-2012, 20:23 PM

Responding to your query, it is stated that I am a beginner and can concentrate, or rather pretend myself of doing so, only for 15 minutes. There is no experience and yet It is felt that with passage of time , as the faith develops, I shall also have that is destined for me. Shall seek your guidance from time to time.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38574
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38574

Regards!

chazSingh · #3 (**permalink**) 29-May-2012, 21:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Taranjeet singh

Responding to your query, it is stated that I am a beginner and can concentrate, or rather pretend myself of doing so, only for 15 minutes. There is no experience and yet It is felt that with passage of time , as the faith develops, I shall also have that is destined for me. Shall seek your guidance from time to time.

Regards!

Satnaam Taranjeet Ji,

We're all beginners in this, and we're all friends and companions and because of forums like this, we can all come together in our search for the truth.

When we want to climb a mountain...you may not see the sumit and question whether you can make it to the top. but we may come across someone who has been a quarter of the way up...they assist us in getting to that point, then we may meet someone thats been half way up, and they also assist us, and then in turn we assist others to get half way and so on....this is power of the sangat that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji always talks about

I have not reached any destination...but just hope the sangat is open to discussing such subjects and guiding each other a long.

15 minutes is perfect

, do not feel down if you cannot concentrate for longer...it used to annoy me soo much when i tried to concentrate on the mantra 'Satnaam' or 'Waheguru' and my mind kept coming up with thoughts about money, women etc...it wouldnt let me concentrate. but just keep working at it, the mind starts to setlle eventuallyand you'll find that you'll start to enjoy longer periods. Its your 5 thieves that do not want you to setlle, they want you to be following them. they're very persistant

Oh, i also used to think i'll never get time to do simran or meditate, then i just thought that well i go to sleep every night, why dont i lie in bed and quietly do simran in my mind, eyes closed...it doesnt matter if i fell as sleep, it got me in the routine of doing simran...which helped a lot.

anyway sorry for talking so much...would be good to hear how you progress

Soul_jyot · #4 (**permalink**) 30-May-2012, 05:23 AM

Thought to ponder:

TruthSatnaam · #5 (**permalink**) 30-May-2012, 06:09 AM

Satnaam

One of the first things a Truth Seeker should learn is that we should never assess where we are as spiritual beings- we know nothing- only he is a knower (this is a pyschology of a simplistic mind).

A spiritual mind is a silenced mind- a mind without countless wonder is a mind without countless expectations and assessments of how things should be and turn out/ even feel.
If we have guessed/estimated how an experience should take shape or form- we will never recognise it for it didnt match our pre-conceived perception.

The thing is, that this path never ends. The discoveries of Truth are infinite, just like God himself- they are endless.

However, the Perfection of the Heart is within reach- a perfect heart is the heart that lives in Truth. This path is not about flying to different realms and performing white magic(siddhis), Darshans are not our aim(for they are still within image and the Truth is beyond image as described in Gurbani)-we already receive Darshans every moment- It is Him pervading all around us(& He is Us) afterall. This path is about living the Truth in each precious, gifted moment.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38574

To reach the unbreakable state (Atal Awastha) where the heart is constantly pure/perfect- we must be in complete acceptance at all time of karma with Nirvair and Nirbhoa- to be in complete acceptance of the universe and the creation, of their actions of how they live regardless of being spiritual or not- for the universe is in a state it deserves.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38574
Regardless all the downfalls in life we can still accept it all as Truth(Hukam/God)- to then never react in anger, or spite, or jealousy, envy, ridicule and disrespect.

When a soul has disregarded himself as nothing, lives at the feet of others (neechai ka neech)- and on finding the death of themselves (into true acceptance of God being their keeper)- then the soul is an unbreakable state refered to as Atal Awastha. Remember that in Truth- we have no image, our true origin is the silence of Nothing- this is what God discovered himself to be after many ages- it is a frequency beyond which maya dwellers can comprehend. Hence we always accept all as Nothing(As Truth or Sat-Satnaam).

God Bless You

Luckysingh · #6 (**permalink**) 30-May-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Taranjeet singh

Responding to your query, it is stated that I am a beginner and can concentrate, or rather pretend myself of doing so, only for 15 minutes. There is no experience and yet It is felt that with passage of time , as the faith develops, I shall also have that is destined for me. Shall seek your guidance from time to time.

Regards!

Time is not really a big issue, or it shouldn't be made as one.
I always try not to focus or pay attention to time and this way it helps.
Sometimes you can be meditating for only 5 minutes and it feels like 30 minutes and vica versa.
It comes with time, be patient though.
Don't expect anything ,just let it happen and you will be surprised.

I personally find saying 'waheguru' is easier than anything else but you can try whatever suits you or you seem more personally familiar with.

Ambarsaria · #7 (**permalink**) 30-May-2012, 09:45 AM

Bhain TruthSatnaam ji wonderful post.

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Originally Posted by TruthSatnaam

Satnaam

One of the first things a Truth Seeker should learn is that we should never assess where we are as spiritual beings- we know nothing- only he is a knower (this is a pyschology of a simplistic mind).

............

If we have guessed/estimated how an experience should take shape or form- we will never recognize it for it didn't match our pre-conceived perception.

...............

The thing is, that this path never ends. The discoveries of Truth are infinite, just like God himself- they are endless.

......................

However, the Perfection of the Heart is within reach- a perfect heart is the heart that lives in Truth. This path is not about flying to different realms and performing white magic(siddhis), Darshans are not our aim(for they are still within image and the Truth is beyond image as described in Gurbani)-we already receive Darshans every moment- It is Him pervading all around us(& He is Us) afterall. This path is about living the Truth in each precious, gifted moment.

In Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji there is a concept often referred to as "Continuously or Always Aware". It is a very fundamental teaching and guidance.

What are examples of continuously aware,

You see an animal, a bird and such and you marvel
- You make eye contact and the two souls touch each other
You interact with a person over the internet
- You get pleasant feeling, your souls touch and you generate happiness out of little effort
You do a spontaneous act of generosity or goodwill towards someone
- A spark of love flies
Even observing yourself where you are at any instance in time and recognizing that to be a unique moment as each moment is unique in life that could not be so preplanned in minute detail if we so observe

The more you experience "awe or moments there of", the more you are closer to the creator and the creation so in consonance. I find doing it for self through various methods or techniques is rather selfish but it is not for me to guide others if they so enjoy.

Quote:

ਜੋ ਕਿਸੇ ਨੂੰ ਖੁਸ਼ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਮਜਾ ਆਉਂਦਾਇਹ ਕੁਸ਼ ਹੋਰ ਹੀ ਹੈ / The joy you get making others happiness is something totally different

So taking it beyond enjoyment and making it a way of life is perhaps an equally noble or valid objective to consider.

Sat Sri Akal

chazSingh · #8 (**permalink**) 30-May-2012, 16:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TruthSatnaam

Satnaam

One of the first things a Truth Seeker should learn is that we should never assess where we are as spiritual beings- we know nothing- only he is a knower (this is a pyschology of a simplistic mind).

A spiritual mind is a silenced mind- a mind without countless wonder is a mind without countless expectations and assessments of how things should be and turn out/ even feel.
If we have guessed/estimated how an experience should take shape or form- we will never recognise it for it didnt match our pre-conceived perception.
God Bless You

TruthSatnaam Ji,

This is a very nice post.
One of the first things i started realising on this path is that the Ego should be held to one side as much as possible. That we should never think that we are the doer, or that our efforts are providing the experiences.

EVERYTHING is him, we are just the spectator. Even the thoughts or the motivation to sit and meditate or do Seva is his Grace, his Will that is doing everything.

I for one, don;t care where i am spiritually, or what realms i traverse through. As of yet i haven't felt scared or un-comfortable with what i've experienced and that I hope is the love for Guru Ji that always protects me. Always keep hold of the sounds and vibration of Waheguru and Satnaam, they'll keep you moving in the right path and safely.

My biggest blockage was to accept and believe that god is within me, and that i don't need to go anywhere but to understand that all can be experiences within. Once i got over that blockage i started to understand that God is one with me at all times and it is He that is meditating with me

This will open you up to all that is Him.

Everything is is Gurbani, both the technology and info of the spiritual path.
God bless you all on your journey.

harry haller · #9 (**permalink**) 30-May-2012, 16:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chazSingh

najar bhee ghar ghar thae jaaniaa ||2||
As the inner vision is awakened, one comes to know one's own home, deep within the self. ||2||
Guru Nanak Dev Ji Raag Gauree 153

Satnaam Sat Sangat Ji,
I would like to start this thread so that other sangat members can share their experiences with Meditation and Simran.
Have you been blessed with this inner vision? What do you see? how does this vision make you feel?

From my own experience, Guru Ji has blessed me with this inner vision during meditiation and Simran. People say that when you are blessed with this you shouldnt tell others. I dissagree because this is what the sangat is for, to share, to help others and to uplift each other.

God Bless all.

Chazji

I would actually go as far as to say that prayer, meditation, naam japping, Simran all distract from the true philosophy of Sikhism.

One should attempt to be in connection with Creator at all times, to 'set aside' time for repetition of words, divine requests, silent breathing rituals, and recitation, in my mind, only clears the white noise that plagues us all, only for it to return once these activities have ceased.

Our minds, in my opinion, need to learn, they need to absorb information, they need to be educated, only then can, slowly, this white noise subside to allow that connection to be made, permanently.

There is nothing magical or even spiritual about Sikhism in my opinion, its all quite simple, learn the truth, live the truth, share what you have, go out into society and make a difference.

This hiding away in dark rooms seems to me to be only for the self